Shower
Submitted: Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 00:08
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Hi everyone,
Please advise your experience with under bonnet shower kits, ie Glind or any other brands,
Cheers and see you in the bush
Reply By: Trekkie (Member - WA) - Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 00:25
Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 00:25
We have had a Glind (Flojet Pump) for about five years - would not be without it - in fact I dont think the other half would go away without it. Very easy to set up and use. I have seen some friends have trouble with the fittings and last year the FloJet had some problems but I was able to purchase a kit on the internet from
Adelaide
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Follow Up By: Member - RFLundgren (WA) - Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 09:02
Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 09:02
I also have a Glind. Currently still sitting under the bed at home as I am at the moment unable to find a place under the bonnet to mount it.
With 2nd battery, compressor, Dgas system there isnt a lot of room. Would have loved to have had it in for the trip in 2 weeks, but alas its not going to be. Guess it will have to wait till we get back and then be ready for the next trip.
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Follow Up By: Member - GeeTee (NT) - Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 09:04
Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 09:04
Hi,
I have a Helton fitted to our Patrol. Works great and was easy to fit. A bit cheaper than the others.
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Follow Up By: pepper2 - Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 10:13
Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 10:13
Hello Richard on my 3litre patrol the heat exchanger fits north / south on top of the bank of fuses on drivers side and there is heaps of room for the pump in front of the radiator and behind the grill,and
mine works
well also unless the
water is really cold to start with,met some blokes with a troopy with 2 heat exchangers to overcome this as they spent lots of time in alpine regions.Have had my unit over ten years and has been transferred to 4 vehicles in that time,
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Follow Up By: Member - Bentaxle - Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 11:01
Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 11:01
Richard I fitted my heat echanger on the firewall behind intercooler, had to trim small amount off plastic intercooler shroud and mounted outlet/inlet points on bullbar works like a treat. Pity I can't make the weekend getaway you've planned, could have shown it to you.
Mike
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Follow Up By: Member - RFLundgren (WA) - Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 11:16
Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 11:16
Pepper
That might be a possibility, although the heat exchanger may be a tad large to fit there comfortably and still be able to close the bonnet properly.
Mike
Rear of firewall wont work for me as I have the Dgas heat exchanger running across there, hence my problem.
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Follow Up By: geocacher (djcache) - Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 22:41
Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 22:41
Hi Richard,
Fit it in front of the intercooler across the two metal bars running front to back supporting the intercooler.
Message me if you want some pics, or flick me an email via my website. I haven't put pics of the install in the Patrol yet.
Camped in the high country on the long weekend and had to pre heat to get a hot shower. The
water coming in was little chilly to start with.
The 4.2 seems to run a little cooler than the Courier used to.
Dave
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Reply By: Member - Jack - Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 07:05
Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 07:05
Hi:
I have a Twine on my 80 series, and it is the best thing since sliced bread. And easy to install as
well. Nothing better than a hot shower at the end of a dusty day on the track.
Jack
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Follow Up By: Member - Ian H (NSW) - Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 20:49
Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 20:49
If you have the usual problem of scalding hot
water when you turn it back on then I have the answer if you are interested. Just MM me and I'll tell all. Ian
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Reply By: Member - Troll 81 (QLD) - Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 08:10
Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 08:10
I have a twine and we use it all the time it's great
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Reply By: Member - GeeTee (NT) - Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 09:05
Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 09:05
Sorry put the reply in the wrong place!
Hi,
I have a Helton fitted to our Patrol. Works great and was easy to fit. A bit cheaper than the others.
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 21:31
Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 21:31
Yeh, I fitted the Helton too....you can get the inlets/outlets configured the way you require. I wanted all 4 on the same end and this makes the whole thing a bit more practical for me.
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Reply By: Member - joc45 (WA) - Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 11:21
Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 11:21
Sounds like your mind is made up on an under-bonnet device, but I am totally happy with my $20 submersible-pump shower, avail from any
camping store or Jaycar. Just boil the billy, add to a bucket with some cold
water and you're away. Can be set up away from the vehicle and no engine noise.
Factor in the cost of a shower tent - not so much for privacy, but to keep the cold wind off oneself.
Gerry
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Follow Up By: Member - Glenn D (NSW) - Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 18:11
Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 18:11
I have used the same $20 shower since 2004 , I have an external 12v outlet at the rear of the vehicle and it works a treat .
Couldnt bring myself to spend the required money on an underbonnet unit.
