O/T Finding company directors names

Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 20, 2008 at 09:53
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Hi
Nothing to do with travel, but with such a wide range of experience available from members, someone may be able to help.
I have been trying to track someone down who owes a friend big time. Both they, and the police, are after him for fraud, but he is very elusive and has more than a few aliases.
I have been given a name of a company which I believe he has a major interest in, and are trying to see if any on line searches are available through ASIC ABN search etc that give directors information?
Thanks
Ian
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Reply By: Member - Mick O (VIC) - Wednesday, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:21

Wednesday, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:21
Have you checked out the ASIC website? That'll tell you. Your accountant should know or ring the police Fraud squad in your state ask them.

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Reply By: Member - Porl - Wednesday, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:24

Wednesday, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:24
Any full company search (called "extracrt") will give full directors names, addresses, dates of birth and histories of directors.

Unfortunately ASIC does not say this is necessarily the most correct information however its always worth a go.

Cost is bugger all, about $13, at work we use an online service but I'm sure you'll be able to get a one off somehow just not sure. If you know any mates that are lawyers or accountants you may be able to get them to do a search for the cost of it. I can't do one here that's not work related, though if it's in relation to film or television financing ...
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Follow Up By: Member - Porl - Wednesday, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:25

Wednesday, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:25
forgot to say we use accessinfo

https://www.accessinfo.com.au/
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Follow Up By: Member - Porl - Wednesday, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:29

Wednesday, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:29
This is an extract of what you can expect. If you use accessinfo you can do a hell of a lot more investigation into ownership of assets, debt levels, real property interests, other directorships or major shareholdings, you can get a lot of info, but you may have to subscribe, but it's worth asking.

Current Company Extract for XXXXXXXXXXX PTY LTD
Extracted from ASIC database on 04/01/2008 at 12:01
This computer-produced extract contains information derived from the ASIC database, either from documents lodged with the ASIC (and processed as at the stated date of the extract), or from records supplied by previous State and/or Territory systems. Please inform the ASIC promptly of any error or omission which you may find, so that we can correct it. The Information Division of the Australian Securities and Investments Commission is certified under the Australian Quality Standard AS 3901 (International Standard ISO 9001).
Corporation Details Document Number

Name: XXXXXXXXXXXX PTY LTD 015957650
A.C.N.: XXXXXXXX
A.B.N.: XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Registered In: QLD
Registration Date: 18/01/2001
Organisation Number Type: A.C.N. (Australian Company Number)
Review Date: 18/01/2008
Details Start Date: 18/01/2001
Status: Registered
Name Start Date: 18/01/2001
Type: Australian Proprietary Company
Class: Limited by Shares
Subclass: Proprietary Company
Disclosing Entity: No


________________________________________
Company Addresses Document Number

Address Type: Registered Office 5E0842050
Address: LEVEL 11 CORPORATE CENTRE ONE XXXXXXXXXXX
Start Date: 31/05/2002
________________________________________
Address Type: Principal Place of Business 5E0842050
Address: 16 XXXXXX STREET
XXXXXXXX , QLD XXXXXXXXX
Start Date: 25/05/2002
________________________________________
Address Type: Address for ASIC Company Communication
Address: XXXXXXXXXX
Start Date: 12/10/2007


________________________________________
Company Officers Document Number

Role: Director 020427525
Name: XXXXXXXX
Address: XXXXXXXXXXXXX
Birth Details: 24/04/1953 BRISBANE QLD
Appointment Date: 14/07/2004
________________________________________
Role: Secretary 5E1345594
Name: XXXXXXXXXX
Address: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Birth Details: 24/04/1953 BRISBANE QLD
Appointment Date: 18/02/2005


________________________________________
Share Structure Document Number

Share Class: ORD (ORDINARY) 09564395L (AR 2001)
Number of Shares Issued: 20
Amount Paid: $ 20.00
Total Unpaid: $ 0.00

Note: For each class of shares issued by a proprietary company, ASIC records the details of the top twenty members of the class (based on shareholdings). The details of any other members holding the same number of shares as the twentieth-ranked member will also be recorded by ASIC on the database. Where available, historical records show when a member has ceased to be ranked amongst the top twenty members. This may, but does not necessarily mean, that they have ceased to be a member of the company.

Shareholders Document Number

Class: ORD 09564395L (AR 2001)
Number Held: 10
Beneficially Held: Yes
Fully Paid: Yes
Shareholder Name: XXXXXXXXXXX
Address: XXXXXXXXXXXX
Joint Holding Indicator: No
________________________________________
Class: ORD 5E1332026
Number Held: 10
Beneficially Held: Yes
Fully Paid: Yes
Shareholder Name: XXXXXXXXXXX
Address: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Joint Holding Indicator: No


________________________________________
Charges and Related Documents
There are no recorded charges for this organisation
Note: This extract may not contain all charges for corporations registered prior to 1991 and it may be advisable to also search the State or Territory records held by the A.S.I.C.

