DO NOT TRY THE FOLLOWING AT HOME.

Submitted: Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 20:23
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Ref threads: 58018 & 58067. A follow up on TONI (TO-yota & NI-ssan)
Project “TONI”, as it is now to be called is to go ahead. DO NOT TRY THE FOLLOWING AT HOME.
I spent this afternoon with my mechanic and certification engineer, and a full 1HD-FTE motor, auto g/box and transfer case assembly (destined for an 80LC) to see if it will go into the ex 3ltr ZD30 Patrol engine bay etc. IT WILL.
We will need to remove the reserve fuel tank, because the LC transfer case is 200mm offset and the tail shaft will otherwise foul the tank, this will be compensated for by a long range 145ltr main tank. We will need to build a new cross member there to carry the g/box.
We will use a new 4.5ltr petrol Nissan radiator with auto oil cooler, as well as change engine mounts to 75 Sr type, the motor’s sump will be changed to an 80 Sr (different shape, same capacity) so as to allow it to fit above the front sway bar and avoid the steering gear. As for other things such as selector linkages, these will require the console to be slightly modified so as to fit the Nissan consol, no real problem.
A new 3” exhaust system will have to be made using Toyota front end and Nissan back end.
Electrical items have been given the go ahead in consultation with our auto electrician & engineer. Various adaptor modules will be used for the Speedo, Tacho & other engine warning devices to mate them to the new EMS (Eng. Man. Sys.)
Air cond. will need to be re-hosed.
A duct to take the intake air from the Nissan snorkel and air box to the intake of the new motor will need to be made, as will the fitting of a new water cooled intercooler.
The Nissan had a tail-shaft hand brake so we will need to use just the axles and rear brakes from a petrol Patrol manual, to accommodate the hand brake.
The tail shaft will remain Nissan with an adaptor to fit it to the LC transfer case out-put shaft, this was decided because the Nissan shaft has bigger uni’s allowing the angle of off-set to be better accommodated by that shaft, and it was considered stronger. The LC transfer case will be modified to be “Part Time” 4WD.
This is now more than a theory, we know it can work, all we need is a suitable “Donor” which should not be a problem as we all know that Toyota drivers are not very good (LOL) and a wreck is sure to present it’s self very soon. Jokes aside this is the easy part.
Colin.

PS Goodbye Doug (FNQ)
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Reply By: Gramps (NSW) - Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 20:28

Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 20:28
OP,

You are a glutton for punishment. Good luck.

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Follow Up By: On Patrol - Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 20:40

Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 20:40
G'day Gramps
Your 101% right mate, but boy what a car it will be when finished!!!!
You live nearby to me mate, I will let you have a ride in it when I eventually get it back. Colin.
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 20:45

Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 20:45
Colin,

LOL that'd be good. Your SWMBO used to leave me in her wake going up the hill to the lights on Seven Hills/Old Windsor Rds.

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Follow Up By: On Patrol - Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 20:51

Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 20:51
Ha Ha Ha Gramps
So thats how the motol blew up, her racing you up the hill. I will now have words with her LOL Boy is she in for it now!!!!!
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Follow Up By: On Patrol - Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 20:52

Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 20:52
I dont know what a motol is but I meant motor
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Reply By: zigglemeister - Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 20:45

Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 20:45
Sounds fantastic,
Take lots and lots of photos for the rest of us...

Tim Z
GU 4500 Petrol/LPG
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Follow Up By: On Patrol - Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 20:49

Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 20:49
Will try to Tim.
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Reply By: Member - Hugh (WA) - Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 20:59

Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 20:59
Should be a great project. Enjoy and update us when finished.
Hugh
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Follow Up By: On Patrol - Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 21:08

Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 21:08
Thanks Hugh, will do.
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Reply By: Stephen M (NSW) - Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 21:29

Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 21:29
Hey ease it up bit there Colin (Toyota Drivers LOL) You know who will be wanting to do it next ??, drives a dark green one, You will be the ginnie pig, then he will be calling, I can here him now. But just think with that extra grunt you will be able to out do him. Can still hear him calling D........... All the best with it sounds like it will be the ultimate when all finished, Hope you find a donor. Regards Steve M
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Follow Up By: stefan P (Penrith NSW) - Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 22:18

Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 22:18
blow it out ya bum Stephen!!! LOLMine will be V8 duel fuel when needed......but with the limited kay's I am doing now it might rust out before it needs a new motor

Stefan

Was Capertee this weekend???
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Follow Up By: Trevor R (QLD) - Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 23:05

Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 23:05
Thought you were hinting at me then Steve but then I see Stef's reply....Phew!!!! I was about to start dogding big time, I'm mad but not this mad.

