Diesel/LPG
Submitted: Saturday, Jul 26, 2008 at 03:17
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Blaze
Gidday
"""I came across this little gem on a
camping site on the web, I dont know if its completely factual but thought EO readers would at least like a look:
Anybody thinking of converting to Diesel/LPG be careful because this week the AAFRB (Australian Alternate Fuel Registration Board) have declared that all diesels from 2003 onwards that have been converted are illegal and unroadworthy.
A statement from AAFRB says that the LPG kits are not compliant with AS1425 standards because they have not been certified with emission testing. One supplier of LPG kits has started legal action against the AAFRB for restriction of trade because it is not possible for the kits to meet emission standards as there are none
available to be tested against in Australia at this time.
I believe the
AAFRB have notified VICROADS and informed them that any 2003 onwards truck or 4WD with diesel/LPG is unroadworthy and to take the action they deem necessary. """
Very Interesting read I thought
Reply By: Member - Paul M (VIC) - Saturday, Jul 26, 2008 at 07:15
Saturday, Jul 26, 2008 at 07:15
Current newsletter of AAFRB refers to this.
AAFRB Winter 2008 Newsletter
No indication that they have sent notice to their accredited installers not to fit dual systems though.....
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Reply By: Member - Hugh (WA) - Saturday, Jul 26, 2008 at 08:42
Saturday, Jul 26, 2008 at 08:42
Hi Blaze,
This notification from the AAFRB is correct. The supplier position that no emissions standards exist is incorrect. Light duty diesel engines need to meet ADR79/00 or ADR79/01, pending model year. Heavy duty diesel engines need to meet ADR80/01 or ADR80/02, pending model year.
We have previously done emissions testing for one LPG kit supplier on a 4WD (ADR79/00) but don't think any others. There are facilities in Australia that can test to these emissions standards. For light duty diesels (eg 4WDs) testing is undertaken via a vehicle test, on an emissions chassis dynamometer. The news letter is correct that no facilities currently exist to test heavy duty diesels (eg trucks), which need to be tested on a transient engine dyno. My work is currently comissioning such a test facility.
The aftermarket 4WD installers may think this doesn't apply but I know that the AGO and DOTARS are looking to clamp down hard in this area - heavy duty and light duty diesel. I've just spent the past 18 months working to assist a US supplier resolve issues with LNG dual fuel on heavy duty trucks. Their system can now only be fitted to pre 2008 engines as it is not compliant with ADR80/02 legislation. This position has been enforced by government.
Regards,
Hugh
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Follow Up By: Blaze - Saturday, Jul 26, 2008 at 10:06
Saturday, Jul 26, 2008 at 10:06
Thanks for the feed back Hugh, I believe your average Joe in the street has no idea of all this, as I didnt and its good for people to know exactly what the current position is.
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Reply By: PeterInSa - Saturday, Jul 26, 2008 at 15:54
Saturday, Jul 26, 2008 at 15:54
Hugh,
I am seriously thinking on having LPG installed on my 1988 Turbo Diesel Landcruiser. I believe this will be OK for 2 reasons:
1 The install will be in SA, the vehicle is registered in SA.
2. The vehicle was made prior to 2003.
Agree?
Thanks Peter
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Follow Up By: Member - Hugh (WA) - Sunday, Jul 27, 2008 at 23:33
Sunday, Jul 27, 2008 at 23:33
Hi Peter,
I don't know that being in SA changes legislative requirements as they are nationally binding.
You should be quite safe with a 1988 vehicle; however you should be aware that there is a diesel emissions standard that applies to vehicles post 1976; covered by ADR30/00. This is a smoke opacity test so I would think it should be OK; however I would recommend you check with the technology provider.
For info, a new smoke emissions standard (ADR30/01) was introduced 2002/3 and applies to all categories of diesel vehicles. Euro air toxic emissions (CO, HC, NOx & PM) were introduced as follows:
Euro 1 (ADR 70/00) 1995/6
Euro 2 (ADR 79/00) 2002/3
Euro3 (ADR 79/01) 2006/7
Regards,
Hugh
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