Rear window stone guard

Submitted: Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 16:05
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Have been looking for a way to protect the rear window from stone chips caused by stones bouncing back off our camper trailer.

Are there any products on the market?

Has anybody tried the 3M film similar to that used to protect headlight glass?

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Reply By: Member - Mark G (NSW) - Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 16:09

Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 16:09
have you tried a stone guard on your camper and if so try pointing the stone guard down at 45 degrees to deflect the stones down under the camper.it should help.
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Follow Up By: MEMBER - Darian (SA) - Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 16:33

Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 16:33
I think its near essential to do both (protect the window glass AND use a decent stone deflector on the trailer) - on gravel roads, you will get a lot of panel / duco damage without the stone guard - with the stone guard on, it is still possible for a rogue stone to break a rear window ... this I know ! :-o).
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Reply By: Member - Lance S (VIC) - Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 16:19

Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 16:19
Cardboard with duct tape or perspex with duct tape,
both work a treat.

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Reply By: DIO - Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 16:19

Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 16:19
Common methods include: Corflu attached with velcro, empty beer cartons (flattened) attached with duct tape, thick Polystyrene sheeting covered with shade cloth attached with tapes inside tailgate, sheet of Polycarbonate attached with velcro etc etc. A bit of imagination and lateral thinking can usually solve any problems. Good luck with whatever you choose.
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Reply By: Member -Signman - Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 16:24

Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 16:24
Come over and I'll cut a piece of corflute for you..
Just did one for a bloke off to the Desert Discovery for a few months !!
He's gonna put dabs of silicone on the glass/corflute, then just scrape the silicon off the glass when finished !!
The 3M film won't work coz it's directly onto the glass- it will hold the glass together AFTER it's bleep tered..



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Reply By: Member - michael P (NSW) - Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 16:42

Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 16:42
Thanks everyone for the advice.

The front of the camper trailer is already at 45 deg but does allow the odd stone to bounce up. I've considered perspex but worried it was too heavy. Corflute was the obvious choice but was hoping for something transparent. Am also worried velcro will peel off in high temperatures.
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Follow Up By: Member - Mark G (NSW) - Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 16:51

Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 16:51
maybe the shade cloth on your stone guard is too tight,try to loosen it off a bit?
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Follow Up By: Member - Bucky (VIC) - Friday, Jun 13, 2008 at 07:11

Friday, Jun 13, 2008 at 07:11
I agree with Lance on that subject.

Our Trak Shak has a full width stone guard ( loose ), and as part of the extra protection, it has a flip over piece that goes forward and attaches to the tow vehicle, via an "occy" strap setup..
This in itself keeps all stones under the shadecloth.

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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 17:12

Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 17:12
Michael,

If you want a "one off" solution, a beer carton opened out and duct taped to the window would be OK. (unless it rains)

If you want a product that will last years and can be easily removed between trips, I can recommend Obies Outback Rear Window Saver.

Another solution is to make one yourself. If you search the forum archives, you should find reference for this, although, as I understand, the material sourced from Bunnings, is thicker and requires holes/slots in it to make it more flexible.


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Follow Up By: Member - michael P (NSW) - Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 17:31

Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 17:31
Thanks Bill, I have just sent an email off to 'Obies' to get some more info.
I tried searching the Forum archives, but couldn't seem to get a match, perhaps I am not describing it the right way.

Michael
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Reply By: Louie the fly - Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 18:00

Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 18:00
I had these ripper little clips laser cut. They slid between the window rubber and the glass. The idea was based on door weather shield brackets and they used the screws and nuts from weather shields. You all know what I mean. Well, if you get a sheet of 3mm polycarb sheet, cut it to shape and drill holes for the thingies, the sheet will sit about 6mm off the window. You can drill the sheet in a few locations and put some little clear suckers on as well if you want. That stops it from flapping around a bit. Its really easy to take off & put back, which you will need to do occasionally as it gets a bit of shyte under it.

Will not work on wind down rear windows. See my attached piccies.

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Follow Up By: Louie the fly - Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 18:14

Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 18:14
BTW, try DOTMAR EPP in your state. They stock a full range of sheet thicknesses and will cut to size. All you need to do it trim shape and drill.
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Follow Up By: Member - eerfree(QLD) - Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 19:55

Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 19:55
louie
Genuine enquiry-- are you selling the clips?

Bob
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Follow Up By: Louie the fly - Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 20:05

Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 20:05
I don't have any clips left otherwise I'd send you some. I've never thought about selling them (too damn busy) but no reason why I can't. Particularly if there is a demand for them. If I can source the plastic coated nuts from somewhere, and I think I can, I expect that a set of 12 would cost about $25 or so. I'll make some enquiries tomorrow as I need to phone some of my suppliers.

