mud tyres-help?

Submitted: Sunday, Jun 29, 2008 at 19:01
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Hi All-
I need some advice as to which mud tyres to purchase. Currently have cooper st's well worn 5mm tread depth(71,000k).
Am looking at Stt,s 285-75 16 -what would you recommend. I did not like going down a muddy descent slightly sideways due to lack of grip. Vehicle is landcruiser 75 tray.
Cheers a
Andre
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Reply By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Sunday, Jun 29, 2008 at 19:11

Sunday, Jun 29, 2008 at 19:11
The "down a muddy descent slightly sideways" didn't have anything to do with using "well worn ST's, does it??

I would only go the Mud tyres only if it was completely necessary.

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Reply By: Bonz (Vic) - Sunday, Jun 29, 2008 at 19:39

Sunday, Jun 29, 2008 at 19:39
Andre you'll find the STT's both grippier and quieter on the road too, good choice
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Reply By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Kath - Sunday, Jun 29, 2008 at 19:58

Sunday, Jun 29, 2008 at 19:58
Andre, have just put on Maxxis Bighorns Kath and they are quieter than STT and cheaper too. I don't know how they will wear of course. Moses still has the STTs on him so I can compare.
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Follow Up By: stefan P (Penrith NSW) - Sunday, Jun 29, 2008 at 21:38

Sunday, Jun 29, 2008 at 21:38
Got the maxxis Bighorns as well great tyre for the price, very grippy in mud.....but will be lucky if I see 55000....60000 kms based on current wear rate. Have put 30000 on them so far

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Reply By: briann532 - Sunday, Jun 29, 2008 at 20:48

Sunday, Jun 29, 2008 at 20:48
Members in our club have tried and tested most over the last 10 years. Majority stick to BFG muds, while a few prefer Coopers.

Ive tried most of them personally and always reccomend BFG's
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Reply By: StormyKnight - Sunday, Jun 29, 2008 at 21:34

Sunday, Jun 29, 2008 at 21:34
I also recommend the BFG MT's.

They are much stiffer in the wall that the ST's I had on the car previously. The ST's also suffered from chips from relatively normal fire trails, the BFG's are much better in this respect.

Current BFG's are @ 60,000km & have about 6-7mm remaining (Started at 15mm [19/32 inch]) on 90 series Prado which does 95% of km on bitumen & just the 4 tyres rotated every 5000km.

The STTs are apparently better than the ST's so they may be OK too. Many people also recommend the MTR's but haven't had anyone confirm mileage yet.

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Reply By: P7OFFROAD Accredited Driver Training - Sunday, Jun 29, 2008 at 21:37

Sunday, Jun 29, 2008 at 21:37
I'll chuck Bridgestone 673s into the mix, I've always found them reliable.

Many customers are appearing with Mickey Thompsons and they have proven quite effective.
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Follow Up By: qubert - Sunday, Jun 29, 2008 at 21:46

Sunday, Jun 29, 2008 at 21:46
tried most. bfg muds the bestist
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Follow Up By: Member - Warfer (VIC) - Sunday, Jun 29, 2008 at 22:20

Sunday, Jun 29, 2008 at 22:20
Many customers are appearing with Mickey Thompsons and they have proven quite effective.


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Reply By: kale - Sunday, Jun 29, 2008 at 22:17

Sunday, Jun 29, 2008 at 22:17
have run st's and am currently running stt, advise if you have been happy with st stay with them, stt throw a lot of mud and stones. stt has better sidewall, 3 plies, 2 are crossed, giving stronger sidewall than bfg. ST is actually better than muds on side slope due to squarer edge and blocks stop mud escaping. If your t/back is lightly laden you will need to run fairly low pressures in mud with 285s, probably in low 20s on rear to stop sideways drift. Check out Cooper site more info. Sidewalls on other brands mentioned do not compare with stt. I operate professionally offroad.
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Sunday, Jun 29, 2008 at 22:54

Sunday, Jun 29, 2008 at 22:54
"Sidewalls on other brands mentioned do not compare with stt"
There are plenty of other tyres with tougher sidewalls. MTR's & Procomps to start with, not that that is the only feature a mud tyre needs. A chip resistant tread compound would be good too ;-)
Cheers Craig.......
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Reply By: tommytom13703 - Sunday, Jun 29, 2008 at 23:26

Sunday, Jun 29, 2008 at 23:26
Andre, Think of the amount of time you will be in the mud, then work out how much time you will be on the black top. Muddys usually handle no where as good as a set of good A/T tyres and there are some aggressive A/Ts out there that are equal to the challenge. If you are doing lots of bitumen driving then you may as well chuck the money out the window. I run the Mickey T FC2 and i find they are agressive enough to handle many muddy situations as they have great side lugs , a nice open tread pattern, and are covered for 80,000ks. Do your research before committing you cash, call some of your tyre retailers, "Not Joes garage" or call your local 4wd association and talk to them. 4wding is an expensive habit and every dollar saved can go in the tank to get you to that next track far far away.


Have fun and be safe.

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Follow Up By: Krakka - Monday, Jun 30, 2008 at 05:15

Monday, Jun 30, 2008 at 05:15
NO A/T tyre would be equal to a mud tyre, What are the T FC2 covered for 80,000ks for? Wear and tear, replacement?
Cheers Krakka
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Reply By: Mr Pointyhead - Monday, Jun 30, 2008 at 08:27

Monday, Jun 30, 2008 at 08:27
Don't forget the BFG Mud Terrains are in the process of migrating to the KM2 tread pattern. The remaining sizes are supposed to be released in the US around September and here shortly afterr. The KM2's are supposedly a better all-round (hehe) tyre than the current KM1 M/Ts
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Reply By: asbi - Monday, Jun 30, 2008 at 09:06

Monday, Jun 30, 2008 at 09:06
Thank you all for comments and advice, I certainly have a bit of thinking to do regarding my tyre choice- will advise which tyre I choose.
Cheers Andre
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Reply By: Member - Fourplayfull - Monday, Jun 30, 2008 at 16:23

Monday, Jun 30, 2008 at 16:23
Had a good run out of the BFG muds but after much no track offroading they were too soft in the walls - easily staked .
Now using Toyo open country muds 315 75 16's - very solid tyre with no more noise than the BFG's .
OK in sand , towed c/t thru Madigan line etc.
Done about 12000km's so far without any probs .

Cheers John
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Follow Up By: Willem - Monday, Jun 30, 2008 at 16:59

Monday, Jun 30, 2008 at 16:59
Yeah but how many stakes???? C'mon fess up!!!!! Hahahahaha




Cheers (thought you had left for FNQ already)
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Reply By: Member - Fourplayfull - Tuesday, Jul 01, 2008 at 08:04

Tuesday, Jul 01, 2008 at 08:04
Yes Willem , just leaving Hughenden now - getting warmer ,short sleeves are the go and cheap fuel $1.84 duh!!! compared to Birdsville anyway- put us down as apology for Innaminka . Keep an eye on Roachie , has been known to head home when it rains .

Cheers John
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