My new travel camera. Almost got the hang of it

Submitted: Sunday, Aug 24, 2008 at 20:12
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Hey all, Almost got used to this camera now. Have taken 500 pics and have to have it spot on this weekend for the Mountain Bike world cup in canberra this weekend.
Thought I may share my latest pic

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Reply By: Max - Sydney - Sunday, Aug 24, 2008 at 20:24

Sunday, Aug 24, 2008 at 20:24
Mate

You've got the hang of it all right. That is a superb photo - everybody takes pikkies of the coat hanger, but you have managed an out of the box view.

Reckon you'll be right for next weekend. Congratulations.

Max
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Follow Up By: Member - extfilm (NSW) - Sunday, Aug 24, 2008 at 20:40

Sunday, Aug 24, 2008 at 20:40
Thanks Max,
I am hoping to pull something out of the bag (Creatively) next weekend as there will be photogs from all over the world considering it is one of the rounds of the world cup. Plus next year we have the world champs
Peter
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Reply By: Jo and Mark (Qld) - Sunday, Aug 24, 2008 at 20:36

Sunday, Aug 24, 2008 at 20:36
How do you do it Peter!
You could sell that picture back to the NSW Government!
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Follow Up By: Member - extfilm (NSW) - Sunday, Aug 24, 2008 at 20:44

Sunday, Aug 24, 2008 at 20:44
Jo, I am still learning the camera!!!!!!!!!!!!
Although I think the pic will be going in Aus Photog mag as soon as I have finished writing the story. They have already accepted the first pics I took with the camera as long as a story goes with it...... I HATE WRITING.......
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Follow Up By: Jo and Mark (Qld) - Sunday, Aug 24, 2008 at 20:46

Sunday, Aug 24, 2008 at 20:46
So you write as well as take pictures hey!
At least there is one smart one here!

What do you have to write?
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Follow Up By: Member - extfilm (NSW) - Sunday, Aug 24, 2008 at 20:53

Sunday, Aug 24, 2008 at 20:53
A bit about the camera, the camera was officially released to the world on the 25th July and I managed to get my hands on it on the 23rd? A bit about how I got my ideas for the shots, a bit about the settings da de da de da..... I have got 800 words together which I wrote from the comforts of my swag in Yuragir NP next to a raging fire. Still have 400 words to write. probably a conclusion too...... I so hate writing I need to be in the write head space...... Usually 5 or 6 bourbons :)
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Follow Up By: Jo and Mark (Qld) - Sunday, Aug 24, 2008 at 21:04

Sunday, Aug 24, 2008 at 21:04
Did you say you were a mechanic or had some other trade when we were at Kunderang?

I take a guess that doing the photography must bring you some decent money though cause you are always travelling everywhere for photos!
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Follow Up By: Member - extfilm (NSW) - Sunday, Aug 24, 2008 at 21:12

Sunday, Aug 24, 2008 at 21:12
Yes Jo, finished my mechanics trade almost 20 years ago now.
No photography does not bring any cash at the moment because I am too busy with owning (leasing) 3 excavators and a bobcat. Also looking after another 22 machines with my step father. Construction brings enough cash for me to travel.
Although I have given my notice for december 2009 to be out of debt and out of construction so as to travel, take pics and write. May do some sort of writing course next year.
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Follow Up By: Jo and Mark (Qld) - Sunday, Aug 24, 2008 at 21:27

Sunday, Aug 24, 2008 at 21:27
I can give you a paying job for your photography skills!