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Reply By: Member - Dave A Karratha(WA) - Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 19:13

Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 19:13
Just for something different I bought a "Towtector" (imported from the USA by an Australian company in Queensland) last week which attaches to your towing vehicle.
All the written information and the video clip suggest it might be worth a try,
So,I'm heading off to Cape York in 7 days to give it a real test.

Have a look on google, it might help .

Cheers Dave
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Reply By: bockstar1 - Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 20:50

Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 20:50
20mm EVA foam and some sticky back velcro.

Check out this bloke's setup.

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A couple of the pics show the back window, unfortunately not in any great detail.
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Reply By: Member - Matt H (SA) - Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 21:27

Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 21:27
Hi Michael,
have a look at my blog pictures. Im in the process of updating, but if you have a fibreglass canopy maybe what I had will work. It was simply a sheet of 1.2mm alloy sheet cut to size and screwed to the rear window frame of the canopy. 20,000km - no problems.
No, I couldn't see out the back, but it was full anyhow! Best part was, we collected stickers from many of the places we visited and put them on the back. Now we have a nice conversation piece to hang on the wall.

Cheers, matt
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Reply By: Member - Mark H (VIC) - Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 22:16

Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 22:16
Twice now I have used a $5 foam camping mat cut to size and stuck on with 100mph tape. I can't see out the back either because despite having gear there, I also have a reflective sheild stuck on to keep the sun off the fridge and prying eyes out too.

Cheers,

Mark.
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Reply By: brushmarx - Friday, Jun 13, 2008 at 09:08

Friday, Jun 13, 2008 at 09:08
Hi michael P
I bought some clear 3mm laserlite (perspex like stuff that also comes tinted) from Bunnings and cut it with a bandsaw, and fittied the pieces with 3M velcro dots to the windows and tail lights.
The window ones fell off after the first night.
The rear glass on the Monterey is curved, and the centre of the protecters placed strain on the edges which forced them the velcro dots off the glass.
I drilled 10mm holes in the Laserlite to about 200mm from the centre of the protectors from all 4 sided, and put saw cuts from the edge to the holes to allow flex, and this worked fine.
If your glass is flat, you' won't have this problem.
All up was about $60 and 2 hours work.
If you want rear vision, this should work, if the back of your transport is packed to the roof, corflute (Real Esatate For Sale signs) taped on work fine.
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Reply By: Jayco In The Bush - Friday, Jun 13, 2008 at 10:33

Friday, Jun 13, 2008 at 10:33
Our two rear mounted spares work for us. We get more pings on the side windows from our front tyres and thats with side steps and rails. I dont recond any remidy works its pure luck.
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Reply By: Member - John G- Friday, Jun 13, 2008 at 10:35

Friday, Jun 13, 2008 at 10:35
G'day Michael

Just a cautionary tale re the home made polycarbonate solution. We used this (secured with duct tape) for a number of trips, until last year it detached at 90kph. It could be lethal. I appreciate that velcro and clips etc may be far more secure than duct tape, but would insurance companies step up to cover damage inflicted by a home made effort? I dunno. Still, there's few pedestrians on the Birdsville Track and anyone behind should be well enough back to avoid flying objects.

We will revert to corflute or cardboard. Tried Obies but they don't produce a protector for our canopy (Carryboy)

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John
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Follow Up By: Member - michael P (NSW) - Friday, Jun 13, 2008 at 16:34

Friday, Jun 13, 2008 at 16:34
Thanks for the heads-up Jonn,it is something that really does need to be considered.
I have had a lot of good ideas from everyone on the forum, was thinking of going down the home made track, but really need something that will last for several years.
"Obies" have replied that they have one suitable for the Cruiser at less than $200, so I think I will go down that track. Should take away legal liability p[roblems as well.

Thanks again everyone
Michael
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Reply By: Member - John G- Monday, Jun 16, 2008 at 10:57

Monday, Jun 16, 2008 at 10:57
G'day again Michael

Following this thread last week I rang NRMA to check.

Thet state that their policy will only cover damage / injury caused by "professionally installed" protection, and that they need to be notified of the modification so that it can be included in the policy. Go Obie's !?

Cheers
John
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Follow Up By: Member - michael P (NSW) - Monday, Jun 16, 2008 at 17:57

Monday, Jun 16, 2008 at 17:57
Hi John,

We are about to place an order with Obies, just as well I guess as we are insured with NRMA.

I will post a new thread once we receive it to let everyone know how well it turns out.

Thanks again,
Cheers
Michael
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