KiwiAngler and Spot
Submitted: Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 17:49
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Mike Harding
Spot really is a fascinating system - I've been following KiwiAnglers travels for three days and note he has just stopped for the day (5.30pm Melb) here:
KiwiAngler's camp
about 400m off the Eyre Highway in SA. I'll bet the skies will be clear for him tonight - lucky devil :)
Mike Harding
Reply By: P7OFFROAD Accredited Driver Training - Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 18:14
Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 18:14
cool, so if I zoom right in will I see the Maxtrax that I sold him???
;-)
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Reply By: Waynepd (NSW) - Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 18:33
Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 18:33
Yeh i have been following too. Seems like the earlier plot points disappear which i find disappointing i was hoping to have a full record of the trip.
Anyway I reckon this gadget will be on my shopping list so i can return the favour and make him jealous when i am touring and he has to work grrrrrr.
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Follow Up By: Scubaroo - Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 19:13
Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 19:13
I noticed that too - e.g. all of the travel in Vic disappeared.
I made some KML files for Google Earth using one of those Qstarz bluetooth GPS loggers from eBay - but there's no remote upload option - just download via USB which gives you a file to upload to the web.
The Spot device has potential, I just think the current messaging functionality is limited and the service expensive as a result.
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 19:41
Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 19:41
Hey SR, how have you found the software that came with it? I have two of these (one a Qstarz (black) and the other the genuine Transystem one), both made from the same company, and the software is terrible to say the least. I have problems downloading full tracklogs sometimes as it hangs with that red clock thing.
You having any problems with the software or is it just my computer?
Andrew
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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 20:11
Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 20:11
System only shows the previous 24 hours of bread crumbs.
Did a check on satellite while Kiwi was stopped in
Ceduna, thinking he may have eating poorly, at Macca's. However, only looked like a shopping centre.
Anyone know how far west he's travelling, before heading up towards the Canning?
Hooroo,
Bob.
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Follow Up By: Scubaroo - Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 20:26
Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 20:26
I have software problems too - sometimes it takes up to 3 attempts to download the full file. It will always tell you the correct number of records, but if you scroll to the bottom of the "spreadsheet" part of the screen and the last row number doesn't equal the number of records, the download has failed, so diconnect and reattempt the download.
I lost several tracks of our
Kimberley trip because I cleared the log before checking the downloaded file - VERY annoyed to find the
Kalumburu Rd trip was truncated!!!
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Reply By: blue one - Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 18:36
Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 18:36
Way too much information.
The reason you get out there is to get away from this.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 19:41
Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 19:41
So don't switch it on?
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Follow Up By: blue one - Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 19:51
Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 19:51
That will never happen.
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 19:54
Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 19:54
Well... I can't speak for you but I have a mobile phone and when I don't want to talk to people I turn it off - I don't find that to be a problem?
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Follow Up By: blue one - Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 21:00
Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 21:00
Fair enough Mike.
You want everyone to watch what you do, your call and have fun.
Sounds strange to me.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Waynepd (NSW) - Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 21:33
Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 21:33
I find it irresistible i have the page as one of
my home tabs when i fire up IE.
Damn and they are axing Big Brother just when i got into voyeurism
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Follow Up By: Waynepd (NSW) - Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 21:38
Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 21:38
Think of it this way Blue One
We all get to do the CSR and Kiwi Angler pays the fuel bill ....LOL
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Reply By: Member -Signman - Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 18:43
Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 18:43
Wow-I'm impressed..Wot technology used for this setup???
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 19:42
Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 19:42
GPS for the position and GlobalSat uplink L band for the info on the web plus the e-mails/SMS's.
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Reply By: mike w (WA) - Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 19:02
Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 19:02
Mike,
it does look like it is doing its job rather
well. I was quite excited when I initally found this item on the web. This recent info confirms that I will purchase one prior to some hikes later in the year.
Mike Wilcox
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 19:44
Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 19:44
Mine should arrive in a week or so (from the USA). I'm looking forward to playing with it. Combine it with an Amateur Radio and you have a great bush comms system.
Mike Harding
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Reply By: PeteS - Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 20:14
Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 20:14
I've also taken the plunge and purchased a Spot Messenger. Can't wait for it to arrive. I tried ringing the Oz dealer today and their phone (including mobile) kept going to message bank all morning. Took the plunge and grabbed one on Ebay for the same $ as you did Dave.
