Question With 3 Way Fridge owners
Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 23:26
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unko
I have a question what do u do when you are passing through a town for for a 1 night stop over.
1. Do you just disconcet the fridge from the battery and hope it will stay cold??
2. Do u take it out and hook it up to gas
Reply By: ozwasp - Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 23:33
Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 23:33
1. If you're in a town you could plug it in
2. If power isn't an option, then you'd put it on gas
3. Or you could just leave it unplugged overnight. The things in it should stay cold enough (it's insulated). If you've got frozen perishable items in there, then you'd have to choose one of the other options above.
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Follow Up By: ozwasp - Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 23:42
Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 23:42
3 way fridges best use is where they are being used on gas for an extended period (2days or more).
Obviously they double up as a spare fridge at home, while running on 240V. I would say they are not designed to stay on 240V for an excessive period, as the heating elements are know to wear out - a week or two tops.
As mentioned in an earlier thread, Repco have a cheapie going at the moment:
Cheap 3 way fridge
Will.
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Follow Up By: alanrlow - Thursday, Aug 28, 2008 at 11:25
Thursday, Aug 28, 2008 at 11:25
Well Ozwasp I don't know about that so much. I have been living in my caravan traveling around Aust now for 10 years and the Electrolux RM2510 3 way fridge hasn't been turned off in all that time. Would probably spend half it's time on gas when in the bush and half on 240v when in town. 12v is a joke. Having said that I think the thermostat is playing up, it freezes everything now, but the elements are fine and not a big deal to replace anyway.
Cheers,
Alan.
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Follow Up By: oldtrack123 - Saturday, Aug 30, 2008 at 19:03
Saturday, Aug 30, 2008 at 19:03
Hi Alan
"12v is a joke."
If your fridge does not work as
well on 12v as 240v , I would suggest you check what voltage you are getting @ fridge terminals when running on 12v,.
Practically all problems with 12v op is due to inadequate wiring size ,giving excessive voltage loss.
I think you will probably find you are getting considerably less than 12v ,more likely10v or less.
At 10v you are loosing 30% of the element capacity, this is like trying running it on170v mains or only 70% gas pressure.
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Follow Up By: alanrlow - Sunday, Aug 31, 2008 at 22:53
Sunday, Aug 31, 2008 at 22:53
You know oldtrack123, in the last 10 years I've never run it on 12v, don't even know if it's hooked up to 12v but mates have had dreadful problems, worst of which was a flat battery after only a hour or 2 with engine off. My vans batteries have more important things to run. A 12v heater element is a very inefficient use of
battery power.
Cheers,
Alan.
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Follow Up By: oldtrack123 - Monday, Sep 01, 2008 at 16:40
Monday, Sep 01, 2008 at 16:40
Hi Alan
"but mates have had dreadful problems, worst of which was a flat battery after only a hour or 2 with engine off. My vans batteries have more important things to run. A 12v heater element is a very inefficient use of
battery power."
Alan I agree ANY heating off 12v [ including thru an inverter!!] is a waste of
battery power unless engine is running,IE on the road when it is generally not recommended to have fridge on gas , in case of accidents particularly in service stations.
Regarding flat bats when engine stopped ,I would not recommend running of 12v UNLESS fitted with either a motion relay or a relay tied in with ignition switch so only on when ig on
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Reply By: Hairs & Fysh (NSW) - Thursday, Aug 28, 2008 at 06:10
Thursday, Aug 28, 2008 at 06:10
Hi Unko,
I would plug
mine into 240v if it where available, if it wasn't I would defiantly pull it out and run it on gas. That way it has cooled down over night enough for another days travel on 12V.
I have a Chescold 50Lt, it's about 12 years old and that's the way I run
mine.
I just recently had the jet replaced and with it a service. Works a treat now. It serves us, a family of five very
well.
