DRIVING LIGHTS ?????????????????????????

Submitted: Saturday, May 31, 2008 at 07:28
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good morning all. thinking about putting driving lights up on roof rack of GU but not sure of which ones any suggestions? i have lightforce XGTs up front.........thanks




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Reply By: Member - John - Saturday, May 31, 2008 at 08:16

Saturday, May 31, 2008 at 08:16
Have a look at any of the HID's, brilliant light out put, I have IPF 50 watt, amazing coverage and depth. Pricey though.
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Reply By: DIO - Saturday, May 31, 2008 at 09:20

Saturday, May 31, 2008 at 09:20
OK for off-road/bush but some States will defect your vehicle as lights on roof (forward facing) are illegal. Check the ADRs
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Follow Up By: steve21 - Saturday, May 31, 2008 at 09:26

Saturday, May 31, 2008 at 09:26
Hi DIO, i have heard this before but unsure how they enforce this as there is a JEEP model with built in forward facing lights on roof rack!! maybe one rule for one and one for the poor 4x4 drivers again i guess....
cheers Steve
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Follow Up By: ben_gv3 - Saturday, May 31, 2008 at 15:15

Saturday, May 31, 2008 at 15:15
As far as i know the Jeep ones are low wattage and classified as clearance lights, hence why they can run them. I think the older X-trails have them as well.

And yes they (roof mounted driving lights) are illegal to use on-road.
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Saturday, May 31, 2008 at 11:25

Saturday, May 31, 2008 at 11:25
In Queerland they are able to be mounted but not used on road.

If you already have lightforces how much more do you want.
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Reply By: Rock Ape - Saturday, May 31, 2008 at 14:09

Saturday, May 31, 2008 at 14:09
6 dolphin torches are the go, no wiring needed just andtape them on.

If you want lights up there think about the reflection on your bonnet, temp mount one and see if you like it before spending the loot.

Have a good one
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Follow Up By: Rock Ape - Saturday, May 31, 2008 at 14:12

Saturday, May 31, 2008 at 14:12
That should have read "no wiring needed and just tape them on"

Brain doesn't work well when sober.
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Sunday, Jun 01, 2008 at 17:20

Sunday, Jun 01, 2008 at 17:20
Make sure u use the IPF tape as the Hella and Lightforce tape doesnt hold on too well and will fail in the end.

The red dolphins are far better as they are designed with roof mounting ion mind as the yellow ones are more a general porpoise light.
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Follow Up By: Rock Ape - Monday, Jun 02, 2008 at 07:34

Monday, Jun 02, 2008 at 07:34
Thanks Bonz,
I have been using the correct tape but now I know I have been using the wrong lights.
Got the red spray can out and painted them, wow! what a difference.
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Reply By: Member No 1- Saturday, May 31, 2008 at 15:54

Saturday, May 31, 2008 at 15:54
their is too much glare off the bonnet if they are mounted high atop cabin area
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Follow Up By: Member - Russnic [NZ] - Saturday, May 31, 2008 at 16:16

Saturday, May 31, 2008 at 16:16
Totally agree high mounted lights behind and above the driver are only there for the Macho image, glare and reflection off the bonnet restrict the vision especially when you are looking to place front wheels in a tight and awkward position.
Macho go for it
Practical don't waste your $
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Saturday, May 31, 2008 at 19:15

Saturday, May 31, 2008 at 19:15
Having just spent over a week in the company of 12 comp trucks "playing" in the "Outback Challenge", I can attest to the benefit of roof mounted lights. They might evoke a "look at me" factor in some envious blokes, but they sure as hell throw out a heap of light at an angle to the road that is of greater benefit than lights mounted on the bullbar. I agree that there is the potential to produce too much glare.....

1). You need them mounted far enough back so they won't light up your bonnet.... (unless you have the bonnet painted flat black for no glare)....

2). They must be wired to a separate switch (to any bullbar-mounted driving lights) as well as being wired to only be on when high beam is selected.

A number of the comp trucks had their lights mounted on a steel bar that was hinged in such a way that the lights went backwards by 90o via the use of an air-operated ram. When you switch the lights on, they turn up/forwards by 90 degrees and are in the correct position to be used. Turn them off and they revert to their horizontal position (thus making them both legal and not prone to being taken-out by a low branch.)

Most comp trucks had 4 roof mounted lights, the outer 2 being pointed slightly askew, so they light up off to the sides slightly. Of course they also had at least one light pointing directly out to the side of the vehicle and one or 2 rear facing lights as well......

I'm working out how to mount mine as we speak, I reckon 4 x Lightforce 170 (converted to HID) should just about do the trick for me......