I need some portait photos done when my back is all finished!
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Follow Up By: Jo and Mark (Qld) - Sunday, Aug 24, 2008 at 21:49

Sunday, Aug 24, 2008 at 21:49
Somehow though I don't think it could match up to the photos you take elsewhere!!!!!!!!!!
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Follow Up By: Member - extfilm (NSW) - Sunday, Aug 24, 2008 at 21:57

Sunday, Aug 24, 2008 at 21:57
Jo, you're right, for some reason my protrait work is absoloutly cra p. I do not know why but for some reason as much as I try I just can not get a handle on it. Although the weddings I have done people always rave about the pics.
Give me sports, landscapes, nature or anything outdoors and I love it.
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Follow Up By: Jo and Mark (Qld) - Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 08:12

Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 08:12
Oh Peter! No I wasn't saying your portrait work is cra p! I am sure that is probable your personal opinion but for all of us every photo you take is amazing! I meant it as Somehow taking measly portrait photos of someones artwork on skin just couldn't compare to all the other photos you take!!!!!
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Reply By: Kroozer - Sunday, Aug 24, 2008 at 20:41

Sunday, Aug 24, 2008 at 20:41
Absolutely smick. That looks spot on to me, what type of camera and settings do you need to achieve shots like that? I am starting to gain an interest in photography, and if i could ever ever snap a shot like that i wouyld be very happy. Well Done
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Follow Up By: Member - extfilm (NSW) - Sunday, Aug 24, 2008 at 20:48

Sunday, Aug 24, 2008 at 20:48
Thanks Kroozer,
The camera is a Nikon D700, 28mm lens, Played with the settings quite a bit though and for some reason I am unable to get all the data from the pic??????
Peter
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Follow Up By: Member - Mark E (VIC) - Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 09:46

Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 09:46
Kroozer,

As Peter will no doubt attest to, photos like the one pictured above are created by a photographer, not by a camera. Asking a photographer what type of camera he used to create his image is akin to asking a chef what type of oven he uses to create his gourmet meals.

IMHO the camera is simply a tool used to capture the image, whilst the knowledge, skills and experience of the photographer, particularly in recognizing the quality of the light is the key to quality photographs, whether they be portraits, landscape or whatever.

Whenever anyone asks me what sort of camera they should buy, I advise them to purchase the one that they think feels good in their hands and that can become and extension of themselves, so as to not 'hinder' the photographic process. Generally, the simpler the better. Just about ANY camera is capable of producing excellent photographs in the right hands. It is just so common these days for people to purchase an extremely expensive piece of photographic equipment, thinking that it will magically ensure that all of their photos will be wonderful. I have a 30 year old Rolleiflex camera that is so simple in operation that it doesn't even have a battery, yet the quality of image the camera is capable of producing is still beyond my capacity to maximally benefit. I need to learn more!

Often that money would be better spent on photographic text books, a tuition course or on trips to practice technical and creative skills. Much can be learned from great photographers (and I include Peter in that description) about technique and this is important in terms of the ability to control and utilize your equipment to its maximum. There are however things that cannot be taught and that is the innate ability to recognize a great image when confronted by one. The most important rule is to be there!

Here's a quick recent one taken between the rainy days on our recent WA trip. Straight out of the camera with (as yet) no tweaking in Photoshop, not even any sharpening......



I encourage everyone to have a go, especially these days with digital imaging where you don't have to waste film experimenting with exposure, depth of field, composition and gaining a feel for great light.


Cheers,

Mark


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Follow Up By: Member - Mark E (VIC) - Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 11:28

Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 11:28
Woops - stuffed up. try this....



Cheers,

Mark

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Follow Up By: Jo and Mark (Qld) - Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 12:38

Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 12:38
Wowww that is great!
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Follow Up By: Member - extfilm (NSW) - Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 20:33

Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 20:33
That's very nice Mark..... I can't wait till I can see a scene like that and actually get some pics of it......
Got to be in the right place at the right time huh :)
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Reply By: Member - Fourplayfull - Sunday, Aug 24, 2008 at 21:23

Sunday, Aug 24, 2008 at 21:23
Fantastic shot Peter , have to be worth dollars to the NSW Tourism Dept.
Very envious of your expertise , I am still learning from our midnight ,full moon clear sky desert lessons , great memories .

