GME TX 4200 fault
Submitted: Saturday, Jun 21, 2008 at 14:13
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Sir Kev & Darkie
I have a GME TX4200 in Darkie and last weekend I relocated it from the transmission tunnel (along side the passengers right leg) up to the space left over from where the double din factory radio was.
I now have a fault in the system somewhere.
I can recieve signals but am unable to transmitt. I just pulled the centre of the dash apart again to check the connections for the antenna and power feed and earth and all are OK.
When I depress the switch on the mic to talk other radios get a signal which cuts out straight away, could this mean that the mic is RS.
I am now trying to locate someone with a GME radio to check if it is the mic but does anyone else have any ideas as to what else it could be.
It was working fine before I moved it last weekend.
Cheers Sir Kev
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Reply By: Dave(NSW) - Saturday, Jun 21, 2008 at 15:54
Saturday, Jun 21, 2008 at 15:54
Kev,
Check to see you haven't pushed a button and put it onto silent.
Cheers Dave...
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Follow Up By: Member - Mark G (NSW) - Saturday, Jun 21, 2008 at 16:03
Saturday, Jun 21, 2008 at 16:03
sounds silly but check the TO CALL button isnt pushed in.
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Follow Up By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Saturday, Jun 21, 2008 at 16:35
Saturday, Jun 21, 2008 at 16:35
Checked the queit mode and to call button and all is normal.
Cheers Kev
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Reply By: MickeyJ - Saturday, Jun 21, 2008 at 15:58
Saturday, Jun 21, 2008 at 15:58
Check you have enough power, big enough power cabling, and battery not low. Have seen the same thing when aux battery was low, and the engine was not running.
Cheers
Mickey
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Follow Up By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Saturday, Jun 21, 2008 at 16:14
Saturday, Jun 21, 2008 at 16:14
All the cabling is the same I just re routed it. It is hard wired to the main battery at the moment and does not work when vehicle is running either.
Cheers Kev
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Reply By: Stu & "Bob" - Saturday, Jun 21, 2008 at 18:17
Saturday, Jun 21, 2008 at 18:17
Kev,
You may have damaged your co-ax during the shift.
Easy to check with a multimeter. I would suggest that the centre wire in the co-ax is broken at the PL259 connector.
Check with a multimeter to see if you have continuity between the centre pin on the PL259, and the antenna.
HTH
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Follow Up By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Saturday, Jun 21, 2008 at 18:35
Saturday, Jun 21, 2008 at 18:35
I think you may be right Stu,
I'll pull the dash centre apart in the AM and redo the connector.
Here is to hoping that that fixes it. The change of mics didn't help, I just walked the neighbourhood to find on LOL most had either Doug's favourite (Unidens ;) or Icoms but I eventually found one.
Cheers Kev
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Reply By: Member - Nev (TAS) - Saturday, Jun 21, 2008 at 18:20
Saturday, Jun 21, 2008 at 18:20
Hi there Sir Kev,
as you are a Queenslander we should ask the obvious, "Is it turned on?"
lol
Seriously though my Uniden has pooped itself and for some reason now I receive on one channel and seem to transmit on another.
Something needs fixing in it.
Didn't bend a pin in the mic plug or push one out did you when you reconnected it?
Rgds
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Follow Up By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Saturday, Jun 21, 2008 at 18:37
Saturday, Jun 21, 2008 at 18:37
Nev,
It sounds like you are on Duplex ;)
I didn't remove the mic when I moved it so I don't think it was that.
Cheers Kev
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Follow Up By: Member - Nev (TAS) - Saturday, Jun 21, 2008 at 18:44
Saturday, Jun 21, 2008 at 18:44
Hi Sir Kev,
According to the guru down the road the internal frequency setup has pooped itself. It may force me to head down the HF path now, that is after I get enough money after buying new tyres.
Thanks for the suggestion though.
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Reply By: Member - Craig M (QLD) - Saturday, Jun 21, 2008 at 18:43
Saturday, Jun 21, 2008 at 18:43
Sounds like a microphone cable/PTT switch fault. Have enjoyed the multiple uninstall game myself many times searching for a hidden fault like this.
Maybe check the continuity of the coax cable from centre of plug to antenna base and also check that the centre conductor is not shorted to the shield (or earth)
In the olden days of 27mhz Cretins Band, you would be alerted of an antenna short or open circuit by a spectacular display of sparks and smoke as the final transmit stage went to CB heaven. I believe that modern technology has aleviated this however and simply will not work if there is a fault in the antenna system.
Craig
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Follow Up By: Member - Craig M (QLD) - Saturday, Jun 21, 2008 at 18:46
Saturday, Jun 21, 2008 at 18:46
Bugger, either I can't read or can't type fast enough.
Sorry about the duplicate advice....maybe great minds think alike??
Damn the electric computer!
Craig
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Follow Up By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Saturday, Jun 21, 2008 at 18:49
Saturday, Jun 21, 2008 at 18:49
haha
Thanks anyway Craig
Cheers Kev
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Reply By: geocacher (djcache) - Sunday, Jun 22, 2008 at 00:57
Sunday, Jun 22, 2008 at 00:57
Dry joints on GME mic PTT switches are fairly common. I've fixed quite a few - including one at
Well 15 on the Canning for a very grateful bloke in an adjacent
camp who'd only been able to listen to his mate for 2 days on a brand new radio but not talk to him.
There's a design fault in which the switch pins are also the mechanical security for the PTT switch to the board, as they don't solder the location pins on the switch housing to a pad which means they aren't mechanically anchored and all the PTT switch use fatigues the solder joints.
It's also amazing how often these faults will reveal themselves coincidently when you have done something else. They are also intermittent often making them harder to track down.
But you said you have changed the mic so it's not so likely to be the cause.
Good luck with the hunt. Are you receiving signals from distant sources or just local stuff like maybe a hand held you are using to test? If the coax has a short or the connection is separated in the plug you won't receive from distant sources.
Does the display disappear when you transmit - which may indicate a higher than acceptable resistance where you sourced your power from? This can manifest as having power while at near zero load - ie in Rx mode - but dropping voltage across a bad connection when transmitting. This can occur when tension on the supply wire from it either only just reaching or being cable tied in too tight reduces spring pressure in your in line glass fuse holder too.
Dave
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