Toyota Oil Filters

Tried that Steve,nothing there.

Yeah just had a look myself, I have seen them on there from time to time. Regards Steve M

i am in melbourne Don,S/E suburbs

Donk,(and TD 100)
Refer below. I concur. Not all filters are made equal! They may LOOK the same, but inside they are NOT!

Yougetswhatyoupayfor!

Cheers, Matt

Heres a cutaway of the Toyota diesel filter in question:
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As someone who has worked at various toyota dealers continuously since 1982 i do care how well you car is serviced

Mistakes do happen (we are all human) but no dealership i have worked at (i have worked at a lot as we are on the road full time) has the attitude you have described

Regards Don

Hi Donk......
You must have in the dealerships when they had good blokes working in them.
I worked in 3 dealerships when I finished my apprenticeship (in a service station) all 3 were very shonky and one of them told me I had to make the vehicles last only 3 months. I was the used car mechanic. I was that appaled after seeing numerous cars come back because I had to reuse gaskets and scrounge around the workshop for dodgy parts, I left the trade.
My hilux dropped the layshaft bearing at 70000 kms was repaired under warranty. Box blew up after 50 000kms. Cost 4 grand to replace. I was not around to have a look but I was told that the inside of the box was destroyed due to not being put back together correctly.
Now my nissan has had loads of warranty issues for which I have had to repair things after I have picked it up. Only because I was on a dirt track somewhere and was not going back to the dealership in a hurry.
One example was I went to use my winch after the third bullbar cracked under warranty. Whinch would not work? I pulled of the front cover and the power was not even connected.
I have never had the Nissan service by a dealership and do them myself, but I do insist on putting in nissan oil and filters.
I would never trust any dealership to do any of the work on one of my vehicles again. You have been lucky that other "technicians" have cared.
And you are a rare breed to care.
Peter

I agree with you Don. I have worked for three Toyota dealers plus two Holden and one Ford with one of them also selling Renault, Peugeot and Alfa Romeo. All of them made every effort to do services properly.

One of the Toyota dealers was located near a long hill on a freeway leading out of a capital city. During every holiday period, without fail, we would get a few overheated and overloaded Toyotas with blown head gaskets towed in off the freeway. The story was always the same: upwards of 80,000 ks on the clock, every service in the book completed by a dealer until the warranty expired then either a few services from small workshops or nothing at all after that.

The problem was always a restricted or blocked radiator. The service book said change the engine coolant and it looked like that is all the small workshops did. Our regular customers never had these problems because we would add cleaning chemicals to the system before commencing major services then later on remove all hoses and the thermostat and reverse flush the entire system with compressed air and water. The system was pressure tested, the radiator condition and flow rate was checked along with the condition of all hoses and it was refilled with the correct coolant.

Non genuine oil filters, the subject of this thread, were another problem, particularly with the 18R engine. I replaced many rattling and badly worn timing chains. Most were on traded in cars while the occassional one was from a non regular customer. It was common to find the little oil jet that lubricates the chain rectricted with particles of one particular and very popular brand of non genuine filter. I can't remember ever seeing this happen to our regular customers because we always used genuine filters.

As someone once said, you get what you pay for and that does not always apply to parts only.

Brian

You will also find a dealer will look for known faults when the service a vehicle, a backyarder may still find the problem...when it's to late and from a cheap rectification it becomes an expensive repair.

We spend about $15000 a year on being members to different industry organisations and staff training locally and interstate.....find a home handy man or backyarder who does that!

So yes there is a big difference in who does what.

Hi Don, I have worked for Toyota and mate you deserve mechanic of the year. I know for sure as sh#t that there was a certain dealer ship That was

"up on the hoist, mmm never been off road, come on guys we have another 30 to get out the door, has this thing been off road ??? Na drop it down wont need wheel bearings repacking, diff oil changed or gear box as it hasn't been off road park out the front and grab that hilux next will ya "

Saw this over a 4 year period. I wasn't a mechanic but worked next to them fitting aircons etc so saw it all also (pre delivery manager). The only time my wife's car or the old lux went there was when my mate was still working there. As he has left now neither of my cars will ever be driven in that dealers driveway. You are one of the few who obviously does his job properly and gives a sh#t and good on you for that. Regards Steve M

Don,
Sorry mate, that dog wont hunt. The price I was quoted was for a 75,000km LOG BOOK service.
And I quote from my Toyota Warantee & Service book:

* Replace engine oil
* inspect the following - air filter.

THAT IS IT! Nothing more. Do you think Toyota mechanics are going to do more than have too? No, because time is money! If Bloggs spends 2 hours doing this service instead of the 30mins allowed, do you reckon he'll have a job next week? Nup.

When I service my own car, I check more than I have too - it's been ingrained in me after 18.5 years as an Aircraft Technician to "spot the obvious".

My comments aren't spwaned from heresay mate, why? Read on:

My wife's Prado had its 35,000km service stamped for by a major dealer. When I checked, the oil was still black and the air filter cover (ibcluding the release clips) were still coated in an undisturbed layer of dust. When questioned, my "service was promptly carried out with no questions asked - and a new oil filter included for nix.

Secondly, my Prado went in for it's major 80,000Km ($700 worth) and when I checked post service I found; engine oil not changed (black), oil filter not changed, fuel filter not replaced and brake fluid all over the underside front end of the car. Again, when questioned, the rest of service was carried out and I received a free loan car for the day!

As for service bullitens and recalls, either Toyota send me a letter iinforming me, or I ask the mech's what other work needs to be done. They are obliged to carry this work out whether your car is booked in for a service or not.

No doubt there a good and bad mechanics working at dealers, but if I served up the same crap to my customers as i have outlined above - I wouldn't have job!

Each to his own.

Matt

Matt

I agree that you have been badly treated by dealerships in the past but to say that dealerships as a whole dont give a toss how well your vehicle is serviced isn't a valid comment

You have had bad experiences in the past but let me assure you there are good dealerships with staff that have pride in the work they do & don't cut corners with servicing

Regards Don

Don,
it goes past just the incidents I have had with dealers this year mate. The company I work for gets it's fleet vehicles serviced by the same dealer that did mine, and now after many problems that have been encountered with this dealer with respect to scheduled servicings, the company is likely to switch dealers. I'm looking for my 4th Adelaide dealer at the moment who may be able to provide the service that I PAY for.

If you can recommend a dealer here in Adelaide that will do the right thing, please let me know! Until then, I'll continue to service both my Toyota Prados myself.

I stand by my previous coments, so I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. By the way, your more than welcome to service my Prado's if your down this way. It appears your type are a rare breed!

Cheers, Matt.

There is only one filter to suit this engine sold by toyota australia & that is a 90915 30002 made in japan (denso brand) with a retail price of approx $42 and a trade price of approx $36

Regards Don