Plenty Hwy in December
Submitted: Wednesday, Jul 09, 2008 at 19:11
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SometimesTraveller
Hi. I would like to get some experiences regarding the following scenario and questions. We are wanting to drive to Qld from
Perth for Christmas and are tired of the Nullabor trek. We would like to investigate driving to Alice and across the Plenty Hwy to Qld but understand that December is not the ideal month for travel in this area.
Can we please get some first hand experiences from the general reading public as to conditions that we are likely to experience. Understand it is likely to be mid 40's but is it likely to get much higher? We have had some experience around
Flinders Ranges of travelling in 50degree temperatures so are not complete strangers to this.
Given it is also very likely to rain, what is the road like when it does get a summer downpour?
We currently have a Nissan Xtrail but might look to get something a bit bigger if this is a definite no-go. But is the road too difficult for a small 4wd? We will be towing a small camper trailer so fuel comsumption might be an issue - how much fuel (petrol) would we need to carry? What is the longest stretch between fuel opportunities and would we need to check availability at any locations beforehand?
Thanks for any help/replies
Reply By: Member - Tony B (QLD) - Wednesday, Jul 09, 2008 at 19:24
Wednesday, Jul 09, 2008 at 19:24
Best advice is to stay away from the top in december. It is the start of the wet season and if you do make it through it will only be a fluke. This is the storm season and you can get up to 300mm storms anytime, anywhere in this country. If you do get caught you may not get the car out until the wet is over. Cheers Regards Tony.
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony B (QLD) - Wednesday, Jul 09, 2008 at 19:28
Wednesday, Jul 09, 2008 at 19:28
PS. If you do get caught when it rains you are flat out moving anyway. Black soil mud will stick like glue and near to zero traction after first rain and no bottom after lots of rain. Chow! Tony
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Reply By: wigger - Wednesday, Jul 09, 2008 at 20:11
Wednesday, Jul 09, 2008 at 20:11
S T ,
not discounting what Tony is telling you because I went across in close to the wet season and had a Lada with perm all wheel drive and ability to lock up BOTH diffs. ( used this vehicle because it has coils all round and you get a good shaking up) You would be brave in an X trail.
Here is some info though. Roughest part is the Q land side with 246kms to the border. Then it gets better on the N T side.
Used to be able to get fuel and
camp at Tobermory but they no longer operate. 220kms fr the border to Jervois and there's usually fuel there but I would ring fr
Boulia and have some jerries ready to fill. Another 131 to the aboriginal settlement which has a pump but again......Last time I was there the store had the cement stacked under insufficient cover so I'd be a bit cautious about the fuel quality. Fuel available at Gemtree
In dry weather you want use much more fuel than driving on a normal dirt road. In the glue..........
Total kms, to Stuart Hwy 715 and you should look on Google earth to get an idea of what you will be travelling across.
It's very hot out there after Oct and you will suffer if you get a puncture. Changing
wheels aint pleasant. Sounds like you might have kids and it's hard on them.You really won't want to spend much time out there with minimal shelter.
There were moments when I thought' how much more of this pounding and flying rocks can this vehicle take" but it was probably a bit rougher at this time. Others have reported it as being good.
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Reply By: balko - Wednesday, Jul 09, 2008 at 20:15
Wednesday, Jul 09, 2008 at 20:15
Early to mid December you should be right but just keep a eye on the weather via Internet. Went across the Plenty last week towing a van no probs at all.
Tobermorey station is no longer doing fuel so fill up at
Jervois station its a 450 k stretch till next fuel or less if you go up to urandangi but if it rains that stretch from plenty up is mud hole and you have to cross the Gergina river that flows easily in rain. fuel (diesel) is cheaper at Jervois($2.22) than gemtree($2.32). Cheers Tony
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Reply By: Bob Y. - Qld - Wednesday, Jul 09, 2008 at 20:22
Wednesday, Jul 09, 2008 at 20:22
Sometimes,
The problem with the Plenty, travelling from the west, would be the Georgina River. Its a long way to come from the Alice, and find out the River has gone over the bridge the day before. And the nature of these streams is that they can stay up for days, or even weeks in extreme cases.
I think it highly unlikely that that area could receive falls of up to 300mm in December alone, as the the average annual rainfall is probably much like
Boulia, about 250mm. However, you could get under storms of 25 - 75mm, that won't let you move too far, as Tony suggested.
While you are bogged, or stranded, or broken down, is when the extremes of temperature will hit you, day AND night. If you had limited
water, and even less shade, it could be hell for you, and especially for any
young kids.
Did I mention the flies during the day, and maybe mozzies & other insects at night?
Don't want to scare you, Sometimes, but this is reality!
Then again it could rain across the Plenty, pack down all the bulldust, and cool the air, even during the day, but the flies will still be there. And then you'd think I was only dramatising all of the above.
I only speak from experience, as we live fairly close to this area. Oh, and sorry for being a bit long-winded.
Hooroo,
Bob.
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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Thursday, Jul 10, 2008 at 07:23
Thursday, Jul 10, 2008 at 07:23
Sometimes,
Ring Glenormiston station Ph: 07 47461 211 or Roxborough Station Ph: 07 47461 206 for the latest on what the Georgina River is doing.
Otherwise
Boulia Police Ph: 07 47463 120 should be able to help.
Safe travels,
Hooroo,
Bob.
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Reply By: SometimesTraveller - Thursday, Jul 10, 2008 at 13:44
Thursday, Jul 10, 2008 at 13:44
Thanks for your input everybody. There is enough reality there to suggest that another Nullubor run is the likely scenario. Don't have
young kids, but do want to get to
Warwick for Christmas so might just go with the safe option again.
Ta
LP
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Follow Up By: Holden4th - Thursday, Jul 10, 2008 at 19:22
Thursday, Jul 10, 2008 at 19:22
The only problem with the Nullarbor is the boredom of driving along a straight road for hundreds of Ks with nothing to see but trees on either side (talk about tunnel vision). So your idea of Donohue/Plenty crossing is understandable. What you have to realise is that the dirt doesn't stop after that! You cruise down the Stuart into the Alice, continue south to
Erldunda, turn west onto the Lassiter to
the Rock and it's all bitumen - wonderful!
Shortly after leaving
Yulara you turn right onto the Docker River road and are effectively onto what's known as the
Great Central Road. This carries on for about 1100 kms until you once again hit the tar just outside of
Laverton. While rainfall is somewhat higher at this time of year, December is better than Jan/Feb. Temps are in the high 30s to low 40s. After
Warburton the road is virtually all weather and can be easily crossed. My main worry would be the easterly section from Docker River to
Warburton.
While the attractions are not supposedly evident, this is a scenic trip IMO as the landscape changes gradually as you drive - much better than that last section of the Nullarbor into and past Ballandonia!
Personally I wouldn't be doing it at that time of year but early enough in December it might be worth a go. Your choice.
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