Cheers John & Suzette
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Follow Up By: Member - extfilm (NSW) - Sunday, Aug 24, 2008 at 22:02

Sunday, Aug 24, 2008 at 22:02
You guys have got a grasp on it all right and took to it very quick. I am trying to teach a mate at the moment and it is very frustrating as he is not getting the results that u guys got. He was all excited when I got back from our trip because he was the proud owner of a D80 as well.
I am still waiting for the pics from your trip up north. I bet there are some stunning images to show off.
I may also be down your way over xmas/new year. Would be good to catch up
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Reply By: Trevor R (QLD) - Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 08:20

Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 08:20
HOLY GUACAMOLE !!!!!!!! nice shot. Sunrise is it?

When does your photography lessons start and how much are they hehehe. There is a lifestyle to envy here if you ask me. Plenty of skill to get to the level you have achieved though. Photography is not like golf where you need a caddy to pass you the right lens is it? reckon I could handle this if it is LOL!!

Regards,
Trevor.
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Follow Up By: Ross H (QLD) - Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 10:01

Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 10:01
Hey Trevor
Stop encouraging him, just when I think I am getting the hang of our new camera Peter goes and puts up photos like that.
It is quite obvious he does not play well with others, talk about take the wind out of your sails.

Well done Peter.
Just put me down for the next course with Trevor.....LOL

Green with envy

Regards Ross
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Follow Up By: Member - extfilm (NSW) - Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 10:18

Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 10:18
Hey Trev and Ross,
I'll keep you guys in mind if I do start classes. Am finding it very frustrating at the moment as I am trying to teach a mate at the moment and we are not really making any progress. :(
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Follow Up By: Jo and Mark (Qld) - Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 11:03

Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 11:03
But is it something you can 'teach' someone?
We are all capable of learning.. but from what I've noticed with people.. there are the ones that are taught something, and they aren't too bad, (some aren't too good either!) and then there are the people that are just naturally gifted. You Peter.. are one of the naturally gifted ones!!!!!
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Follow Up By: Member - extfilm (NSW) - Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 12:35

Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 12:35
Hey Trev,
It is sunset and is the third shot in a series I am doing. I only need one more pic to complete the series and it is a sunrise pic....... Bloody Olympics have distracted me too much to be able to get up at 4.30am to get the last shot. I have set the alarm every morn for the last 2 weeks but have not got up to get it. Now the olympics are finished hope to get an early night and be up at 4.30 in the morn.......
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Reply By: Member - Rodney B- Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 09:52

Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 09:52
D700 current price is $6000 with lens at the moment at camera warehouse .
Out of my price range I'm afraid.
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 08:16

Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 08:16
but as Mark E above says...an expensive camera aint going to help us part time happy snapper party photographers one little bit......


i reckon, take lots n lots of photos. write down what when why and how for each pic and learn from what was good and what was crappy...cant remember the exact words Jan Dalton called it...but it meant the same.....he was my tutor when i did course ..he taught Black and White....I still havent mastered it
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Reply By: HGMonaro - Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 10:05

Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 10:05
Very rich colours! Looks like cross processed Velvia. Not straight out of the camera I gather?

Haven't checked yet but I'm hoping the new D90 will meter properly with my Ais Nikkors. If so, I'll probably ditch my Pentax for one.

Cheers, Nige
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Follow Up By: Member - extfilm (NSW) - Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 10:15

Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 10:15
Hey Nige,

I am old school and I still have 80 rolls of Velvia 50 sitting in the freezer....... That is were my training has come from, learning to take pics with the legendary velvia. Having said that. I do not have time to work on my pics on the computer. I have an excavation business! All my pics taken with a digital camera are as I see them with no manipulation. I have just printed it out on an 8 colour printer and it looks superb.
Peter
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Follow Up By: HGMonaro - Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 10:53

Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 10:53
Peter, thanks for the info... loking forward to seeing some more.

I'm definetly old school, still enjoy taking my 4x5 with B&W film out for a stroll and don't play with the digifiles too much either, but for travel the DSLR is rather handy.

Cheers, Nige
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Reply By: ExplorOz - David & Michelle - Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 12:54

Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 12:54
Really nice work Peter. I'll show my mum, she'll appreciate it too(she lives in syd and we call her "president mega pixel" - she is the president of the north shore camera club etc etc. You'll know the type! Can I ask if you did any touch ups, or is the pic as it was taken?

