60 series upgrade
Submitted: Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 16:32
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stefan P (Penrith NSW)
Afternoon all
My neighbour is car hunting for his old man, who has a very
well loved IE worn out 60 series Sahara with turbo diesel (
well over 600,000kms) no rebuild yet.
Now while a 100 series turbo seems the logical replacement, the price is a bit off putting for him. He is toying with the idea of the Prado around 04-06 turbo diesel but can't come to terms with the idea of a 4 cylinder 4WD.
So my question is what sort of rep have they got?????
IE GOD OR DOG!! LOL
Cheers Stefan
Reply By: Dave(NSW) - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 18:39
Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 18:39
You should be talking him into a 4.2 patrol hahaha.
Cheers Dave...
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Follow Up By: stefan P (Penrith NSW) - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 18:56
Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 18:56
tried to sell him my 2.8!! LOL......only wants Yota
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Reply By: Member - David P (VIC) - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 18:46
Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 18:46
Mine has the power of a big V6 and the torque of a 5L V8.
From 2.8L it seems the question is, will these high tech 4 cylinder ones last as long as the venerable 4.2 non-turbo 6's ?
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Follow Up By: stefan P (Penrith NSW) - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 18:55
Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 18:55
thats his thinking..........my six has 6xx,xxx kms will a 4 cylinder go as far??? He is an old bloke with an old school way of thinking, his son is pushing him towards the 100 series......only cause he hopes to inherit it!!! LOL
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Reply By: Saharaman (aka Geepeem) - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 18:56
Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 18:56
Stefan,
Why not consider another 60 series - he obviosly likes that model.
The old one could be kept for spare parts etc.
They are getting on in years but if you search around you can find some good ones still that have under 300K Kms on them.
Mine is immaculate consition and under 200,000 km. (but its not for sale).
A good HJ61 turbo diesel Sahara will still bring up to $14 or $15K if its top condition but depreciation is low or neglible and will probably last another 10 to 15 years if cared for.
Anyway just another option to consider.
Cheers,
Glen
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Follow Up By: stefan P (Penrith NSW) - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 19:01
Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 19:01
an engine rebuild has been considered as it got a new auto a few years back, plus has not got the cancer in the roof.
Its just as ruff as guts and I think he wants something more presentable.
I will put that to them as it makes sense
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Follow Up By: Saharaman (aka Geepeem) - Wednesday, Jun 18, 2008 at 08:35
Wednesday, Jun 18, 2008 at 08:35
Stefan,
If you go down this path my suggestion is the last of the 60 series - say 1988 or early 1989 (80series came out in 1989).
Some say these were the best of the 60 series (although they were all good robust vehicles).
I'm not sure if they changed the
suspension but my 1988 model is quite comfortable (I recall better than the earlier 1984 Sahara I had previously in my opinion). It has the "turbo" bucket seats in the Sahara as standard. This model is called HJ61. It has a 12HT diesel turbo - comes with an excellent record of reliability, power, and reasonable fuel economy. I think you will find the HJ61 Sahara a little more "presentable" than perhaps the older 60 series models (they come with dual headlights and look a little like the 80 series).
AS I said good ones are becoming hard to find without gutter rust but they are there if you keep searching - some with relatively low Kms as
well.
Cheers,
Glen
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Reply By: Stephen M (NSW) - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 20:08
Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 20:08
What about an 80 series turbo diesel in auto ?? But the later model had a bit more grunt (93 upwards I think for memory). Hard to get and still asking good money but would be a great comfy vehicle and better off road then a 100 series with IFS . Regard Steve M
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Follow Up By: stefan P (Penrith NSW) - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 20:35
Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 20:35
The money v's age thing here, still fetch big $$$$ for a good one but still getting old. He doesn't do real hard core driving, has a bush property and does need 4WD in bad weather. His sons thinking is spend the money and should be his last car as he keeps them for ages. He bought the 60 when it was one year old.
Stefan
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Follow Up By: Stephen M (NSW) - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 20:56
Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 20:56
Not sure of his exact needs but would some thing like a Nissan Xtrail do the job, cheaper on fuel (if thats an issue) can lock into 4x4 just dont have the low range or the ground clearance ?? But if just for getting through some muddy stuff might do him. Regards Steve M
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Follow Up By: stefan P (Penrith NSW) - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 21:11
Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 21:11
blue singlet wearing, beer swilling, deer shooting bloke.
don't think he would go an x-trail some how!!! LOL
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Follow Up By: Stephen M (NSW) - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 22:34
Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 22:34
Fair enough, know where your coming from LOL. Be like a trucky wearing a suit eh. Regards steve M
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Reply By: Brew69(SA) - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 20:12
Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 20:12
What about a lobotomy Then sell him a Nissan. The money he'll save will be incredible.
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Reply By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 20:47
Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 20:47
I think the Lada Niva had a 4 cylinder and it was a 4x4, Come to think of it, Nissan have a similar setup in some of their Patrols!!!
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Follow Up By: stefan P (Penrith NSW) - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 20:56
Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 20:56
with the Lada's evrything fell off around the motor but it kept going....complete reversal with the Nissan, just the motor falls out of them
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Reply By: BarryMcKenzie - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 23:00
Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 23:00
G'day, a good friend of mine had a beautiful well loved, well maintained and well used turbo 60 series that he sold in Vic last year for about 10 or 11 thou. over 400,000 kms on the clock and only a little tired, no rust in the roof gutters and heaps of accesories etc ...
He upgraded to a brand new 100 series and still regrets it, not because the 100 is a bad truck but because he is often a bit more hesitant to give it as much as the 60 in the bush as the 60 already had scratches etc and he didn't pay 70 grand for the 60 either....
He had rebuilt the g'box, reset the leaves, rear diff rebuilt etc etc the list goes on and was set to rebuild the motor when it needed and he also knew what it was capable of and the work he had done, wishes now that he had kept the 60 and had the donk rebuilt, most of all I think he misses it...
Like a previous post said, maybe try another 60 or an 80....or yes an earlier Patrol... Cheers
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