Roachie
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Sunday, Jun 01, 2008 at 09:25

Sunday, Jun 01, 2008 at 09:25
yep but abit hard to mount rarenough towards rear on roof rack

4 hid lightforce?...hey does that THING you drive have wings?
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Reply By: Member - Olcoolone (S.A) - Saturday, May 31, 2008 at 16:53

Saturday, May 31, 2008 at 16:53
Why not convert you XGT's to HID, less load on charging system unless you want the lights on top for the "look at me factor"
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Saturday, May 31, 2008 at 19:15

Saturday, May 31, 2008 at 19:15
Having just spent over a week in the company of 12 comp trucks "playing" in the "Outback Challenge", I can attest to the benefit of roof mounted lights. They might evoke a "look at me" factor in some envious blokes, but they sure as hell throw out a heap of light at an angle to the road that is of greater benefit than lights mounted on the bullbar. I agree that there is the potential to produce too much glare.....

1). You need them mounted far enough back so they won't light up your bonnet.... (unless you have the bonnet painted flat black for no glare)....

2). They must be wired to a separate switch (to any bullbar-mounted driving lights) as well as being wired to only be on when high beam is selected.

A number of the comp trucks had their lights mounted on a steel bar that was hinged in such a way that the lights went backwards by 90o via the use of an air-operated ram. When you switch the lights on, they turn up/forwards by 90 degrees and are in the correct position to be used. Turn them off and they revert to their horizontal position (thus making them both legal and not prone to being taken-out by a low branch.)

Most comp trucks had 4 roof mounted lights, the outer 2 being pointed slightly askew, so they light up off to the sides slightly. Of course they also had at least one light pointing directly out to the side of the vehicle and one or 2 rear facing lights as well......

I'm working out how to mount mine as we speak, I reckon 4 x Lightforce 170 (converted to HID) should just about do the trick for me......

Roachie
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Sunday, Jun 01, 2008 at 17:25

Sunday, Jun 01, 2008 at 17:25
Okay, spent a bit of time in the shed today and now have the brackets and bar ready to fit the 4 Lightforce 170's. Now comes the hard part, gotta find the coin to buy 2 pairs + the 2 conversion kits.....hmmmmm; looks like bank fees might have to increase tomorrow!!!!! hahahaha
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Reply By: blown4by - Saturday, May 31, 2008 at 18:38

Saturday, May 31, 2008 at 18:38
Dunno bout the QLD rules but in WA you can only have 6 Hi beams and if mounted on the roof they must be in the forward half of the vehicle. i.e. If you have sigle h/lamps then you can have max of 4 spotties. Personally I have never had them mounted on the roof but imagine in rain or if any dust is around they would be next to useless. One analogy I heard was that it is like trying to look through a sheet of corrugated iron. I have Lightforce on one vehicle and Rally 4000's on two others and the Hella lights %rap on the Lightforce. If you are loaded$$ get Hella Predators but be sure to lock em on tight.
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Reply By: Member - BUNDY BOY (WA) - Sunday, Jun 01, 2008 at 14:38

Sunday, Jun 01, 2008 at 14:38
Hay there John......ive three sets of 50 watts up on the roofrack..ONLY for offroad uses ..as there all set on slight angles...so as to see through the bush and just of to your sides when traversing...hills at night........never use them on road ...as said above .....to much light on window and bonnet ...blinds your distance....sighting
Cheers Bundy
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Sunday, Jun 01, 2008 at 17:24

Sunday, Jun 01, 2008 at 17:24
Just had a closer gander at your rig pic there BB....mate, you've only got 14 forward-facing lights....how can you possibly see where you're going at night???? hahahahaha

Great set-up mate......

Roachie
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Follow Up By: Member - BUNDY BOY (WA) - Sunday, Jun 01, 2008 at 21:17

Sunday, Jun 01, 2008 at 21:17
hi there Roachie.......lol ...yer i know afraid of the dark am i.......lol tow sets of big ones on bull bar are highway driving only......small set below headlights are wig/wag.alternating...for work......four small round on roof ..night bush work .and rectangle on outer edge also bush work .but on separate switch ....in case i need to find a house number........yer overkill but they all have a purpose not just wank factor,,,lol


Bundy,,,(the blind )
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Reply By: kcandco - Sunday, Jun 01, 2008 at 19:52

Sunday, Jun 01, 2008 at 19:52
Hi All

I recently did a HID conversion on a set of narva fog lights. 35watt conversion kits currently going on ebay for around the $100 mark. they are easy to fit and put out a brilliant light. I set up one light 55w halogen and other 35w HID and tested. The difference is HUGE. I'm so impressed I have just ordered another set to convert my cibie oscars.

regards Kc
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