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Follow Up By: ExplorOz - David & Michelle - Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 12:55

Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 12:55
My guess is a very nice tripod was used too...

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Follow Up By: Member - extfilm (NSW) - Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 13:09

Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 13:09
No Tripod.
Picture is as it came off the camera. I do not ever make any adjustments of pictures I take.
HHHMMMM..... North shore camera club? I live on the north shore and I have thought about joining a camera club one of these days.
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Follow Up By: ExplorOz - David & Michelle - Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 13:25

Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 13:25
Impressive - hope I didn't offend you by suggesting otherwise, just jealous! Here's a link to the North Shore Camera Club in case you want to make contact -
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Follow Up By: ExplorOz - David & Michelle - Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 13:27

Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 13:27
link to camera club site

sorry I hit submit, instead of insert link! DOH

I note from the list of committee members that my Mum is no longer president - geeze see how slow news travels to WA!!

I recognise all the names of her friends however in the list. Some amazing talent there.

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Follow Up By: Member - extfilm (NSW) - Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 13:48

Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 13:48
No offence ever taken, very hard to offend me although I may answer my posts otherwise...... I don't mean to sound offended.
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 20:49

Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 20:49
I was going to ask Sandy if she was related - but I haven't run into her yet :-).
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Reply By: Member - Cocka - Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 23:54

Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 23:54
That's a well planned shot Peter. It will be interesting to see your 4th and final in the series now the 'limpics are over.
I bought a D200 when they first hit the market as I was going to Antarctica and had to be able to take shots as they happened . . . bl..dy hard to get a penguine to pose. Really happy. These cameras are just a powerful computer with a [good] lens on the front.
I, like you, don't do the photoshop thingy as it detracts from being a good photographer & turns you into an editor, although I will crop a pic if necessary.
I once went to an photo exhibition at a gallery and there was none of this "taken at 350s @ f18" business . . . . . they were all marked "digitally enhanced". Geez we are loosing the skills of the old masters - the living treasures.
My problem now is the inability to take the old happy snaps, I get a bit too fussy.
I liked your gallery, some nice pics there also.

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Follow Up By: Member - extfilm (NSW) - Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 00:21

Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 00:21
Hey Cocka,
One of my ambitions is to go to Antartica, have even applied to work there 3 times to no avail. They don't seem to need qualified motor mechanics that can operate excavators, bobcats, backhoes and can build roads. Oh well May just have to keep saving..... :)
I also scored one of the first D200's bought into Australia and because I had taken about 80 000 pics I needed an upgrade. Was going to go for the D300 but heard the 700 was coming out of course I had to upgrade.
I wasn't going to post these but u inspired me to. Now the games are over went down for the sunset tonight and here are a few results.

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Follow Up By: Member - extfilm (NSW) - Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 00:25

Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 00:25
Pressed submit instead of insert.....

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Have printed them out and they look awsome.
But they are still not what I am looking for at the moment. am hoping to get down there at 5am

Peter
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 08:20

Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 08:20
nick off Peter...
your making us jerks feel inadequate by showing us those ...:)))))
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Follow Up By: Member Jo (Bris) - Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 09:04

Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 09:04
Not quite what you are looking for at the moment...

Just add in the girls off your rig pic and you are good to go!!!!!!!
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Follow Up By: Member - extfilm (NSW) - Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 10:38

Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 10:38
Sunrise,

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Peter
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 10:40

Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 10:40
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Reply By: Member - Cocka - Tuesday, Sep 02, 2008 at 16:58

Tuesday, Sep 02, 2008 at 16:58
Hi Peter
I sent an email via the ExOz members profile address.
I was asking a Q about lenses . . . . did you get the email ???

Cheers
John
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Follow Up By: Member - extfilm (NSW) - Tuesday, Sep 02, 2008 at 17:29

Tuesday, Sep 02, 2008 at 17:29
Hi John,
No I have not recieved an email. Send one here
peter at extremefilm . com . au
Peter
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