thirsty patrol

Submitted: Tuesday, Jul 15, 2003 at 13:08
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i have a 1991 gq ti nissan patrol auto which is on gas/petrol but im only getting 265km out of a 70 litre tank is this normal all is my carbi stuffed what can i do any advice would be much appreciated p.s i all so have a roof rack on will that make any diffrence
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Reply By: diamond (bendigo) - Tuesday, Jul 15, 2003 at 13:35

Tuesday, Jul 15, 2003 at 13:35
gday robert.
i have asked plenty of people at work about the kays there getting from there gas and most would say about 400-450ks to a tank 90ltr.so your somewhere close as for the roof rack if i leave mine on it costs me about 70ks to a tank so it will make it worose.new job coming so no fraser this time:-((
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Follow Up By: ROBERT - Tuesday, Jul 15, 2003 at 14:20

Tuesday, Jul 15, 2003 at 14:20
GAS IS OK I GET ABOUT THE SAME ON ITS MY PETROL THAT IS A 70 LTR TANK ANG I CAN ONLY GET 265
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Follow Up By: Tony - Tuesday, Jul 15, 2003 at 14:39

Tuesday, Jul 15, 2003 at 14:39
How much fuel are you getting out of the tank?
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Follow Up By: ROBERT - Tuesday, Jul 15, 2003 at 14:43

Tuesday, Jul 15, 2003 at 14:43
SHOCKING ISINT IT ONLY 265 KM OUT OF A 70LTR TANK DONT KNOW WHERE TO GO WITH THE BLODY THING
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Follow Up By: diamond (bendigo) - Tuesday, Jul 15, 2003 at 18:37

Tuesday, Jul 15, 2003 at 18:37
i get 370-400ks but ive got a 3ltr enginenew job coming so no fraser this time:-((
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Follow Up By: Patrol22 (Queanbeyan - Wednesday, Jul 16, 2003 at 12:43

Wednesday, Jul 16, 2003 at 12:43
Robert
I know where to go......somewhere that will trade it in on a diesel - My 2.8tdi - 125ltrs - 900-1000kms depending on whether the roof rack is fitted
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Reply By: Luke - Tuesday, Jul 15, 2003 at 14:43

Tuesday, Jul 15, 2003 at 14:43
Hi Robert,

I have a SWB GQ TB42 on lpg/petrol.

On average I'm getting get around 20-25lt/100km between the two fuels depending on the type of driving.

Petrol is slightly better than gas, and a roof rack will make a difference.

Cheers,

Luke.
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Follow Up By: ROBERT - Tuesday, Jul 15, 2003 at 14:52

Tuesday, Jul 15, 2003 at 14:52
THANKS FOR YOUR REPLY YOU ARE STILL GETTING BETTER RESULTS THAN ME
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Reply By: Gerry - Tuesday, Jul 15, 2003 at 14:58

Tuesday, Jul 15, 2003 at 14:58
Hi Robert
Mine varies between 23 to 25 L/100 on petrol and 25 to 30 L/100 on gas, depending very much on conditions (chewed through 34L/100 once towing a Jayco through heavy sand with air con on).

Don't bother trying to get any better - I have been trying for years, even after a full recon job with fully balanced motor, carby overhaul, dizzy overhaul etc. etc. made very little difference. I too run a full rack and quite a bit of weight.

Just rest assured that at least it will go close to forever...

Cheers
Gerry
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Follow Up By: Ferret - Tuesday, Jul 15, 2003 at 18:16

Tuesday, Jul 15, 2003 at 18:16
Whats "forever". My EFI4.2 has done 270,000k's, the last 80,000 with the duel fuel conversion. Doesn't miss a beat or use oil/water at all. What sort of mileage can I expect before a recon?
Thanks
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Jul 15, 2003 at 17:15

Tuesday, Jul 15, 2003 at 17:15
Have you had it serviced lately? Start there, Dual fuel GQs NEED regular servicing. It makes a LARGE difference... Full Tune and Service. If in Melbourne, call Rod McCormack at TOtal 4wd Center in Epping. VERY HIGHLY RECOMMEND.