Love to hear more as the project comes along, only out of interest sakes of course hehehe.

Regards to all
Trevor.

PS stefan, as you can tell I found out what you were talking about in the MM.
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Follow Up By: Stephen M (NSW) - Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 23:20

Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 23:20
Hi Stefan, will know tomorrow. Col said he's had a bit of rain up there (33 mil) so Col will ring him tomorrow then he will ring me. Fingers crossed where still going. Regards Steve M
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Follow Up By: Stephen M (NSW) - Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 23:21

Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 23:21
Will let you know. Regards Steve M
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Reply By: Member - Max B (QLD) - Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 22:28

Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 22:28
Doug, We replaced a 4500 litre petrol engine in an 80 series LC with a 1HD FTE turbo diesel including an auto gearbox. It took absolute bulk time and hair raising re-design of the electrical system for the motor and gearbox....80 series and 100 series electrics don't talk together.
Good luck with the project, but you will most certainly end up in the looney bin!!!!!
Much easier to find a suitable 80/100 series LC and add a turbo if necessary.
Cheers
Max
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Reply By: motor_head - Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 23:04

Friday, Jun 06, 2008 at 23:04
Oh dear........reminds me of when i converted a lj80 suzi with a 800cc motor to a 1600cc fuel injected vitara motor, not as many modifications as your mission but not far behind either, yes you will suffer a bit of stress until its complete but after that its all fun and joy.....good luck.
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Follow Up By: Member - Matt (Perth-WA) - Saturday, Jun 07, 2008 at 13:14

Saturday, Jun 07, 2008 at 13:14
Ahh motor-head that brings back memories!!
I converted my 90 Sierra from 1.3l 8 valve to an imported swift 1.6l 16 valve running a vitara camshaft.

Wow what a fun conversion and it looked and ran like a bought one. People would look in the engine bay and say "yeah what?" You couldnt tell it wasnt the factory engine!

I think thats the key to an engine conversion... so many end up just OK and you lose allot in the conversion for a little benifit.

This thing ran like a dream...no conversion problems and afterwards I used to tow a 16 foot Quintrex runabout between Caloundra and Brissy at 110km/h on the Bruce Hwy!!
Ahh memories...might have to build another for fun!!

Matt.
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Reply By: Member -Signman - Saturday, Jun 07, 2008 at 13:32

Saturday, Jun 07, 2008 at 13:32
If ya want a hand....

I think I'm washing my hair...
Or mowing the lawn...



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Reply By: al - Saturday, Jun 07, 2008 at 14:19

Saturday, Jun 07, 2008 at 14:19
why don't you buy a more suitable instead of all this crap and heart ache
al
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Follow Up By: Dunedigger - Saturday, Jun 07, 2008 at 18:02

Saturday, Jun 07, 2008 at 18:02
I used to own a Haflinger. Motor would overheat and seize when run at the max 80 Km hour probably airflow problems which we could never fix . After 2 or 3 engine rebuilds ( under guarantee ), it decided it was time for a new water cooled engine.

We prepared a 1600 Masada Bongo van engine.

We built a bell case adapter with a billet 1" of steel and then the work started. Fly wheel adapter etc etc

Ended up putting the radiator up front where worked well. Only problem was the extra engine length meant the overhang would catch on rock ledges.


Next problem was the high revving of the engine, so I had new ratios built for the 4 drop axles.

The whole thing worked well, but would I it again . . . never . . .never


Dunedigger
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Follow Up By: On Patrol - Sunday, Jun 08, 2008 at 13:42

Sunday, Jun 08, 2008 at 13:42
Al, such as?
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Reply By: Dunedigger - Saturday, Jun 07, 2008 at 18:03

Saturday, Jun 07, 2008 at 18:03
Forgot to mention I did do it at HOME in a small semi in Drummoyne
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