Hydrogen gas into motor

Submitted: Sunday, Jun 29, 2008 at 22:55
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Has anyone actually used one of these gens?
Much reading, much intrigue,much bad & good info.
Do they overheat,wreak a motor over time from heat/combustion,
actually work ????
please no fitchy turbanator add ons.
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Reply By: qubert - Sunday, Jun 29, 2008 at 23:03

Sunday, Jun 29, 2008 at 23:03
look at a sight called ' magdrive '
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Reply By: tommytom13703 - Sunday, Jun 29, 2008 at 23:39

Sunday, Jun 29, 2008 at 23:39
Howdy,I was involved directly in installing, training and developing LNG, CNG, LPG, Hydrogen Diesel engines. By-mix rate of over 40% achieved with all fuels. Cummins N14 acheiving 40% plus substitution with water. Look at the bus companies that run natural gas in replacement of diesel. They had to pump that much gas into the engine to produce the torque to drive the thing, they were replacing head gaskets at 5000km intervals. managing the power power is most important part of any fuel substitution.
Are you running it 100% or as a by-mix?

Rickster
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Reply By: Member - Bucky (VIC) - Monday, Jun 30, 2008 at 04:30

Monday, Jun 30, 2008 at 04:30
A few years back a yank by the name Myers, had figured how to split hydrogen at the motor, from water. Therefore no nasty gas pressurization cylinders, and at low cost..

Water powered cars


Hope this works

I wonder, I wonder, I wonder

Cheers
Bucky

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Reply By: marq - Monday, Jun 30, 2008 at 18:37

Monday, Jun 30, 2008 at 18:37
Unless you adjust your timing (hydrogen burns alot faster than gas/petrol/diesel) your trouble.

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Reply By: D200Dug- Monday, Jun 30, 2008 at 22:03

Monday, Jun 30, 2008 at 22:03
Looks very much like snake oil to me.

I think snake oil would run better in most engines.

One advertisement I read recently suggested that you could unlock the atomic power of hydrogen in your cars engine !!!!

If there was a way to do this cheaply and easily then I think someone would be selling hydrogen fueled cars by now.
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Reply By: mike w (WA) - Monday, Jun 30, 2008 at 23:36

Monday, Jun 30, 2008 at 23:36
I remember seeing an article not too long ago about some mates in Aus who made a backyard hydrogen generator that they had fitted to a car. Mixed with the fuel to create more efficient burn, and claimed approx 20% in economy etc. Not bad from a bit of tap water.

They were selling and installing, approx $1500 from memory.

Google may reveal more
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Follow Up By: Member - John W (WA) - Monday, Jun 30, 2008 at 23:51

Monday, Jun 30, 2008 at 23:51
$300 is the aussie one I read about.
$500 is the US one.
It seems to be like lpg injection a few years ago-
all shaky advice ,sceptisism,but it works..
I`m inclined to get one and see ,That it works is not an issue,it will,
what it does to my diesel ,is my concern.
It will use approx 60Lt HHO + an hour , sucked into the air intake,
and burned with diesel.
I`ve read varying info- it burns hotter,colder,exhausts-water,hmmm.
If it has no bad affects , it will be brilliant,if it burns the lube off the
cylinder I`ll be bleep .
Reports of usage indicate 20-58% increase of mileage/Klm.
My mind understands how it works.
Only hope it lasts.........
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Follow Up By: marq - Tuesday, Jul 01, 2008 at 16:56

Tuesday, Jul 01, 2008 at 16:56
Never ever inject water into a diesel engine - very bad idea.

All we are talking about is splitting the water using electrical power then feeding the Hydrogen mix into the engine. I believe this should be done after the turbo (ie using an LPG mixer).
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Reply By: Member - John W (WA) - Tuesday, Jul 01, 2008 at 22:33

Tuesday, Jul 01, 2008 at 22:33
sent a quiz to an Aus distibutor of an HHO unit, heres the reply:
> *_DIESELS WITH MECHANICAL FUEL INJECTION SYSTEMS,
>
> I have a toyota landcruiser
> with a 1hz diesel 4.2L mechanical injection.
> is there anthing special needed for this?
> cheers John
> _*
>

John,
There has been a couple of issues with
Diesels in Australia and New Zealand,
Our American counterparts using variable supply efi systems are making up to 40 % fuel
efficiency gain, and here we are scratching to make a 5 % fuel
efficiency gain, The reason for this is that we have Mechanical fuel
injection systems on most of our diesels regardless of whether they are turbo or not.
The mechanical systems work like a windmill,
the faster the engine revs the more diesel goes in and needs to be worked on in some cases to get a reduced fuel supply.
The vehicles or engines over the years that do
not make American Emission standards it seems have been shunted down
under, We can clean up the emissions and make more power as our
understanding stands at the moment.

In USA they
tend to purchase a vehicle every 2-5 years, if they are going to splash
out and put a hho gen on it's fairly new stuff, all EFI.

I have a few diesels with Mechanical systems all doing similar
results,however the Torque/power is incredible especially at low revs,they
are driving manuals like auto,s around town there is so much torque,not a lot of difference reported at highway speed.
I am getting customers buying for power gain reasons alone.
We are doing a lot of behind the scenes work on these issues, if it can be sorted
and applied to all vehicles we will deliver the tech support as part of
the sale, probably accompanied with a shopping list !!
There are a couple of guy's in Adelaide that put after market turbos on there 1 hz toyota's,
they had to increase fuel flow to accomadate the turbo so we will have a working example soon hopefully.

Jeff
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