I have been tracking KiwiAngler on a regular basis. Even feel like giving him a nudge to start moving again some mornings LOL
Cheers
PeteS
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Follow Up By: Grungle - Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 21:01
Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 21:01
According to the website you still have to pay an annual fee for the messaging component and an annual fee if you want to display your position (like Kiwiangler).
Can you confirm if this is true and what the fees are if any?
Cheers
David
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Follow Up By: Member - Graeme W (NSW) - Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 21:20
Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 21:20
GPSOZ lists the annual subscription as US$99.99/year and the "track progress" fee as US$49.99/ year.
Website info is here:
GPSOZ
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Reply By: Member - SNAKE QLD - Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 20:52
Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 20:52
Hi Mike, How does this compare with APRS? Cheers Snake
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 21:20
Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 21:20
Hi Snake
I think there is an interesting, although complex, dichotomy between the two systems. However, and more importantly, I would be interested to hear your analysis on the issue?
Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: Member - SNAKE QLD - Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 21:59
Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 21:59
Mike, It was a straight out question as I know nothing about APRS and thought you may. Cheers Snake
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Tuesday, Jul 15, 2008 at 08:00
Tuesday, Jul 15, 2008 at 08:00
Apologies Snake, it was a silly smartar$e response made because I was in a bad mood about something quite unrelated and thought you were talking about GPRS - sorry.
APRS is a position reporting system which uses Amateur Radio to send the users position via internet gateways to mapping servers. It generally uses the VHF/UHF part of the spectrum which means it has limited range. There are some facilities on HF but they were pretty limited when I last looked.
The above requires an Amateur radio, antenna and decent power source whereas Spot is a hand held device which runs from a couple of AA batteries and will work anywhere it can see the sky.
Mike Harding
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Reply By: Bonz (Vic) - Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 22:57
Monday, Jul 14, 2008 at 22:57
pretty remarkable system I reckon
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Reply By: timglobal - Tuesday, Jul 15, 2008 at 01:02
Tuesday, Jul 15, 2008 at 01:02
All,
I'm in Europe (where there are some mean trails in the Alps!)
Sadly in a 2WD, but using
the Spot as a primary interest tracker for family and also as a last resort for emergencies. It works great.
Can recommend it thoroughly. It has some drawbacks, but I'm considering becoming an importer and also for a rival product that I won't name here as yet.
Still would like to suggest again the idea of localised "HELP" button email lists for
forum members. Any comment?
I have a spare one available for sale if anyone is interested! Unused and still in box as a now un-needed gift.
Cheers,
Tim
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Reply By: Member - Dunworkin (WA) - Tuesday, Jul 15, 2008 at 01:24
Tuesday, Jul 15, 2008 at 01:24
Yep me too, I've been checking each day, can't wait for him to get on the CSR.
On my wish list too.
Cheers
D
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Reply By: richard - Tuesday, Jul 15, 2008 at 08:52
Tuesday, Jul 15, 2008 at 08:52
The registered user of
SPOT can
logon to the
SPOT site and look at more than 24 hours - up to 30 days worth.
These spots/waypoints can be downloaded in Goggle Earth format which can be used by Google Earth or imported as waypoints into
Oziexplorer.
I bought one a little while ago.
I have a few mixed experiences with it but overall am happy.
We have found to work effectively it has to be on the dash board - sitting on the
seat next to you does not work well and still testing but in bush territory /under trees it is not so good. More testing for that required.
If you have visited the PSOT Web site you will realise that you can get it to send emails to people. The email contains a link similar to what you see on kiwis site while in tracking mode or a link to a
spot via global earth if you press the OK or HELP button.
SPOT also has the ability to send an SMS message when you press the OK or HELP button (as well as the 911 button which acts like a
EPIRB). The SMS message has latitude/longtitude info.
There are a few issues getting this to work. I send an email to my GMAIL account, via PSOT, with various key words. On GMAIL I have set up filters to forward additional emails a to an SMS provider I have subscribed to (10 cents a message). I can send as many messages as I like that way based on the keywords I use. The SMS provider then will SMS whover I indictaed with the location I am at with a message saying I am OK or need help.
My father carries it with him during the day when he is out driving. he is getting a bit old (like us all) and likes to go to
places where the mobile does not work. This does. he is testing it for me, I receive SMS message on phone while at work as well as emails with global Earth links.
Sorry if the above is not clear but if want more details/better explanation let me know. I think it is a good tool - lots of room for improvements though but still could be a life saver and fun and informative to use - as per Kiwis site.
Richard
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