How is your Next G performing now?

Submitted: Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 14:42
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Has anyone currently out there in marginal areas noticed any improvement, or otherwise, with their Next G, since CDMA was laid to rest on Monday. Haven't had the chance to put mine to the test yet.
Fred.
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Reply By: autosparky - Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 14:50

Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 14:50
we only live 3k's from a tower and 35ks from perth with cdma we had a service in the house now after 14months we still have no service at the house but joy oh joy i can get a service at the drive way entrance 200 metres away . 1800888888 says 3 yrs maybe to get a service that can be recieved at the house!
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Follow Up By: Member - Fred G (NSW) - Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 15:00

Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 15:00
autosparky, I'm expecting we'll be hearing many similar stories...so much for progress aye!!!
Fred.
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Follow Up By: Member - joc45 (WA) - Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 15:33

Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 15:33
Hi Autosparky,
While I accept that you may now not be getting NextG at your house, I would suggest that if you live 3km from a tower, it is probably not Telstra's, but another service provider's tower or you have a large hill blocking the tower.
Gerry
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Follow Up By: autosparky - Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 15:47

Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 15:47
it is telstra's and we live on top of the ranges and is in line of sight, its focus is to apparently supply communiction to anr and the small towship on the flat below
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Follow Up By: Member - Warfer (VIC) - Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 16:55

Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 16:55
Its all a big crock of bleep e,Where being taken for idiots imho..I also think some farmers were (lets say persuaded) to allow the Government to allow Telstra to switch off the cdma network...

I walk under a Telstra Tower (Baxter/Langwarrin as a guess) and within 20 metres of it my mobile will disconnect the call most of the time...Its always a joke with my mates!
Hang on mate i am within 20m of a tower i'll talk to you later..
And within 300m where Telstra park all there vans and I'm sure there is some sort of station there too.

More deaths will happen in certain areas because Telstra will make people believe they have all the coverage they require...

Could Telstra ever explain all the mobile cut-offs just within Suburbia alone (Melbourne),So how in the hell is the outback going to fair..Its not

Some funny stuff going on with Telstra and the Government..

I'm sure i read somwhere about a Minister wanted to make and expected to make a mobile call and guess what (NO COVERAGE)..Apparently they have now,He got them a tower..


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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Yalgoo) - Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 17:57

Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 17:57
autosparky
Do you have an LG TU 500? I have that problem with mine - i can see the perth Airport tower nearby but when in the Pistol club (a tin shed) reception goes to 1-0 bars and cant hold a call
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Follow Up By: regt1008 - Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 19:16

Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 19:16
I live 16km east of Perth and get no NextG service. However it works great in most country towns.
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Follow Up By: autosparky - Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 19:45

Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 19:45
yes i have got lgtu500 and has had all the upgrades from the net and telstra so is nearly equvalent to tu550 and syill no luck i live around the corner in the swan valley near the quarry
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Yalgoo) - Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 19:52

Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 19:52
Yep big blackspot in the middle of the outback0---------------------------- from just out of gidgiegannup they die and chirp back into life 5-6km from Toodyay
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Follow Up By: autosparky - Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 20:04

Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 20:04
its amaziing we still have to pay for the incompetance of telstra
for a service we used to have and now cant get
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Follow Up By: Member - RFLundgren (WA) - Sunday, May 04, 2008 at 10:04

Sunday, May 04, 2008 at 10:04
Im up in Perth Hills, look across to the airport. I can manage to get GSM signal from no less than 3 towers, albeit 0 - 1 bars. No 3G signal to speak of.

One of my daughters has Vodafone with full signal, but unfortunately work provides us with T mobiles, and doesnt seem too much I can do about it.

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Follow Up By: autosparky - Sunday, May 04, 2008 at 18:08

Sunday, May 04, 2008 at 18:08
all we can do is wait like they do in other 3rd world countries hahaha
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Follow Up By: pathfinder - Monday, May 05, 2008 at 16:45

Monday, May 05, 2008 at 16:45
there's your problem - get rid of the LG joke and get a Samsung. The LG is nice to look at and good intuitive functionality...shame about the reception. I can't work out how it managed to get 'blue tick' status. Swapped my LG for a Samsung and it's just great to be able to get reception everywhere my CDMA did once again...
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Follow Up By: autosparky - Monday, May 05, 2008 at 20:44

Monday, May 05, 2008 at 20:44
i will follow up on the samsung, as long as there is an in car kit available for it . thanks for the heads up
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Reply By: Top End Explorer Tours - Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 17:05

Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 17:05
I have 4 TU LG 500 phones, one in each car with external aerial, I get consistent 70 km range from any tower, since I go my 1st 2 March last year.

