OzToppo V2.1

Submitted: Thursday, Jul 31, 2008 at 12:02
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Just got an email from Brian at GPS-Oz
CSR has now been "fixed" in the final V2.1 version.
I had a test CD sent and installed it to PC and the Nuvi 760 SD Card and with the Contour overlaying City Navigator it looks great So at that I would say ...go ahead , buy it and enjoy.
This photo of the screen with Contours near suburb of Manunda in Cairns


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Reply By: Member - Doug T (FNQ) - Thursday, Jul 31, 2008 at 12:25

Thursday, Jul 31, 2008 at 12:25
GPS-Oz is finalising the version today, masters will go to the duplicators early next week, shipping will start mid August. V2.0 customers will automatically get an update copy in post if they purchased directly from us or they can walk into one of our resellers and ask for a copy with proof of purchase.

No new codes are required for V2.1, V2.0 codes will work fine.

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Reply By: geocacher (djcache) - Thursday, Jul 31, 2008 at 18:25

Thursday, Jul 31, 2008 at 18:25
Gee Doug, I hope that looks a lot better at tighter zoom levels because I reckon that looks awful.

Contour lines are suplementry info on a map, they provide nice to know information and shouldn't reduce readability of roads, rivers etc.

You should also be able to work out your altitude at a point from them and looking at that they are so closely grouped you can't tell which line the altitude label applies to.

As map resolution decreases (zoom out these days I suppose) the contour detail should adjust accordingly - 100m altitude changes may be okay on a 1:25k map but not on a 1:250k map.

Having used Ozi on laptop & PDA, Magellan Platinums & Garmin Colorados I think that map needs a lot more work.

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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (FNQ) - Thursday, Jul 31, 2008 at 19:09

Thursday, Jul 31, 2008 at 19:09
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C'mon lad. use a bit more of that grey matter , 1 photo screen shot and you seem to think it's WYSIWYG,
Did you ever think that the contours can be turned OFF, and that was zoom level 800m or didn't you see that. A nuvi will zoom in that far that you might see 1 or 2 contour lines only,
where's ya imagination . GOTFW
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Follow Up By: geocacher (djcache) - Friday, Aug 01, 2008 at 11:28

Friday, Aug 01, 2008 at 11:28
GOTFW??? Even Google didn't find that one. Guardians of the free world??

Doug, I did think of all that you raise, but the issue remains that at that 800m zoom level or greater with contours turned on what you took a photo of is what you get isn't it?

In which case the contours are too close and dominate the map.

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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (FNQ) - Friday, Aug 01, 2008 at 11:33

Friday, Aug 01, 2008 at 11:33
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It all works like Auto mate, zoom in and you see less lines, and as I said if you don't want the lines turn em off, ...Oh and GOTFW ,means Gone Out The F##%!^ Window ....LMAO .

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Reply By: Member - Sam (NSW) - Friday, Aug 01, 2008 at 08:06

Friday, Aug 01, 2008 at 08:06
Do they come with an option to decrease the amount of topo/contour data displayed/overlayed?

Because its not the data thats the problem, its just how its utilised and manipulated.

So really is an issue with the GPS unit, not the OzTopo data set.
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (FNQ) - Friday, Aug 01, 2008 at 08:41

Friday, Aug 01, 2008 at 08:41
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Why would you want to do that as per your question , there is no benefit gained , If you don't want contours displayed all you have to do is turn them off,
I seem to get this feeling that you think the contours will be like that shown on my demo pic as being there full time like the pic, WRONG ,Ill do a photo of the same contours with different zoom ,
see it in about 10 minutes
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (FNQ) - Friday, Aug 01, 2008 at 08:52

Friday, Aug 01, 2008 at 08:52
near same area and set on 20 m

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Follow Up By: Member - Sam (NSW) - Friday, Aug 01, 2008 at 10:36

Friday, Aug 01, 2008 at 10:36
Doug,

All i am saying is the contour data is not an issue with the OZTopo and that for a given zoom level on a GPS unit, you may still want contours, but not as many such that they dominate the screen.

I was also merely thinking out loud that the ability to adjust the level of detail for the data set would be handy. This does have a benefit on small screens where you have a limited space to display data.

I do realise that when you zoom in that the contour lines spread out - i work in and around spatial data every day, so am not ignorant on the topic, and i did realise this from your post.

Was purely trying to help clarify things and point out that there may be a way to achieve the best of both worlds by tweaking settings.

Reading back over my original post, I probably wasn't clear enough on that.

But this is merely MY opinion. I realise if you dont want contours you can just turn them off. Just some people might want them at a lower zoom level, just not so many that they can't see any of the underlying data sets, and the ability to adjust how many are displayed would be handy - hence my indication this is controlled via the GPS unit and not a function/error with the OZ Topo data set.

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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (FNQ) - Friday, Aug 01, 2008 at 11:37

Friday, Aug 01, 2008 at 11:37
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No need to tweak things , nothing wrong with what you get , zooms in and zooms out .

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Follow Up By: Member - Sam (NSW) - Friday, Aug 01, 2008 at 11:52

Friday, Aug 01, 2008 at 11:52
Yes it zooms in and out, but when zoomed out, the contours do seem to cover a fair bit of the screen in hilly terrain.

All I am saying is it would be nice to not have to turn contours OFF to see the data underneath, just adjust how MUCH of the contour detail is displayed such that the underlying data is still visible.

Obviously when you zoom in, the contours spread out and the therefore the need to decrease the amount of detail decreases with every level of zoom you apply.

But as you zoom out, the requirement for ALL the contour data diminishes, and it would be NICE if the GPS/NAv system could automatically adjust the level of detail, rather than the USER having to turn data sets off and on.

Rather than it being an issue as I may have referred to it as, its more of a nice to have feature. If they already come with this - all well and good, if not, then I believe its something that would be of benefit.

If you are happy with how yours is, cool. Again, was just trying to put the info into perspective for those who may not understand.

Personally I would like to see the unit automatically do this with an ability to adjust the level of detail against the zoom ratio.

Google Earth and Google Maps adjust the amount of cadastre for a given zoom level, dont see why contour overlay data could not be treated any differently on a GPS! If they already can do this, awesome!

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Follow Up By: The Explorer - Friday, Aug 01, 2008 at 16:19

Friday, Aug 01, 2008 at 16:19
Hello
I currently dont have OzTopo handy so can not test..but... Garmins (well ones I have at hand at moment - 60C and Colorado) do have a DETAIL setting on the map setup page which determines how much data is shown on the map at various zoom levels. Not sure if this can be used to solve the clutter at certain zoom levels in this case.

Contours are probably not something that needs to be on all the time anyway - Dougs original suggestion to turn them off would provide a suitable solution in most cases I suspect.

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