Snow Chains on 4WDs

Submitted: Friday, Aug 22, 2008 at 08:50
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Here is the info on regulations for snow chain use in NSW copied from the RTA website.

So it's clear that there is no legal requirement for 4WDs to carry chains.

-Snow chains are recommended by the RTA for all vehicles, when driving in poor snow conditions to assist drivers and reduce accidents.
-When driving in the Alpine Region, the RTA has identified possible snow and ice risk sections with yellow lane line marking and signposting. Snow and ice risk sections have been identified on the approaches to and within the National Park, and the RTA recommends that all vehicles carry chains in these areas.
-National Park regulations state that all vehicles (except 4WD vehicle) entering the National Park must carry chains when driving through designated 'snow and ice' risk sections. Snow and ice risk sections are identified by black and yellow signs within the Kosciuszko National Park. The current designated 'snow and ice' risk sections are:
Alpine Way – Thredbo to Tom Grogin
Kosciuszko Road within the National Park boundary
Guthega Road within the National Park boundary
-When directed by signs or an authorised officer, fit the chains to the vehicles driving wheels (back wheels on rear wheel drive cars and front wheels on front wheel drive cars). Generally, this will be at special chain fitting bays along the route.
-While four wheel drive vehicles may not be required to fit chains, it is still wise to carry them and will certainly assist if you lack experience driving on ice and snow. You may also need them in the event of extreme weather conditions.
-Make sure the chains you buy or hire are suitable for the wheel diameter and tyre size of your vehicle. If possible, have a practice fitting in your garage before the journey so that you understand how to fit the chains and won't be placed in a difficult situation in bad weather conditions.
-Tyre pressure should be 25 kPa or higher when using chains. Tyre manufactures recommend that cars with radial tyres shouldn't travel faster than 40 km/h when fitted with chains. Stop and check the tension of the chains after driving about 200 metres.
-Remove the chains immediately when you are told it's safe to do so.
-Random chain inspections will take place throughout the ski season and fines exceeding $300 will be issued to drivers who fail to comply with National Park regulations on the use of snow chains.
-Chain bays are located on Kosciuszkio Road at:
Sawpit Creek
Wilsons Valley
Dainers
Prussian Creek
-Chain bays are located on the Alpine Way at:
Penderlea
Thredbo Diggings
Ranger Station
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Reply By: DIO - Friday, Aug 22, 2008 at 09:11

Friday, Aug 22, 2008 at 09:11
So how would you advise people with 4wd fitted with normal road tyres to negotiate an uphill slope if the road has snow and ice covering? How do you obtain traction if the tyres are slipping on the ice/snow? How do you negotiate a downhill slope when the road is covered with ice/snow and no chains fitted? How can you maintain safe (any)steering on a downhill slope if the road is covered with ice/snow? A 4wd or vehicle with lsd is absolutely useless in such conditions if the tyres cannot gain traction on the road surface.
What you are saying about the requirement for 4wd to carry chains in designated areas might be correct however Police and Rangers may choose to refuse such non-equipped vehicle entry or access to snow and ice covered areas if the consider such vehicle to be at risk to road surface/terrain damage or other vehicles.
What happens then when you've travelled hundreds of km for a holiday in the snow and you can't gain entry to the snow-fields?
Seems to me only common sense to carry chains in any vehicle for added safety for myself, my family and other road users.
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Friday, Aug 22, 2008 at 09:39

Friday, Aug 22, 2008 at 09:39
I wish you would learn to read what people actually write -

"So it's clear that there is no legal requirement for 4WDs to carry chains."

I gave absolutely no recommendation on what to do!

Previously I was concerned by the number of people here who criticise your posts - now I understand why so many people see the need to do so.
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Follow Up By: Member - Mark G (NSW) - Saturday, Aug 23, 2008 at 08:41

Saturday, Aug 23, 2008 at 08:41
MIKE


your're right, & the scariest thing is this jerk might actually have a driving licence!!
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Reply By: Ray - Friday, Aug 22, 2008 at 09:34

Friday, Aug 22, 2008 at 09:34
Who in their right mind would want to go to those regions anyway?
I migrated from Europe to Australia 50 yrs ago to get away from those conditions. Bugger driving on snow and ice.
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Reply By: Member - Serg (VIC) - Friday, Aug 22, 2008 at 09:48

Friday, Aug 22, 2008 at 09:48
Some believe that having 4WD (they even call something like Honda CR-V a 4WD!) give you ticket to go anywhere “as is”. Nothing could be worse that such perception. Even with “proper” muddies no-one 4WD can do any good on icy slope – forget about stock, usually “bitumen” style rubber! There is simply NO SUBSTITUTION to good chains. If one has different point of view then I can assure that they never drove on ice. Plus chains exceptionally good on mud as well.

Cheers
Serg
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