Cape York by 2wd
Submitted: Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 10:24
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I am planning to drive next year, from the bottom of Tassie to the top of
Cape York, "But" I don't have a 4wd. I it possible to drive from Lakelands, to the top of
Cape York in a small 2wd, taking it easy and with time to spare? What concerns me the most is the river crossings
Any "constructive" advice would be appreciated.
Cheers,
Terry C.
Reply By: Willem - Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 11:00
Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 11:00
Terry
What type of 2wd do you intend using?
An Austin A7 has been driven to the Cape and back and probably many more 2wd's
Body ground clearance will be your biggest worry
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 19:43
Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 19:43
The Austin 7 that was the first vehicle driven to the cape was not driven back. Lark Hoskins (the sponsers) sold it to the
Jardine family.
PeterD
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Reply By: deserter - Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 11:06
Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 11:06
After July you will go up the development roads no probs - just plenty of corrugations. Don't even think about the OTL in 2WD in my opinion.
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Reply By: Member - Ruth D (QLD) - Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 11:24
Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 11:24
Our Grandparents (and parents) used to go all around this great country of ours in 2wd vehicles and the roads/tracks weren't nearly as good as they are now. Maybe we've become a little too'precious' and have lost the pioneering spirit.
Go for it and have a good time.
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T NT - Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 12:54
Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 12:54
Howdy Ruth.
Tennant Creek at the moment for 4 days
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Follow Up By: Hairs & Fysh (NSW) - Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 16:56
Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 16:56
Your dead right Ruth, They did.
My parents traveled all through western QLD in a Humber. Sky blue it was. It was in about 1964 or there abouts.
I think the difference these days is people want to get there now.
They're always in a rush, I can't see a problem with the OP taking their time. Plan it right and everything is possible.
There is no rush, really. Slow and steady.
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 19:49
Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 19:49
The biggest problem these days is that the 4 wheel drivers have bashed the tracks to bits by travelling too fast and in wet conditions. The old timers travelled at speeds where they did not spin
wheels or broadside around bends. they also were a little more patient and waited until the road dried out. The low clearance of modern cars does not help either.
PeterD
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Follow Up By: Outbacktourer - Monday, Aug 11, 2008 at 20:40
Monday, Aug 11, 2008 at 20:40
I agree Nomadic Nav, there are many roads in Western Queensland I remember travelling as a child in old Holdens that you could not do it in now. Also, by-roads are not graded now since state gov't cost shifting starved loc gov of funds. Those are the facts.
OT
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Reply By: Rock Ape - Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 11:55
Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 11:55
You will probably have a fair deal of
suspension wear, you should be ok as long as you drive to the road conditions and pick your line. One of your problems may
well be your clearence as modern 2wds are quite low to the ground.
You will have to pick the right time regarding rain and get some info from people who have reacently driven the road.
As Willem said don't play with the old telegraph road.
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Reply By: Member - Footloose - Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 12:21
Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 12:21
Planning on doing it by yourself or with a support crew ?
One 2wd party got as far as Lakelands and ended up with bits all over the road...disappointing for them.
What sort of 2wd ? An older one would have more clearance.
Time and a support crew should see you being able to float your vehicle across the Wenlock.
You will need a few financial resources as break downs are very expensive and parts will possibly have to be flown from
Cairns etc.
Not an undertaking to be taken lightly.
If you must go, I'd suggest that you hire a 4wd. It can and has been done in 2wd but....
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Follow Up By: Patrol22 - Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 16:11
Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 16:11
Footy - Why would he need to 'float over the Wenlock'? There's been a high level concrete bridge over the Wenlock since April 2001.
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Follow Up By: Member - Footloose - Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 16:29
Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 16:29
Sorry havent been there since then :(
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Follow Up By: Member - Footloose - Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 16:43
Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 16:43
So when do they tar the road ??
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Reply By: Kiwi & "Grenade" - Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 13:07
Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 13:07
Id be checking ground clearance and even look at an up grade of the standard
suspension......
other than that....have a blast!
River crossing.....dunno hey....never bene up there....but wonder if a
snorkel can be fitted to a 2wd car????
Laura
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Reply By: Member - Madfisher - Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 13:52
Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 13:52
If it is a modern fwd corrolla forget it. If it is a 2wd ute with good clearance, take a hand winch, and put some 4wheel drive tyres on the back and maybe.
Cheers Pete
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Reply By: Ford_Rodeo - Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 13:56
Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 13:56
I reckon you could do it, as long as you dont do O.T.L and go aroung August/September(dryest time of year). Biggest problems I could see would be getting thru sand (maybe get a winch) and the damage to suspension/vehicle from corrugations.
Done last 4 years up there and seen a couple of 2wd's there.
