Make roads safer - report illegal pedestrians

ok i see where ya are comin' from now lets get started on roundabouts!!!lol

What about Roundabouts and Crossings together?
You had to mention roundabouts didn't you? ;--O
In Grafton at the CNR of Fitzroy and Prince St the roundabout has three crossing on it.
It's a Nightmare on Thursdays, actually anytime really.
The whole roundabout will shut down because people just keep on walking onto the crossings.
Oh, and if you travel through Byron, just watch people, whole families walk out from the kerb and expect you to stop just ten yards from the crossing. I grew up in Byron and it's disappointing me to see the rubbish that walks the streets these days.
I really don't want to get started because I haven't got my soap box out yet.
Rarely do you get a pedestrian that knows their rules and waves you through. :-)
In having said that, the majority of road users do the right thing.
I guess it's just the morons that stand out in a crowd.

Jon

I think you will find that a vehicle has to give way to a pedestrian at a ped. crossing. It seems your pet hate came about from you ignoring the road rules. Don't you hate it when that happens.

See here
http://www.legislation.qld.gov.au/LEGISLTN/CURRENT/T/TrantOpRURR99.pdf

section 81

81 Giving way at a pedestrian crossing
(1) A driver approaching a pedestrian crossing must drive at a
speed at which the driver can, if necessary, stop safely before
the crossing.
Maximum penalty—20 penalty units.
(2) A driver must give way to any pedestrian on a pedestrian
crossing.
Maximum penalty—20 penalty units.


As you can see there is nothing about a pedestrian having to stop at the kerb and wait. There is however mention of drivers driving at a speed at which they can stop, if necessary.

:)

Hi Robak,
Soapbox out ;-)
The Rules you mentioned are the same as the RTA's rules on a pedestrian Crossings, and that I don't have a problem with. http://ols2.rta.nsw.gov.au/ebus/docs/rescat/pdf/7/898/45094455pedcrosaprl2008.pdf
• Give way to pedestrians if there is any danger of
colliding with them.
• Drive at a speed at which you can stop safely before
the crossing.
As of the 15th of July 08 the rules change in NSW to the same as you've stated. There is no reference to the old rules on the RTA web site any more. Believe me when I say the rules use to be as I mentioned earlier. I chased this up when I was trying to get a School pedestrian crossing at our local primary school and to have the 40km zone incorporate our local Preschool. It looks like they’ve taken them down from their site.
The old rules stated that a pedestrian was not to impede a vehicle all ready on a crossing. A pedestrian is to stop and wait for traffic to stop before proceeding across. How much simpler could it of been?
They have changed to rules because mindless sheep with no idea about self preservation where getting injured or killed as of a result of their own stupidity. The law is an Ass.
What I have a problem with is pedestrians 1) Standing on the kerb with no intent of crossing, eg; their back to traffic, talking to another pedestrian then turning straight out on to the crossing without a care in the world. 2) kids riding bikes across them and electric scooters zipping across. 3) people running along a footpath and darting out across the crossing. 4) People stopping and having a chat on the crossing. What has made vision more difficult is councils growing vegetation on these areas, just as they have on roundabouts.
May I add I do slow down at all crossings because the unpredictable can happen and does.
Now can I please put my soapbox away? ;-)

I have no problem with calls for cyclists to follow the road rules (100%), but they are legitimate road users and many are tax payers. Road infrastructure is paid for by all tax payers; registration fees hardly cover the cost of administrating licensing and registration let alone build any roads.

We ought to be careful calling for banning of cyclists on the basis that they ‘don’t contribute’ towards road funding. Maybe those that don’t use four wheel drive tracks/roads (2 wheel drives) could legitimately suggest a levy on 4WDs for the upkeep of four wheel drive roads/tracks. Where would it stop??

you can be any age & dont need to be tested on australian road laws & grab any old bike & hit the road that should not be legitimate you cant do it in a car!

And here was me thinking that the more cyclists, the less pollution....

Pjd

Perhaps cyclists should be tested for road rules and required to show evidence of that. None the less they are still subject to the rules of the road when they are cycling are roads. The fact that the authorities choose not to enforce it is a matter for them to explain.

Again, we ought to be careful when questioning the legitimacy of other roads users as there are many in our community who regularly question the legitimacy of large four wheel drives (with bullbars) cruising our suburban streets. Give them the choice between cyclists and four wheel drives and many may chose the former for our suburban streets.

As a group (I’m generalizing and not directing this at you) we are very vocal when others question our ‘right’ to drive our vehicles where we like, yet we seem to be quick to dismiss the rights of others.

Off my soapbox now, and I certainly respect your view on the matter…….:)

Landy this is were the problems starts. "he fact that the authorities choose not to enforce"
Part of this is there is not enough police, and they are to busy tied up with paper work. I have witnessed police drive past a group of kids without helmets talking on the mobile phones whilst riding down the footpath of the main street. Ok in the Coppers defense they might of had a more important issue to deal with at time. The fact is that they're not enforcing the law.
Just recently in Yamba the Coppers where giving out awards to kids for riding the bikes safely, here's a thought. "lets not kick your backside because you were doing the right thing'.
Some one mentioned earlier licenses for cyclists.
The coppers can't enforce the law now how on earth are they going to enforce licenses for cyclists?
Do they still have the coppers come around the Primary Schools and have a rider awareness days? Were the kids bring their bikes and helmets and they are told what is expected of them as road users? I guess they don't have the time or resources for that any more.