Building a Van - What adhesive
Submitted: Sunday, Jul 20, 2008 at 17:37
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David and Sharon
Hi guys, We're outfitting a heavy duty van and would like some advice. We're up to lining the interior of the van and have some Camec ply which we were planning on "glueing" the stuff to the steel caravan frame. (with some rivets - hidden behind things!!)
Our question is....
We've been advised to use Sikaflex to stick the ply to the frame, however after trialing it, it takes 24 hours to set...much to long to stand there holding the ceiling up!!
WHAT DOES EVERYONE ELSE DO?????
Thanks
Sharon
Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Sunday, Jul 20, 2008 at 17:46
Sunday, Jul 20, 2008 at 17:46
Why not try a caravan repairer and ask what they use.
Sikaflex, depending on which type you use retains some elasticity and thats probably why it was recommended
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Reply By: nsngood - Sunday, Jul 20, 2008 at 17:50
Sunday, Jul 20, 2008 at 17:50
Never built a van, but sikaflex is about as good as you will get.
Get some cheap pine timber that you can cut to length and use wedges etc to prop everything up. It will be
well worth the extra 24 hrs now for a long service life of a good adhesive. A knowedgeable van builder may tell me different about sikaflex but i have used this stuff in all sorts of applications and have not had any drama's when used correctly.
I just reread your post and noticed the heavy duty part of it. Makes me re-recomend the extra 24 hrs wait as cheap if you want it to last.
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Follow Up By: nsngood - Sunday, Jul 20, 2008 at 17:55
Sunday, Jul 20, 2008 at 17:55
make sure you use some extra lengths of timber or whatever to spread the load evenly accross the glued areas. Any where the glue touches should be supported in a perfect world.
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Reply By: Camoco - Sunday, Jul 20, 2008 at 17:52
Sunday, Jul 20, 2008 at 17:52
Props. Plenty of props.
I use 25mm foam as the contact surface onto the ply to protect it.
Work toward an exit point.
May sound simple but you end up with a forest and a long wait if you go the wrong way.
Cheers Cam
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Reply By: brentos - Sunday, Jul 20, 2008 at 18:00
Sunday, Jul 20, 2008 at 18:00
hi sharron
i worked for a rather large boat building company and did all the fit out of the gloss timber walls in the boats
so what we did was,yes,use sikaflex but also use blobs of pink car bog in a few spots and and put sika blobs around too,the car bog goes off within a few minutes depending on how much hardener you put in and that will hold it solid while the sika goes off and that will take care of what you need to do.
oh.. and make sure that you rough up the areas with coarse sandpaper so it will stick.
regards
brentos
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Follow Up By: Member - Craig M (QLD) - Sunday, Jul 20, 2008 at 18:07
Sunday, Jul 20, 2008 at 18:07
Just thinking..........
Blue gyprock stud adhesive is wicked stuff. It would hold while you waited for the sikaflex to dry.
I agree, props and lots of 'em!
Craig
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Reply By: Paul Grabonski. Vic - Sunday, Jul 20, 2008 at 18:11
Sunday, Jul 20, 2008 at 18:11
FULLER FULAPRENE 303
This time of year you are going to have issues drying with anything especially the ceiling. Majority of glues even while they may be fast drying are not load supporting in under 24 hrs.
We built campervans with Fulaprene 303 and never had anything come lose.
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Reply By: Dirty Smitty - Sunday, Jul 20, 2008 at 19:33
Sunday, Jul 20, 2008 at 19:33
Liquid Nails, cheap and effective. I swear by it, used it to hold bricks in place, used it to do the odd tile and magic for doing any cabinet work, window frame repairs. Just as good as any other product but cheaper.
Also for boging use builders bog, plenty of different types around, also very cheap to buy, I have sculptured, withg it, filled holes, you can sand, grind, nail, paint and put glue/adhesive on this stuff.
These 2 products served me
well and saved me alot of money while doing
my home renovations.
Cheers.
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Reply By: Member - Reiner G (QLD) 4124 - Monday, Jul 21, 2008 at 06:32
Monday, Jul 21, 2008 at 06:32
I repaired Caravans for over 20 years.........Liquid nails is the stuff to use. If you got a steelframe ceiling fit timber studs next to them and staple it to the timber as
well.
cheers
Reiner
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