Couldn't be happier.

Cheers Steve.
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Follow Up By: Member - Warfer (VIC) - Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 17:42

Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 17:42
Hiya Stevo

Seems your travelling well,Yep think thats the key (External Arials).

Hey there's an idea,maybe get some (aerial's) made for head caps for when your outta the car !





Cheers



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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Yalgoo) - Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 18:04

Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 18:04
Ariel must be the key, without the TU500 can have range as little as 6km from tower and even less if inside
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Follow Up By: slave - Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 19:13

Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 19:13
We were given an arial for our LG TU500 and have found that we can get a much better reception and in some places a reception where before there there was nothing.
One example is at sea where there was nothing now calls are able to be made and recieved.

It's just a pity that they are so long and therefore cumbersome.

Mrs S
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Follow Up By: Top End Explorer Tours - Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 19:16

Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 19:16
My wife just rang to say she is running late from tour, due to a good time.

She is 120km from Jabiru and the last tower her way is 45 kms from Jabiru.

Cheers Steve.
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Reply By: Member - Davoe (Yalgoo) - Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 18:00

Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 18:00
No I have noticed no difference that was misinformation put out by telstra. For work our nearest tower was GSM and 3G only - no CDMA.
When at work i set my phone to GSM only so it can be used in my room 3G drops out too often
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Reply By: Member - AJB (VIC) - Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 18:21

Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 18:21
Try changing handsets. Telstra can and will when you persist and you will get better coverage. I had similar issues but found that one particular handset, that gets bagged on here often, was the only one that worked at home for me. Guess what. Telstra exchanged my Samsung for it no worries. So you can all either do something about it or whinge about it.
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Reply By: marq - Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 18:30

Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 18:30
Biggest problem is the crap handsets Telstra are flogging.

I had the TU500 - the reception was horrible (I had no reception and the samsung 411 had 2 bars - I did go into Telstra shop and they just said yep and walked off)

I now have the E51 Nokia and the reception is far better than the TU500 and the A411.

It's like the modems - the standard USB card with 7db antenna had worst reception than a 7.2 USB (sierra wireless) card without any antenna.

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Reply By: Member - Tim - Stratford (VIC) - Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 19:13

Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 19:13
I'll second the handset quality issue. I've just upgraded to a Motorola v3xx (pretty flash and I'll have to work out how to use it one day :-))

On a recent trip up to Tom Groggin/Pinnibar and Davies Plain I often had full strength. My offsider had his Samsung 'Blue Tick' and it didn't have reception at all. I'm sure the blue tick relates to an external aerial - but I'm not sure.

I've heard a few horror stories about the Telstra phones - and dealers - selling crumby phones to people who live in the sticks - let's face it - they have your details and address when they sign you up!




Tim
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Follow Up By: oldtrack123 - Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 21:04

Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 21:04
Hi
What can we expect from Telstra when their method of testing is to drive around in a car with an external antenna & instument readings to decide that you must then be able to get handheld reception
I suppose the moving car is their idea of mobile .
I suppose it would be to much to expect them to drive around with the so called blue tick phones without an antenna & actually check how they actually perform. before they sell them.
But they seem to have convinced the minister that we are just imagining our poor or no reception problems
I am on my 3rd phone
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Yalgoo) - Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 23:11

Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 23:11
The horror stories about the Telstra phones are true. They wont take them back they wont accept warranty and they give no loan phones when on a plan.
If your telstra phone on a plan craps out and you need it you have no other option than to buy another
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Reply By: Member - Davoe (Yalgoo) - Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 19:55

Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 19:55
My missus just bought a samsung as her 3rd LG just died (yep 3 in a year last one lasted a fortnight) i will compare my TU 500 to hers. if i see a difference i will flog my tu500 and brand new never used car set for a carton - thats all its worth.
Might look at the nokia its been getting good anecdotal reviews
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Yalgoo) - Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 21:56

Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 21:56
whoops sorry make that her 3rd zte. all have died of the same cause-wont charge
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Reply By: Member - Peter R (QLD) - Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 23:44

Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 23:44
Davoe,
Telstra do take back the zte phones now, under warranty.

Not sure if this will help but the info I got from zte was to charge up the battery from dead flat about 5 times for best performance.