Roofracks=parachutes=bye bye fuel... Throw it in the shed unless you REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY need it.

What tires are you running? Also makes a difference. Is your car stock, or lifted, etc?? What accessories do you have, EG Whats the weight of the Vehicle?

Every GQ owner goes thru this on Dual Fuel, Luke that posted above nearly had heart failure on his first trip with us in his Petty/gas GQ up to Mt SKene!

He had it serviced by Total 4wd center, and is a little happier (Coming from a 2.8 GU), apart from the clutch dying, the head falling apart like all TB42 LPG GQ's, and the welch plug on back of motor dying in the bumhole..

$3000+ so far on top of purchase price and none of it really on mods, just maintance!!!!

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Follow Up By: Luke - Tuesday, Jul 15, 2003 at 22:00

Tuesday, Jul 15, 2003 at 22:00
...well - $1000 of it was on a suspension lift - and the head was fine except for the welch plug at the back of it rusting out...but having said that I got a rude shock after 10-15lt/100 in the 2.8lt GU to 30+lt/100 in the GQ!!!

Rod at Total 4WD in Epping serviced it, did the head etc and straight away fuel consumption improved by up to 10lt/100km. It is still a thirsty beast though, and I figure the 20-25 I currently get is as good as it will get :-)

...still love it though :-D
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Reply By: petprass - Tuesday, Jul 15, 2003 at 17:29

Tuesday, Jul 15, 2003 at 17:29
I had a 1990 (nearly 1991) ST GQ on dual fuel and I ended up getting 4.6km per litre. You're getting 3.79 km/p/l - which is about where I started from.

There were a few mods made which if I didn't need the extra range for a particular desert trip, i wouldn't have bothered with. ie cost/benefit = RS.

Peter
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Reply By: kezza - Tuesday, Jul 15, 2003 at 21:13

Tuesday, Jul 15, 2003 at 21:13
Ah Robert they are thirsty - but its a great carby - never let you down - even when you are near vertical. The 4.2s even in the EFI version never vary much on fuel consumption.
The 3 lits have a lot going for them can get over 13lit/100km (21mpg) on a trip but usually 18lit/100km (15 mpg) around town. They are no slouches either.

Best thing if you are keeping it is to put in a LR tank, tune it, fit extractors and a 3" exhaust and use slightly larger overall diameter tyres (It wont notice the extra diameter except on very steep downhill runs in low 1st - there is heaps of power there - unlike a diesel)
This will all cost more than you will save in fuel in the 1st 3-4 years. But hey you must have got her for the right price so you still come out in front over a newie.

kes
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Reply By: Member - Bonz (Vic) - Tuesday, Jul 15, 2003 at 22:43

Tuesday, Jul 15, 2003 at 22:43
ROBERT,

Get ya points checked, GQ's are deadly on them especially on Gas, I had a 91 Mav, (which looked remarkably like a GQ, but it was a Ford) ate points for brekky and when the economy went down the points were the culprit. My economy varied from 18l/100km to 40l/100km so don't despair! Its not your GQ alone.

C whatya reckon

All the bestSo many places to go!
So much work to do :0(
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Reply By: Phil R - Tuesday, Jul 15, 2003 at 23:12

Tuesday, Jul 15, 2003 at 23:12
I had 90 Patrol petrol back in 95, you could almost watch the fuel gauge needle
heading towards empty, there is only one solution for vehicles over a certain size & weight... DIESEL. I know this dosn't help your problem Robert but big vehicles on petrol are thirsty.

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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Jul 16, 2003 at 00:48

Wednesday, Jul 16, 2003 at 00:48
Heres an Idea.

Piranha GQ Electronic Ignition

This is a complete kit that replaces the points arrangement in the dissy. A small cutter wheel and sensor sits in the dissy and a small sealed control box is mounted in the engine bay. Then its just a matter of connecting to the coil.

