Canning Stock Route return

Submitted: Thursday, Jul 17, 2008 at 02:26
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Hi everyone,
We have just returned from our Canning Stock Route trip. We left on Friday 20 June and just returned. We caught up with our party at Ayres Rock on the Saturday. The group had just arrived from an aborted attempt on the Anne Beadell Highway (see vehicle damages at the end). Out of the 6 vehicles that started the canning, only 4 finished the trip. This trip was fantastic and wow, talk about an experience!!!! The people you meet and can help was great. For all those people I met along the way thanks (especially Brian from Leonora) for making this trip worthwhile.
We travelled down the Great Central Road towards Leonora. For those who haven’t travelled this road recently, well what can I say, it is amazing. We called it the great Central Highway because 100km/hr was the norm. We did come across a broken down 60 series with a group of aboriginals who were on their way to Docker River. This poor family had been broken down for THREE days. No-one had stopped for them!! We gave them food and tried to get their vehicle going but to no avail. We gave them water and some fuel and called the Docker River roadhouse who said they would take care of it. When we were trying to get their car going we actually saw a car drive out from a Telstra relay station about 300 meters away. They did not offer any assistance. We popped in at Docker River to make sure everything was ok and we were told the police were looking after them. Makes my blood boil when a car breaks down like that and people drive by .... Anyway....
We started the Canning on 26 June and can give any updates on the track people might need as I kept a pretty good diary. The stock route is getting very busy and we came across several groups a day.
The vehicle butcher list was;
1. 200 Series – The left running board got bashed, Snorkel came off mounting point in doorway and a rear airbag (blew a 1 inch hole at the top from well 18 to Georgia bore),
2. 100 Series – Bash plate broke mounts (aftermarket), FWD shock absorbers faded after bad corrugations and dual battery kept coming loose from mounting point,
3. 100 Series – Bash Plate broke mounts (aftermarket),
4. GUIII 3.0TD – GPS Mount (drove like a champ but it was mine afterall, the only problem was the mounting points on the cargo barrier kept coming loose.),
5. 1997 Navara – Long Range Fuel tank broke mounts and split the welds. Slow leak on tyre, Rear canopy leaked lots of dust. Vehicle pulled out at well 33, and
6. 2007 Hyundia Terrican – Steering arm snapped in two, Bash plates sheared off, Long Range fuel tank broke mounts and dragged on ground AND the rear left when sheared off the studs 465km from Alice springs when the vehicle pulled out at well 33.
The biggest things I learnt from the trip are:
1. After Market equipment needs to be checked. We had two long range tanks break their mounts. The end result was these vehicles pulled out. Heavy bash plates look good but are not worth the weight for general touring, especially when they are fitted to the original mounting points. I had aftermarket equipment and checked it.
2. Buy very good batteries (AA – AAA). Don’t waste time buying bulk cheap batteries. Buy only top shelf or re-chargeable.
3. Don’t pack 200kg of spares. Take what you need. If travelling with a group, spread the tools as this does reduce your weight. The car that had most of the problems was loaded to the roof with spares. I would recommend a FWD and Rear Shocky as these were common faults with people we met along the way. Air filters are needed (see the picture of my filter).
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4. Make an effort to speak with your fellow travellers. Stop and help them when they are broken down.
5. Don’t us channel 40 to describe flora and fauna as others us this channel to communicate, especially on the dunes, but you should use the CB to call ahead.
6. Take cash for fuel such as at well 33. They have EFTPOS but it wasn’t working when we refuelled. At $3.20 a litre you will need a lot!!!.
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Reply By: Member - Phil B (WA) - Thursday, Jul 17, 2008 at 06:53

Thursday, Jul 17, 2008 at 06:53
Hi Dave & Shell,
Great report.
I agree with you on problems with after market gear and with batteries. if track conditions are rough and unforgiving they will soon find any weaknesses.
On our recent 4 week trip in the Western Deserts out of a group of 5 vehicles,
Two had battery cradle problems,
1 had loose radiator problems,
2 lost power to fridges (after market electrical install),
1 kept blowing fuses (another after market install).
an auxiliary battery failed completely and
1 had a after market front shock fail.

Morale - don't go out that way with suspect or poor gear.

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Reply By: Member - Phil B (WA) - Thursday, Jul 17, 2008 at 06:54

Thursday, Jul 17, 2008 at 06:54
Hi Dave & Shell,
Great report.
I agree with you on problems with after market gear and with batteries. if track conditions are rough and unforgiving they will soon find any weaknesses.
On our recent 4 week trip in the Western Deserts out of a group of 5 vehicles,
Two had battery cradle problems,
1 had loose radiator problems,
2 lost power to fridges (after market electrical install),
1 kept blowing fuses (another after market install).
an auxiliary battery failed completely and
1 had a after market front shock fail.

Morale - don't go out that way with suspect or poor gear.

cheers Phil
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Reply By: Willem - Thursday, Jul 17, 2008 at 08:24

Thursday, Jul 17, 2008 at 08:24
Dave and Shell

The three OVERS apply

Overloaded, over pressured(tyres) and over speed


Yeah, these days few people stop to offer help to their fellow travellers. Having lived in the NT for a long time this is one thing we learned from day one...always slow up and ask if your help may be needed.