I have just had my 165 for ashort while and am having no trouble with battery and am now on the 3rd recharge.

Pedro

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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Yalgoo) - Monday, May 05, 2008 at 21:13

Monday, May 05, 2008 at 21:13
Sorry mate I didnt type that for fun. We went to 3 telstra shops - none would touch it. all the did was give us the number to ring to get a bag to send it back with ----- The bag never came.
No hope of charging the battery the Fault lies in the charging plug.
No loan phone when on a plan and when your looking for work mucking about with that circus isnt an option
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Reply By: Member - AJB (VIC) - Sunday, May 04, 2008 at 08:02

Sunday, May 04, 2008 at 08:02
Another thing I cant understand is if I have "no service" I can still make "emergency calls"! If the handset, and all of my handsets have been the same, can make emergency calls when there is apprently "no service" why cant it make all calls?
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Follow Up By: Vivid Adventures - Sunday, May 04, 2008 at 08:57

Sunday, May 04, 2008 at 08:57
may be a GSM call on another carrier, or it just gives you the option, but it is only when you make a call that it will try to find one... and so it might pull the wool over your eyes.
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Yalgoo) - Sunday, May 04, 2008 at 09:46

Sunday, May 04, 2008 at 09:46
Ever actually tried this? i think you will find its an urban Myth
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Follow Up By: Vivid Adventures - Sunday, May 04, 2008 at 14:54

Sunday, May 04, 2008 at 14:54
No. Not urban myth.

NextG phones also work on GSM.

When there is no Telstra signal - NextG or GSM, the phone says "Emergency calls only". This means nothing except that if you choose to call 112 it will then try to connect to any network available... this would mean a non-Telstra GSM network, and make the call - in Australia this will get connected to the 000 network.

GSM phones will do the same if you do have not have coverage from your carrier.

The myth is that 112 will work anywhere - it only works where there is a GSM carrier providing coverage.
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Yalgoo) - Sunday, May 04, 2008 at 17:47

Sunday, May 04, 2008 at 17:47
Thats my point Andrew - If you have a telstra phone it is unlikely (but possible) another network will be the only carrier.
if you have a GSM phone it wont call emergency on the Next G network where as a next G phone is multi band and can operate on GSM (in my case better).
if there is no GSM or Next G or if you have a GSM phone but next g is available then you can call any number you like but you wont get anywhere.
Problem is some people think they can use their phone and it will connect in case of emergency anywhere - thats the urban Myth
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Follow Up By: Member - AJB (VIC) - Sunday, May 04, 2008 at 18:51

Sunday, May 04, 2008 at 18:51
Tried it one day and freaked out when the emergency operator answered the call. Had "No service" but got through. It was on my 1st Next G phone which had "no service" from inside the house but got through to the emergency operator! Perhaps it went through another providers GSM network as it would not be Telstras as that is why I went to Next G (No GSM service from Telstra at home). Never tried Optus service on GSM maybe I should! Live in East Gippsland so Telstra seem to have better coverage or at least thats what I've been told by other users of other providers.
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Follow Up By: Bware (Tweed Valley) - Sunday, May 04, 2008 at 21:54

Sunday, May 04, 2008 at 21:54
I'm with you Davoe.

Next G is supposed to be better coverage than 'normal' GSM, so if you can't get a signal with Next G how will you get a call out on 'another carrier'? And if you can, it just adds fuel to the fire that Next G isn't everything it's cracked up to be....
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Reply By: Member - Olcoolone (S.A) - Sunday, May 04, 2008 at 21:22

Sunday, May 04, 2008 at 21:22
Everyone is expecting coverage everywhere and are bitching about the bad coverage you are all getting.

Next G is still offering better performance then most mobile phone providers.

If it was that important get a Satellite phone and be happy.

There was a follow up at the top of this topic by Warfer who said there will be more deaths because people will think they have coverage......sooner people stop relying on their phones as an emergency device the better.

There are still alot of people who travel with no mobile phone at all.

A mobile phone is not and will not be an emergency device ever.

We will still be having this debate in 20 years time.

Learn to live with it and stop wingeing.


Regards Richard
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Reply By: Tony - Monday, May 05, 2008 at 06:52

Monday, May 05, 2008 at 06:52
I had good service on the top of Mt Bogong over the weekend. Nothing at all at Cleve Cole Hut though.
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