I also have a 65lt ice box just for drinks, manly beer :))
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Reply By: Ken S - Thursday, Aug 28, 2008 at 06:44
Thursday, Aug 28, 2008 at 06:44
Unko I have
mine in the back of the ute always connected to a gas bottle ( with the gas turned off ) running on 12v while travelling and when stopping for a night
park on a level surface turn gas bottle on and hit the ignition and your away . In the morning turn off gas but do not disconnect and plug in 12v and ur away . Works for me , also carry some packing blocks in case you cant get a level
park overnight .
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Reply By: Member - Brett- Thursday, Aug 28, 2008 at 14:04
Thursday, Aug 28, 2008 at 14:04
Unko
I have a Chescold fridge /freezer and always plug into gas or 240v when out of the vehicle on a trip.
Left it on the second battery one night in Catherine not thinkin' and woke up to a flat battery cause the fridge has such a big draw.
When it's at home it's always plugged into the 240v as my beer fridge. Best beer fridge I ever had.
Brett
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Follow Up By: Member - Brett- Thursday, Aug 28, 2008 at 14:08
Thursday, Aug 28, 2008 at 14:08
Forgot to mention.
If you get your butcher to cryovac your meat in meal size portions before you leave on the big trip, it only needs to stay cool to keep fresh so leaving it off power over night shouldn't matter.
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Reply By: unko - Thursday, Aug 28, 2008 at 14:06
Thursday, Aug 28, 2008 at 14:06
I have a chescold 50L havent used it yet. Doing a test tonight ill turn it off at 5pm and i will see when the temp is in the morning. im hoping it get down by then to about 4 dec.
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Follow Up By: Member - sdr00y (Beecroft) - Saturday, Aug 30, 2008 at 17:40
Saturday, Aug 30, 2008 at 17:40
When you test it, don't test it empty. Fridges are not designed to cool air enclosed in the fridge. They are designed to cool the contents of the fridge. Test it by putting some bottles of
water in it. Measure the temperature of the
water once it has cooled. Testing the air temperature is not a correct measure of the fridge's capabilities.
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Reply By: Member - Cocka - Thursday, Aug 28, 2008 at 20:50
Thursday, Aug 28, 2008 at 20:50
99% of the answers above are all correct in most forms. What you finally do will depend on your setup - how easy it is to get the fridge out to put it on gas . . . . . I know you wouldn't think of connecting the gas in the vehicle, that would be suicidal.
Ambient temps affect the deciding factors and depending what you keep in the fridge and for how long. If outside temps fall below 10deg you could probably just turn it off. If temps get lower than 6 deg definitely just turn it off.
Anyone wanting to improve 12v performance, I strongly recommend getting a small 12v computer fan (see DickSmiths or Jcar), they're about 100mm square, take the back off the fridge and install it into the 12v wiring with the fan blowing up through the condensors.
Leave the windows open a tad to expel any warm air. Cool air flow across the vanes will double the efficiency of the 12v system. Protect the fridge from suns rays also, shield the windows by cutting that windscreen silver reflective stuff to size.
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Reply By: motor_head - Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 20:49
Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 20:49
Hi unko, ok i'm no expert on this topic and of course take all other reply's into consideration, it really depends on your situation ie: how often you use it and how often do you have 1 night stop overs etc, is it worth getting a dual battery system installed?? another option is to buy one of them jump start packs (just plug it into the pack over night) and it can also be used to recharge phones and camera's etc or jump start your vehicle and are fairly cheap these days, it should last a couple of days running a fridge but a 3way does run much better on gas as you probably know, i use a thumper pack from arb which is basically a versitile second battery and jump start pack all in one but is fairly expensive.....hope this helps.
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Follow Up By: oldtrack123 - Saturday, Aug 30, 2008 at 18:47
Saturday, Aug 30, 2008 at 18:47
Hi
3way fridges typically draw at least 10 amps ,some continuously.Your bat while not last even overnight
Frequent discharging a bat below 50% will dramatically shorten it's life
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