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Reply By: Stephen M (NSW) - Thursday, Jul 17, 2008 at 08:24

Thursday, Jul 17, 2008 at 08:24
Hi Dave, you didnt happen to come across a tour mob by the name of ""Misty Mountains Tours"" did you ?? Ken & Olga are there names. He was in a gq patrol (older shape). There was around 9 vehicles all togetherRegards Steve M
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Follow Up By: Wayne (NSW) - Thursday, Jul 17, 2008 at 08:29

Thursday, Jul 17, 2008 at 08:29
Stephen,

I was just about ask the same question.

Ken had a couple of vehicles that were not travelling real well and I wanted to get an update.

Wayne
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Follow Up By: Member - Dick (Int) - Thursday, Jul 17, 2008 at 09:53

Thursday, Jul 17, 2008 at 09:53
Hi Wayne

You still at home resting?

What tyre pressures did you use on the Troopy on your recent CSR trip.

Where to next?

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Follow Up By: Wayne (NSW) - Thursday, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:26

Thursday, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:26
Dick,

Resting???? Belinda has taken advantage of me being at home to some work around the place. So resting yes and no.

Tyre pressure,

Up to Well 10, that is where the dune start, I was running 36psi front and 38psi rear.
After Well 10 17psi front and 27psi rear. I tried to keep 10psi difference between the front and the back with all the vehicles on the trip. If a vehicle was struggling, a bit more out of the front usually did the trick.
Other vehicles in the convey let their tyre down a bit more just because they did not have the torque to drive over the dunes slow.
We had a mixture of brands of tyre plus a mixture of tread patterns and we did not have any tyre problems at all. We also did not have any shock absorbers fail this trip.

Monday I fly back to Alice Springs and do a 26 day trip in the Kimberly and then a 15 day trip from Broome back to Ayers Rock via Rudall River Nat Park, Talawana Track, Windy Corner and Gary Hwy.
That should be the last of the outback trips for me this year and will start on the Vic High Country late November.

Wayne
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Follow Up By: Stephen M (NSW) - Thursday, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:46

Thursday, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:46
Hi Wayne, you obviously know Ken & Olga ?? We have done a few trips with them as well. I know he was worried about the 2 100 series cruisers he had going. For memory one was petrol one was diesel. His main concern was the shockies on the front of both the cruisers and the range from the petrol one. Last I heard was averaging 25 per 100.The gentleman and his wife were going to take a camper trailer BUT I think he talked them out of taking it ?? Do you also know Mark from Glass Technology ?? Drives a blue disco....... I am just about to ring Mark and see if he has got an update since I spoke to him early last week. He is answering the phones while Ken & Olga are away. Regards Steve M
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Follow Up By: Wayne (NSW) - Thursday, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:56

Thursday, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:56
Stephen,

I do know Mark, we were all in the Blue Mountains 4WD club at one stage and that is where I meet Ken and Olga 19years ago.
I meet Mark just before I left the 4WD club but have stayed in touch through Ken and Olga.

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Follow Up By: Dave & Shelley (NT) - Friday, Jul 18, 2008 at 22:48

Friday, Jul 18, 2008 at 22:48
Hi Stephen,

Yes mate we did run into your groups at well 44 off memory. You had a large group of 10 including Ken in a GQ Patrol. The same group had a new Pathfinder which had some shocky problems and a troopy which had some flats that day. You were travelling from north to south and we were South to North. There was a new 200 series, two 100 series and the mighty GU Patrol!!!. We all chatted for about 10 - 15 minutes and then you were all off. How did it all end up. When I placed my SKED with VKS737 that night I gave you last known location.

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Reply By: Member - Reiner G (QLD) 4124 - Thursday, Jul 17, 2008 at 08:27

Thursday, Jul 17, 2008 at 08:27
Did anybody tow a trailer?
Great report mate thank you
cheers
Reiner
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Follow Up By: CJ - Thursday, Jul 17, 2008 at 18:06

Thursday, Jul 17, 2008 at 18:06
Mate,

After the trhread that can be summarised as 'anything you put on aftermarket will rattle loose' do you want to take a trailer?

CJ
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Follow Up By: Dave & Shelley (NT) - Friday, Jul 18, 2008 at 22:12

Friday, Jul 18, 2008 at 22:12
Hi mate,

it or not we had a group of six trailers about two days ahead of us upto well 33. A lot of people were blaming them for the track conditions, but when you have around 20 - 30 vehicles a day over these tracks, they will end up damaged. We ran into a few trailers after this but were coming from hall creek. Things I can surmise:

1. Expensive campers like Kimberly, T-Van and Ultimate were "common" (one of two of each over the 2000km). These were all new and had no problems when I had met them. I have taken a Kimberly from Wolfe Creek to Well 48 in the passed and after completing the whole thing now I would not consider it unless you had very good support from a group who could help.

2. Tyre pressures play a part in the trip even for trailers!!

3. I wouldn't bother as we took a swag each and a tent for bad weather. This saved fuel and time.

Hope this helps

Dave
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Follow Up By: Member - Reiner G (QLD) 4124 - Saturday, Jul 19, 2008 at 06:14

Saturday, Jul 19, 2008 at 06:14
The only reason I asked about trailers was to hear from somebody who did the whole CSR with a trailer. We had lots of discussions about that and after done the CSR twice I always said there is no way I would tow a trailer. I found people who have never done that trip all the way come down on you like a ton of bricks when you say leave the trailer at home but they get real quiet when they come back. I agree it is much more fun just taking swags and not wrecking your car or make it 10 years older in one trip.
We did the CSR up and back in 96 and I still have very fond memories, I would say the best trip I have ever done.
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