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Submitted: Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 19:45
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Two words for all the inexperienced travellers when passing someone on the opposite side of on a dirt road.

Slow down.

If you don't loose your windscreen the person you just passed on the other side of the road probably did.

It was getting that bad I had to drive in the middle of the road to slow to make them slow,l 80 - 100 ks is ridiculous.

Knuckleheads.

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Reply By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 19:48

Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 19:48
I know what you mean, I got a few extra stars in the windscreen when we went to Innamincka.
I'll have to replace the windscreen soon before the anniversary for the insurance ;)

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Reply By: MickeyJ - Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 20:00

Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 20:00
Surely it's the speed YOU go that determines if you break a windscreen. I have broken a windscreen on the last three outback trips and its always been on the bitumen (My speed was 100+). Mostly road trains, with the last carriage slewing every where. Last one was a caravan pulling on to the road as I approached them on the highway. There is so much traffic on some of the dirt roads if you slow down to 20 KMh for every one you may as well ride a bicycle. We travel without trailers etc, so we can move along at a reasonable speed very comfortably. If you drive in the middle of the road, and some one crashes head on with you you will have a lot more to worry about than a few stone chips.
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Follow Up By: blue one - Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 20:04

Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 20:04
Road trains get off the road and let them go.

Caravans & trailers slow down or stay on the bitumen.
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Follow Up By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 20:07

Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 20:07
It is bleep s like you that cause the broken windscreens in the first place. If you slow down then there is less chance for stones to be launched by YOUR tyres.
Most of us go away to slow down not race along and miss the scenery.


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Follow Up By: blue one - Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 20:09

Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 20:09
Anyone else travelling in a 4wd should be considerate enough to think about their fellow travellers without worrying about the 10 minutes they will gain in a days drive.
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Follow Up By: Member - BUNDY BOY (WA) - Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 20:09

Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 20:09
MickeyJ
I have broken a windscreen on the last three outback trips and its always been on the bitumen (My speed was 100+)

well theres the reason why;;;
comeing from someone thats on the bitumen and the dirt ..all the time..SLOW DOWN ..if your on bitumen .and have to drop a wheel off the side .drop back to 60 even 40..and take your time..its safer and less headaches for everyone.....besides its a holiday whats ya hurry
Bundy
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Reply By: MickeyJ - Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 20:55

Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 20:55
The bitumen road I am talking about is posted at 110 or 130. (Stuart Highway or the road to Mt ISA). My main concern is that some one suggested stying in the middle of the road when some one is coming towards you on a dirt road. Not sure how that helps the situation. I usually slow down if there is loose gravel, but often the loose gravel is on the far sides, so if knuckleheads is in the middle of the road, then the car travelling towards him is in the really loose stone filled verge, and you will get covered in gravel. If however you both slow a little, but stay in the hard pack between the loose gravel, then no one gets rocks thrown at them. Most outback gravel roads have a pair of wheel tracks on both sides.

On single lanes of bitumen, I get right off in to the dirt, where possible to let the other vehicle stay on the bitumen. Always for Trucks and road trains.
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Follow Up By: blue one - Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 21:00

Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 21:00
Then what is the problem if you slow down.

The middle of the road is for the the 80 - 100k set as stated.
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Follow Up By: blue one - Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 21:03

Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 21:03
And usually slow down on a dirt road is not good enough.

Have some consideration for your fellow travellers and always slow when passing.
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Follow Up By: MickeyJ - Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 21:28

Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 21:28
In my opinion

-No one should stay in the middle of the road while a car is coming towards them
-If you stay in control of the car (No heavy braking, just back the throttle off), and stay in the hard packed gravel, you will throw less rocks around (Good mudflaps are probably important too)
-Unless you slow down very considerably ie both vehicles less than 20 Kmh you may still chip or break the windscreen if you are throwing rocks. (it's like punctures unpredicatble but annoying)
-In my experience the bitumen highways where there is blue metal every where, and speeds are always high, that you have the most chance of breaking the windscreen, and it is vehicles crossing off the "swept" line that cause the problems.

If you are travelling at 80 - 90 on a good outback road, with minimal rocks (Clay top) how much would you expect to slow down?

I have seen all types of reactions, and I prefer people to stay at a moderate speed, but watch where they are putting their wheels, as it is the dropping in to the loose gravel that causes the most problems.
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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 21:31

Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 21:31
MIckeyJ... I posted a similar post some weeks ago, On single lane outback roads, i always slowdown and move completely off the road to almost a stop.
i would think that any fool coming the other way would see that i am giving them the road for them to stay completely on so as no one gets any screen damage.. BUT !! yes, they still do 120kph past and leave the road 20 metres before they pass and shower us with rocks..and they get none in return. What can you do when you have thickheads sharing the raods with you?? Michael
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Reply By: Nutta - Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 21:11

Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 21:11
Dont seem to see those mesh windscreen protecters around like you did 30 years ago, ugly but no cracked windscreens!
Wonder if theyre still available anymore.