However , I went away with the guys from work and one of them had one of the gas
water heater type showers , it worked a treat for alot of people .
Glenn.
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Follow Up By: Member - joc45 (WA) - Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 18:23
Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 18:23
I should add: a few times we've camped on
the beach (Winderabandi Bay for one) where we've used sea
water for showering, and the pump never faltered.
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Reply By: Member -Signman - Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 13:11
Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 13:11
I find that trying to have a shower under the bonnet was a bit cramped- what with the engine and all the other stuff taking up the room !!!!
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Follow Up By: Member - Nev (TAS) - Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 14:14
Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 14:14
At least you could get fan dried
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 15:15
Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 15:15
They are good if you travel to
places where
water is abundant.
Pretty useless in
the desert - just heat up your
water on the fire.
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Reply By: Member - Warfer (VIC) - Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 19:44
Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 19:44
Dont forget about the Coleman Hot
Water Service,Fantastic unit for showers !
coleman pdf
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Cheers
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Reply By: Crackles - Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 21:06
Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 21:06
I bought one of the 1st Glind showers back in the 80's. When it worked it was great but eventually got sick of adjusting the temp, fixing electrical, plumbing & coolant leaks then keeping the
water up to the endless number of free loaders that appeared out of nowhere at shower time. In a nut shell it was a chore to set up & keep it running. Over the years it's been fitted to 4 cars & had 3 different pumps of varying success. The heat exchanger at one point developed a leak in the middle so I added 8 more bolts to stop the 2 halves separating, a problem I've seen on other units that had been moved between cars.
In the high Country the cold
water only gets heated to luke warm & when turning the shower on initially one has to wait for the cold , then steaming hot
water to come through the hose. This is both a waste of
water in
the desert & potentially dangerous particularly for kids who don't understand the boiling
water in the heat exchanger has to come through before getting under.
If you have a large number of people to get through then these type of showers are the best way to go but I've pulled
mine out now opting for a simple shower bag heating
water on the fire. Cheaper, simpler, more efficient & with only one moving part there's little to go wrong.
Cheers Craig.........
KISS
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Follow Up By: geocacher (djcache) - Tuesday, Jul 15, 2008 at 23:54
Tuesday, Jul 15, 2008 at 23:54
Hi Craig.
Touch wood I've not had a coolant leak in the past 5 years I've had one. The air leak was due to trying to use click on hose fittings on the inlet side of the pump. As soon as I changed over to a threaded fitting that compresses a rubber washer I've had no more problems.
Up in the hills I just run the first lot of
water through from the river into a tub or pop up (folding) drum which preheats it. Then leave the in and the out pipe in the same tub for 5 minutes or so.
Then turn off the truck and everyone has a shower. 50 litres can do about 6 or so people. No noise. Warm
water and no hot burst. You don't turn the shower off, when you aren't using it you just chuck the head back in the tub/bucket.
Works a treat & can be done far enough from the river that the soap doesn't end up where it shouldn't.
Dave
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Reply By: madcow - Tuesday, Jul 15, 2008 at 07:53
Tuesday, Jul 15, 2008 at 07:53
I have a Twine in my GU 4.2tdi. nothing like a hot shower at the end of each day more so for the missus.
have a look here
http://www.mcs.net.au/~grungle/shower.html
Some interesting setups and tips! We have found the Shurflo pump reliable and quiet. We use a "shower pole" from 4x4 equip and it can also be used as freestanding light or an extension pole to prop up the tarp when it rains
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Follow Up By: geocacher (djcache) - Tuesday, Jul 15, 2008 at 23:56
Tuesday, Jul 15, 2008 at 23:56
G'day.
Great site. I had a good look at your pics before I set up my Patrol. Thanks.
How hot does your
water get from the 4.2?
What sort of source? Cold mountain river or warmer climes (makes a difference)
How many RPM?
What sort of heater setting on the dash?
Thanks in advance,
Dave
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Follow Up By: madcow - Wednesday, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:33
Wednesday, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:33
Sadly the
water temp is not hot enough straight from a mountain stream but we recirculate through a container to heat it up a bit more, Usually revs are 1000rpm with full hot setting on the dash. Our heat exchanger is longer than the std one by 80mm and it made a difference. The Big nissan engine runs cooler than the tojo equivalent we have found. Eg up the cape we pumped a shower without running the engine at all. The fittings need to be airtight otherwise the pump may not prime itself. The pump is over 11 years old now and could probably take a new diaphragm thrown into it.
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