PS diesel and gas

Submitted: Sunday, May 11, 2008 at 19:26
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should have added a ps to my post
does anybody have any facts and figures yet on the diesel gas conversion yet
people who have had it donje not your brothers cousin etc

steve
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Reply By: Member - colin J (VIC) - Sunday, May 11, 2008 at 20:24

Sunday, May 11, 2008 at 20:24
Yes i've had it done.
I have a NS Pajero Auto 07 Turbo diesel. Had the conversion done in Aug. last year. Definate increase in power, car ran quieter, less diesel rattle etc. I noticed a slight improvement in economy and distance able to travel with each diesel fill.
However the NS Pajero had serious issues (not just mine but across the board) so until these were sorted out i kept the gas turned off to prove that the gas was not causing the problem. (which it was'nt) Seven months later Mitsubishi have now fixed the problem (fingers still crossed) but it cannot be gauranteed that the gas conversion is compatable with the common rail engine and the ECU unit, and will not give me problems in the future, so last week it was agreed with the installer that we remove the system which we have done, at considerable cost to me but i must have a reliable vehicle.
This was my experience and may not reflect on other models.
Hope this helps,
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Follow Up By: Member - David P (VIC) - Sunday, May 11, 2008 at 22:15

Sunday, May 11, 2008 at 22:15
Hi Col, what brand did you fit?...silverback
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Reply By: samsgoneagain - Sunday, May 11, 2008 at 20:40

Sunday, May 11, 2008 at 20:40
yeah i have some good info. i saw a truck ( proper one with big wheels , tows three trailers and large steering wheel ) and he had an lpg gas tank on it so i asked the driver if that really makes a difference and he told me - well mate before i got the lpg on i used about 1600l of diesel from mt isa to brisbane, now i use about 1200l of diesel for a similar weight in tow.... but the lpg tank takes 330l to fill and it uses a whole tank on that trip , there is hardly any noticeable difference in power. this is on a 16l 500hp truck engine. maybe a smaller engine will have more noticeabale results but to me its not worth it.
i tried to calculate it all precisely ,but it was too hard .a rough guess i calculated he was saving about 50$ a trip. and consider the price of installation ( i am guessing maybe 5000$ ? ) thats 100 trips he has to do to break even.
anyway thats all i can say.
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Follow Up By: Member - Paul S (VIC) - Sunday, May 11, 2008 at 21:14

Sunday, May 11, 2008 at 21:14
If he saves 400 litres of diesel @ $1.50 = $600.
Purchases 330 litres LP @ $0.70 = $231
Is the saving not $369/trip?

Even with an installation cost of $10,000, he would break even after 27 trips. Not to mention less carbon in oil (cleaner burn)

Cheers,
Paul

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Reply By: Member - morry H (WA) - Sunday, May 11, 2008 at 23:05

Sunday, May 11, 2008 at 23:05
hi steve i have fitted a (dgas ) system to my 1987 nissan 4.2 safari auto import in december of 2007, did a trip to bendigo and back total around 12000kls was good but low on power. (brick)nick name for truck as its shaped like one. fuel was everywhere strong winds around 3.5 ks to the liter no power 70kls per hour down to third gear , no wind or still days we got 7.5 ks to the litre 95kls per hr in overdrive came home and i fitted a (denco turbo) charger to it and i t is a pleasure to drive and still get 7.5 ks to the lire a tank of gas will go 800kls and the head winds are not so noticeable 1800 rpm doing 90 ks per hour. i am auto i just leave it in( d ) drive and before you guys scream about auto and overdrive 30 years in the game works for me so what i am saying from my expereance is that gas works with or with out turbos
ps with gas you get around 95 % diesel burn against 65% without it these figures are not set in concrete but around the mark also your injectors need to be in good condition works for me kind regards morry
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