Cheers, Wayne

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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 21:28

Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 21:28
Hmmmm .... I've got one of those relics buried in the shed somewhere. It might still be useful :)))

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Follow Up By: Member - Madfisher - Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 12:46

Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 12:46
Must be still available, we have them on our work Isuzus, and they are only two years old.
Cheers Pete
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Reply By: Crackles - Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 21:31

Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 21:31
I suppose if you want to go somewhere & expect not to break a windscreen you could always slip down to Chadstone shopping centre but personally when I go on an outback trip I expect to lose a window each time. Would be great if everyone pased each other with a little less speed but that's not going to happen so I see no point winging. Instead take out glass insurance cover & fit a new screen each year.
I'm no longer fussed what speed others pass me at in fact my policy now is to pass others at the same speed they approach me at. If they approach at 20 kph I'll slow to that, if they stop for a chat so will I but if they are cruising at 110 well watch out, I'm not worried about the paint & my glass is insured :-))
Cheers Craig...........
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Follow Up By: MickeyJ - Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 21:53

Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 21:53
Hi Crackles,

I guess I live by much the same. New windscreen cost less then a tank of fuel, or one puncture. One of the reasons I like to travel outback, is for the challenging driving, and while I take every effort not to annoy other people many do not seem to understand what they are doing with their vehicles. I enjoy driving briskly, but still safely (I have the family in the car) and that is part of the adventure of the trip.
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Follow Up By: blue one - Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 22:03

Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 22:03
Then both of you two knuckleheads do us all a favour and stay in Chadstone.

Some of us can't afford glass insurance you mongrels
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 23:25

Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 23:25
Blue your windscreen has nothing to fear from Mick & I as we'll both slow down to your pace when passing ;-)
Cheers Craig............
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Reply By: Kroozer - Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 21:49

Monday, Aug 25, 2008 at 21:49
Tell ya what, if any bastard cruises past me and i get a smashed or badly chipped window i will be turning around and catching them and giving them one back. Fair is fair. Same rule applies when out fishing, Mackas Barra Camp on the lower Ord River in the Kimberleys are notorious for this. Lived up to there reputation just the other day, not once but twice. Both different boats with different skippers. Not sure how the punters felt but we were bleep .
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Follow Up By: Blaze - Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 02:29

Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 02:29
Kroozer, would have been interested if you would have done this on the GRR a few years back when we received a cracked window by a Yota doing about 110 to 120, middle of the road and flying past.

I did go and see the driver 3 days later when we arrives in Wyndham. He worked in the local Police Station. I informed him that he should have slowed down and moved over, and that I needed his ID to give my insurance company, but I think this is bit better way than the road rage of doing the U Turn and catching them.

Would feel sorry for you if you tried chasing me, on most tracks I'm on and can't see behind me, so you would end up with more than one chip in the window by the time you got past.

I think this whole post has missed the point... I have chipped windows now on every trip for last 6 years, sometimes 2 or 3 a year, a couple from my own front tyres throwing stones out in front of me. Others from vehicles passing at abt 50klm's per hr. Someone said above its a bit like punctures, you can take the precautions but cant stop it happening
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Follow Up By: Mark S (cns) - Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 09:06

Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 09:06
"if any bastard cruises past me and i get a smashed or badly chipped window i will be turning around and catching them and giving them one back..."

Typical redneck roadrage '2 wrongs gotta be betta than 1 wrong' attitude - Imagine the roads if we all had that attitude!
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Follow Up By: blue one - Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 11:34

Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 11:34
Blaze,
You have gone too early. Brush up on your reading skills mate. All I was asking people to do was to slow down. Nothing about eliminating stone chips. I would rather have a couple of stones rather than a shower produced by the F1 drivers.

I do a windscreen a year as I travel over 1000kms a week and the roads in NSW are pretty ordinary so I don't need your anecdotes..

I am surprised at the decline in consideration of the travelling public in recent times and I thought maybe they didn't understand what they were doing. Alas it seems like most of them do which is very disappointing. Its like that charity bash mob who landed in Innaminka the other week, 21 cars and 47 punctures. Ha go hard morons. Their problem was speed as they didn't even slow down in town.

Do us all a favour if you are in such a hurry stay on the bitumen.
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Follow Up By: Kroozer - Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 13:08

Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 13:08
Blue One, Good on ya mate.
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Follow Up By: Blaze - Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 13:50

Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 13:50
Blue,

If you want to can hassle me over my reading skills maybe you should do the same, if you take the time to read my remark it wasn’t addressed to you.

But I will address you now. If you do A WINDOW A YEAR doing 1000k's per week or 52,000k's per year on roads in NSW that you say are pretty ordinary, I think you have done a remarkable job.

I do drive at speeds appropriate to the conditions and traffic, and agree some people speed when passing, be that in the outback or the Southern Expressway. I also accept that some people don't have the time to drive around the country side at 50klm's per hr.

Some of the land owners that have us as so called tourists using their station tracks don’t have all day to get from point A to B, easies way is to do what I do and that is on most occasions pull to the side of the road and stop if that what it takes.
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Follow Up By: blue one - Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 18:02

Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 18:02
Fair enough,
Only 50k a year as I take 2 weeks holidays.

Cheers
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Reply By: Member - Bob of KAOS - Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 21:44

Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 21:44
Having just experienced many idiots driving flat out in the opposite direction (usually in someone elses car) on the Tanami, Kintore and Great Central Rds, I can conclude that no matter how slowly you go yourself if the other vehicle is flying they will toss stones up into the air and with an approach speed that may exceed the speed of the vehicle throwing it up.

If you slow to 60 kph then a stone thrown up by an oncoming vehicle hitting your window at 160 kph is going to do serious damage.

If you don't go so fast the stones don't get tossed nearly so high.
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