New XLT 4x4 ford Ranger crew cab

Submitted: Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 12:01
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We are looking to buy a new ford ranger and were just about to until we heard that they are having trouble with towing .Can anyone verify this as we need to upgrade the 2.8 hilux to tow our 16ft jayco poptop.What is a good price for a 80series or we can we look to find one
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Reply By: sleepy1 - Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 12:08

Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 12:08
hi Maria o,
haven't heard anyyhing myself but it is what i was looking at buying as well. will be watching to see what you dig up. good luck. don't know much about 80 series as i'm not a toyota lover.
cheers Peter.
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Reply By: Member - Warfer (VIC) - Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 13:08

Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 13:08
Hiya Maria

Could you please Specify the so called issues


Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Maria O (WA) - Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 14:06

Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 14:06
the issue is with the gear linkages. the gentlemen we spoke said something about when in fifth gear and under tow they have had teeth brake off. not sure where i think they might have ment the fyl wheel or somewhere in the gear box .they also said it was because something was shorter than it should be when in fifth gear
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Follow Up By: disco driver - Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 16:02

Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 16:02
Maria,
Just a brief question.
Were the gentlemen who told you all this stuff trying to sell you something else??

If so, take it with a large dose of salt.
If not, what is their interest in this.

The Hilux, Navara, Triton, Ford, Mazda, Rodeo type utes all have a reputed problem when towing in fifth gear.

Don't think there is much truth in it though.

They are all reasonably good at what they are designed for.

Disco.
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Follow Up By: Vivid Adventures - Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 16:18

Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 16:18
Commonly described issue with almost any vehicle... but I am yet to have a problem towing in 5th...

If you're really bothered take a read of the manual, and/or drive in 4th.
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Reply By: Member - barry F (NSW) - Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 17:12

Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 17:12
Howdy Maria, We have the Mazda BT50 twin cab ( same thing, different name) 4x2 with manual transmission & have used it to tow a 16 ft pop top Jayco.
We recently updated to an 18 Ft pop top which has a tare of 1500 Kg & have not had any problems. We tow in fifth, if circumstances permit ( not up hills, into head winds etc) We have had the vehicle just on twelve months and are very happy with it.
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Follow Up By: Member - DAZA (QLD) - Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 19:04

Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 19:04
Hi All

My son drives one for his work, which is in Local Goverment, and they
have purchased heaps of these Ford Rangers, and he reckons they
perform very well, they tow Tandem Trailers loaded with gear ect,
even on the beach, I might add most are Automatics.

Cheers
Daza
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Reply By: RussellP - Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 19:30

Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 19:30
I purchased a BT-50 (as mentioned earlier, same thing as a Ranger) a little over a month ago.

I believe that the Ranger handbook says not to tow in 5th.

However, the Mazda book makes no mention of this. I rang Mazda head office technical area. They advised that towing in 5th was ok, just don't labour it. My mechanic advised against towing in 5th. Given the gearing, you can do 100 in 4th with no problems (it's doing aroung 2500 rpm).

I tow a three horse float, all up just over 2t with horses. Great tow vehicle. More economical, faster and easier to tow with than the D22 Navara that it replaced.

I'd recommend one to anyone.

cheers
Russell
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Reply By: Rusty07 - Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 23:42

Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 23:42
Get the auto, very good tow vehicle, tows in 5th really well , if it starts to lug (up hill, wind, or need acceleration ... etc ..) just press the button & back to 4th immediately. as I said good to tow with & good to use
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Follow Up By: RussellP - Saturday, Jun 07, 2008 at 07:33

Saturday, Jun 07, 2008 at 07:33
Be mindfull that the autos are rated at 2.5t, while the manuals are 3t towing capacity.

cheers
Russell
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Reply By: Paul Grabonski. Vic - Saturday, Jun 07, 2008 at 08:41

Saturday, Jun 07, 2008 at 08:41
that is correct there is a 5th gear problem. Not only towing also loaded.
Look at the size of the gearbox and diff on the Mitsi Triton 3.2 and the Ford Ranger and see the Triton is 2x bigger.
For a tow vehicle the current Triton ML 3.2 is the best in 1T range and warranty. 5 yr warranty on everything and 10 yr warranty on drive train. If you can find a better tow vehicle compared to Triton buy it.
80 series turbo were scarce, 80 series with after market turbo is not great. Fuel consumption compared to modern common rail is woeful.
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Follow Up By: disco driver - Saturday, Jun 07, 2008 at 17:19

Saturday, Jun 07, 2008 at 17:19
Paul,

Size isn't everything.

Disco.
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Follow Up By: Member - barry F (NSW) - Saturday, Jun 07, 2008 at 18:12

Saturday, Jun 07, 2008 at 18:12
Howdy there Disco, Size does matter when its starting to shrivel up even though you haven't been swimming!! LOL & cheers
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Reply By: tonyfish*58 - Monday, Jun 09, 2008 at 15:06

Monday, Jun 09, 2008 at 15:06
Hi. I have just gone through looking at all the vehicles and in the end went for the Holden Rodeo 3ltr common rail turbo diesel that boasted a 3ton braked towing capacity. So far it has towed my large boat with ease, heaps of power, though on a hot day climbing hills the temperature tends to rise and you have to back off a bit. I went with the 4cyld so when not towing fuel consumption is affordable. No problems with 5th gear at this time, but I will now keep an ear on it. Regards Tony
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