Electronic ignition will let the motor run and rev out smoother. It is also more reliable as there is no problems with burning out points or adjusting point gaps.
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Reply By: Luke - Wednesday, Jul 16, 2003 at 10:11

Wednesday, Jul 16, 2003 at 10:11
I'm building an electronic ignition for my car as we speak.....will post results at a later time :-)
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Jul 16, 2003 at 13:15

Wednesday, Jul 16, 2003 at 13:15
you have too much time.
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Follow Up By: Luke - Wednesday, Jul 16, 2003 at 17:46

Wednesday, Jul 16, 2003 at 17:46
Haha!

Just finished building the electronic ignition - will install in the next day or two.

When I have some figures on what sort of difference it makes I'll post :-D

....looks good though :-)
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Reply By: jeelan - Thursday, Jul 17, 2003 at 03:52

Thursday, Jul 17, 2003 at 03:52
i got a 93 model GQ Lpg/Petrol with 110L LPG tank and 90L petrol tank. I get between 370 to 400kms out of both.

I tested this on a recent trip and managed to go 780kms between both and this was before the LPG gauge showed red. I also have bullbar and roof rack and was also carrying the usual gear for a long distance camping trip so i was happy with that considering the weight that was in the car.

In the city i usually get about 350 - 370km but then most of my driving to and from work is freeway related.

regards
Jeelan
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Follow Up By: Ferret - Thursday, Jul 17, 2003 at 23:14

Thursday, Jul 17, 2003 at 23:14
110l and 90l petrol? How do they fit under the car????
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Follow Up By: Luke - Thursday, Jul 17, 2003 at 23:54

Thursday, Jul 17, 2003 at 23:54
110L gas and 90L petrol I'd love to be able to carry :-)
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Follow Up By: jeelan - Friday, Jul 18, 2003 at 01:42

Friday, Jul 18, 2003 at 01:42
the gas cylinder is a 110l capacity but the cut off is at 90L to allow for expansion. If I fill the gas in at night time or in winter when it's cold, i tend to get more in cos it doesn't tend to expand as much as it would in say 35C mid day heat.

the 90L Petrol tank was custom made and sits under the belly of the car. it's made out of 3mm alumunised steel.
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Follow Up By: Ferret - Friday, Jul 18, 2003 at 02:05

Friday, Jul 18, 2003 at 02:05
I don't suppose your in Perth are you?
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Follow Up By: jeelan - Friday, Jul 18, 2003 at 04:02

Friday, Jul 18, 2003 at 04:02
hehe...yep i'm in Perth.....

why???
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Follow Up By: Ferret - Friday, Jul 18, 2003 at 05:25

Friday, Jul 18, 2003 at 05:25
Wouldn't mind a squizzy at your tanks.
North or South?
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Follow Up By: jeelan - Saturday, Jul 19, 2003 at 02:39

Saturday, Jul 19, 2003 at 02:39
Sure thing...
i'm in Duncraig, NOR
email me at
jeelanamin AT iprimus.com.au (delete the spaces)

jeelan
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Reply By: Voxson (Adelaide) - Thursday, Jul 17, 2003 at 22:50

Thursday, Jul 17, 2003 at 22:50
CRAPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP........................._____________________________________________
Petrol Patrols are Crap, crap, crap, crap.
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Follow Up By: Luke - Thursday, Jul 17, 2003 at 23:55

Thursday, Jul 17, 2003 at 23:55
WANKKKKKKKEEEEEEEERRRRRRRR..........................................
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Follow Up By: Voxson (Adelaide) - Friday, Jul 18, 2003 at 09:17

Friday, Jul 18, 2003 at 09:17
Yes i am... For buying one.... Could'nt agree more...... :o)_____________________________________________
Petrol Patrols are Crap, crap, crap, crap.
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Follow Up By: Luke - Friday, Jul 18, 2003 at 12:37

Friday, Jul 18, 2003 at 12:37
Yeah, good on ya ;-)

...I love my Petrol GQ :-D
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Reply By: uppy - Friday, Jul 18, 2003 at 10:43

Friday, Jul 18, 2003 at 10:43
Robert,Ive got a 1994 RX efi im getting between 650-700 ks per 91 lts tank is very dry . im not running with a roof rack .Ive in stored 2 Hiclones these do make a differance as i was only 400 per tank,im not saying that they well work for everyone.regards uppy
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