________________________________________
Document List


Form Type Pages Received Processed Effective Document Number
484 2 04/03/2005 04/03/2005 18/02/2005 5E1345594
484E Change to Company Details Appointment or Cessation of A Company Officeholder
484 2 02/02/2005 02/02/2005 01/02/2005 5E1332026
484 Change to Company Details
484A1 Change Officeholder Name or Address
484A2 Change Member Name or Address
484 5 16/07/2004 19/07/2004 19/07/2004 020427525
484E Change to Company Details Appointment or Cessation of A Company Officeholder
316 3 21/11/2002 21/11/2002 18/11/2002 5E0939476
316L Annual Return Annual Return - Proprietary Company
304 1 20/11/2002 20/11/2002 18/11/2002 5E0938503
304C Notification of Change of Name or Address of Officeholder
203 1 24/05/2002 24/05/2002 25/05/2002 5E0842050
203 Notification Of
203A Change of Address
203G Change of Address - Principal Place of Business
304 1 24/05/2002 24/05/2002 23/05/2002 5E0842049
304C Notification of Change of Name or Address of Officeholder
316 3 08/02/2002 28/05/2002 31/01/2002 09564395L
316L Annual Return Annual Return - Proprietary Company
201 4 18/01/2001 18/01/2001 18/01/2001 015957650
201C Application For Registration as a Proprietary Company


* * * * End of Report * * * *
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Search Time 04/01/2008 at 12:01
A.C.N. 095643959
Matter XXXXXXXXXXX
Transaction ID 7672631
Cost (exl GST) $12.40
GST $1.24
Total Cost (inc GST) $13.64


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Reply By: robak (QLD) - Wednesday, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:25

Wednesday, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:25
http://www.asic.gov.au/asic/asic.nsf/byheadline/Information+brokers?opendocument

Will cost you about $30
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Reply By: Member - Hughesy (NSW) - Wednesday, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:10

Wednesday, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:10
Try the asx.com.au site first and do a search for the company. On the company page it will list all the board memebers, directors, CEO etc. Might as well check he is a director before doing the paid search.
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Wednesday, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:15

Wednesday, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:15
That covers Directors of Australian Public Companies that are traded.
I doubt this bloke holds a Directorship of an Australian Public Company.
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Follow Up By: Member - Hughesy (NSW) - Wednesday, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:44

Wednesday, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:44
Very true - didn't think of that. Thanks John
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Reply By: brushmarx - Wednesday, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:11

Wednesday, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:11
Thank you porl and robak
I'll give these a try.
The police have all but given up on this character as they have nabbed him twice, but magistrates fell for his hard luck stories, and he walke both times.
My friend may have to take a more personal method if we track him down.
Thanks for your advice.
Ian
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Reply By: Louie the fly (SA) - Wednesday, Aug 20, 2008 at 14:10

Wednesday, Aug 20, 2008 at 14:10
If all else fails ring A Current Affair (be mindful of the legal ramifications). They lap this kind of stuff up and seem to get results for people, or at least they help with getting the ball rolling. Or ring the local daytime talkback radio station.
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Follow Up By: brushmarx - Wednesday, Aug 20, 2008 at 15:17

Wednesday, Aug 20, 2008 at 15:17
I would normally agree that TV involvement could help, but the loss involved in this case would put pressure on my friends' creditors, which could do him more harm than good.
Thanks.
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Follow Up By: Louie the fly (SA) - Wednesday, Aug 20, 2008 at 16:12

Wednesday, Aug 20, 2008 at 16:12
Fair point. We have some customers that just refuse to pay after you do work for them. One is a charity organisation dealing with handicapped people. My boss, being the way he is, puts up with it, but I always ring them and hassle the crap out of them. After 6 months of not paying I send them a DON'T BRING YOUR WORK HERE ANYMORE letter. Can be very difficult though. We had one customer years ago that refused to pay their account while at the same time the owner was building himself a huge house. We had a guy working for us that was involved with some group or other (to do with motorcycles). He overheard our discussion in the office and next thing we know they had paid up. Don't know what happened...
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Follow Up By: Mainey (wa) - Wednesday, Aug 20, 2008 at 20:50

Wednesday, Aug 20, 2008 at 20:50
Now why is it I don't think it was a 2 x stroke Honda
maybe a 2 x cylinder v twin with two exhausts I think LOL

Mainey . . .
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Reply By: Member No 1- Wednesday, Aug 20, 2008 at 17:13

Wednesday, Aug 20, 2008 at 17:13
good luck.....
unfortunately and based on my experience if they cheat and lie like this and are capable of being a so called director of a profitable? company, you'll have very little likely-hood of getting retribution...if it aint profitable even less....

they may evenl leave the country if it gets too hot...the scumbags
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Reply By: tazbaz - Wednesday, Aug 20, 2008 at 17:24

Wednesday, Aug 20, 2008 at 17:24
G'day brushmarx

Try the Australian Business Register - type abr into google, click on pages for australia and I feel lucky. You should be able to trace the directors using both the ABR and ASIC and you may be lucky and get a phone number etc from the electronic white pages.

Barry
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Reply By: Member - Brian H (QLD) - Thursday, Aug 21, 2008 at 00:02

Thursday, Aug 21, 2008 at 00:02
It would seem you need a debt collector don't pussy foot around want a name of the one I use PM me.

Works VERY well for me.

Brian
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