Cheers
Phill
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 14:13
Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 14:13
When you tell us what vehicle you're talking about, you'll get a more definite answer. Most common probs with low clearance vehicles are holed sumps, holed auto trans and exhausts falling off, so worth checking for clearance, and considering a custom bash plate.
Also, as you'll be loaded up, I expect you're clearance will be less than normal.
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Reply By: Member - Alan H (QLD) - Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 15:26
Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 15:26
A 2WD vehicle can make it as there are no rivers to cross. The Wenlock now has a bridge and there is a ferry across the
Jardine.
As Willem said stay away from the Telegraph track that is where 4WD is required. Take
the loop roads.
When we did the cape we went directly up
the loop roads and then took our time to slowly come down the OTL etc. It took two days from
Cairns to
Bamaga across the corrugations. You will have to take it very easy in a 2WD as clearance is very important.
The biggest problem will be tyres. The road tyres on a 2WD are not really designed for rough dirt roads. Take an extra spare or two and a puncture repair kit
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Reply By: Member - Terry W (ACT) - Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 17:52
Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 17:52
I remember seeing an HQ (I think) Holden up there in 1975, and it did not come up on the barge: it was allegedly driven up and back by a couple of keen
young lads. The roads have improved a lot since then by all acounts.
Cheers,
Terry
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Reply By: Member - Howard (ACT) - Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 18:04
Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 18:04
I have just returned from a revisit to the cape and would suggest that anyone who couldnt drive a roadworthy 2wd up the bypass roads to
bamaga should hand in their licence as they would obviosly do not know how to drive.
there are hundreds of km of gravel roads within a 300 km radius of
Canberra which make the pennisula development road in the dry look like a highway,
cheers
howard
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Reply By: Dennis Ellery - Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 19:26
Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 19:26
Just got back from
Cape York - we spent all of July at the top, travelled up the OTL and back down the middle road.
OTL is a 4WD track but you can go up the main track in a 2WD if you take it steady.
You will see maniacs going like a bat out of hell on sections of the main track. I’ve saw a couple of 4WD’s that were damaged on the main track and had to be sent back by boat. I won’t mention the make as I don’t want the crap.
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Reply By: Supercalafreakinawesome- Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 20:27
Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 20:27
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Hi TerryC,
Here is a couple of pics of an Austin 7. As stated by Willem a vehicle similar to this was the first to drive to the cape.
A remarkable story
well worth reading about I think.
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Follow Up By: Supercalafreakinawesome- Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 20:30
Sunday, Aug 10, 2008 at 20:30
Oh, forgot to mention this one is at the
General Store at
Laura, on the way to the Cape.
Well worth stopping in for a look.
Cheers and safe travel
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Reply By: Member - Glenn H (NSW) - Monday, Aug 11, 2008 at 20:37
Monday, Aug 11, 2008 at 20:37
Gidday Terry, did the Cape in May. Some sandy sections on Northern bypass will test the clearance of your Moke - wasn't the Californian a relatively late model? All big rivers are either bridged or avoided by going on the bypass. About 10km short of
the tip an Apollo rental van had chickened out at 15 inches of
water on a minor
creek crossing. So close!!
You could even do the
Bloomfield track - there's two steep ascents but so what if you go up in first gear, I did towing the van. Also the Battlecamp road from
Cooktown to Old
Laura is only 115 km then 25km back to
Laura on the PDR. Or continue on thru to Musgrave. Only the crossings of the Normanby and
Laura rivers wil be a bit gravelly but the depth should be low later in the dry - only 18 inches in May if that. Have a good one, Warrie
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Reply By: Seakarvan - Tuesday, Aug 12, 2008 at 05:42
Tuesday, Aug 12, 2008 at 05:42
G'day Terry,
My view is to use your common sense mate, Look at the pics of that great little Austin the Jardines got. What do you see? ground clearance, large diameter
wheels (a longer foot is better than a wide one) and a relatively light vehicle, chassis and all. Do your homework and live with your decision.
The Cape is a far too busy place for me these days but a 2WD or two has been seen on the Cape. 20 or so years ago we came across three old buggers (like me now) in and old FE Holden fully loaded up. Bogged to the hub caps. I pulled them out and had a couple of beers with them. They were far from being the idiots as I first thought. They told me they come up every year if the season allows. They get bogged, get towed out then get bogged again etc. A slow trip but they were in no rush. At Wash-outs and deep creeks they would just wait for a 4WD before attempting anything. Someone would always come along and help like me! They had a reputation as being the old pains in the a##e particularly when they got sick of waiting at a
creek crossing and got caught, therefore blocking the track for others.
So Terry, its up to you mate. Its not a question of if you can make it or not, rather a question of what quality of trip you want and how much time you have.
Cheers
Seakarvan
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