Mickey T's Baja ATZ V's Cooper ATR's for LC100

Just wondering why you would change from Bridgestone mate. I know its totally your decision but what has made you wanna change?

Oh No !

Here we go again !

Bloody tyre debate, debacle !

Bucky

I've had a good run with Cooper tyres. Have used ATR and ST. In my experience ATR are a better road tyre, lower noise, a bit better milage. Pretty good off road, but don't 'self clean' in in mud.

ST are a much better off road tyre, particularly in mud / wet ground and rocks, but noiser on bitumen.

Have not use Mikey T's, but many in the local 4WD Club have and they are well regarded.

In case you were not aware, Mikey Thompson is a Cooper Brand. This is from the Cooper tyres web site:
'Cooper currently has 9 proprietary brands: Cooper, Mastercraft, Dean, Starfire, Avon, Dominator, Mickey Thompson, Dick Cepek, Chengshan and Austone'.

Cooper (the corporation) has manufacturing facilities in USA, Europe and Asia (including China). So ,yes some tyres are made in China. But I suspect that is true of most brands these days.

Not a matter of country of manufacture, but of quality control and process.

On the new 4B, I went for BFG AT. As much as anything to give them a try. I've never used them before.

Norm C

I have the ATZ's on my Prado. They are very quiet and have very good grip in the wet and dry, on road and off. I was worried about how they would be in the wet as my wife drives the Prado most of the time, but she tested them out within the first couple of days and was very happy with them.

The one thing I don't like is that the side walls really bag out a lot when I lower pressures. I have had one sidewall puncture that I believe is due to this.

Mine are only small size 225/75R16 so performance in the larger size for you cruiser may be different.

Ando

Andrew,

just got new rims put on my 100 series and had the old fella who owns my local tyre place ( 25yrs in Margaret River) to measure wear on my ATR's . 45 000 km's and he recons 70/75% tread left!
all my off roading is in the SW ( N.P and beach). so I am happy with the wear.
he hates coopers and swears by BF Goodridge. he sells them to all the farmers in the area. 20 years plus in OZ tried and tested he recons!

I asked him about Micky Thomsons and he just grunted and said they are another US big brand trying to get a slice of the 4wd tyre sector, and they should stick to making racing tyres.

if your keen on Coopers, look at Eldorardo, they are made by Coopers but a heap cheaper!

Only just fitted ATZ's myself so no off road comment but nice on the road. Surprisingly quiet.
Cheers Paul

G'day,

I currently drive a standard 100 series (105 series) fitted with Cooper ATRs (235/85/16). They have done 69,000 km now and still look to have enough meat left on them to go through to about 100,000km.

The tyres fitted new when I bought the vehicle (Dunlop "Volley" Roadgrippers) got 45,00km and the next set after them got 50,00km. You get what you pay for, I got em cheap.

I then went back to the Coopers, like I had on my old truck.

My truck is fitted with a steel bullbar, scrub bars, towbar, _Affordable_Storage_Drawers.aspx, water tank, winch, dual batts, roof rack etc,etc so it is probably heavier than alot of other vehicles out there. I should also note that about 10,000-12,000 km were towing a 800kg trailer with plenty of that being on dirt.

The Coopers have seen plenty of dirt/corrugations but not much in the way of serious rock. There are plenty stories out there about Cooper's "chipping" or "lugging". I'm unsure if this is more related to the ST, STT and STC models though. I'm sure others out there can correct me if this is not the case.

Previously I had two sets of the older ATs on my old rig which saw plenty of hard use including rock and I had a good run out of both sets. Not even a bloody puncture, touch wood!

Keep in mind they are only an AT tyre so I doubt people are ever going to rave about them in the mud. Noise levels are OK in my opinion.

When living up in the Territory I must admit I did find them a little skittish in heavy downpours (even compared to the "volleys"!) when on the bitumen. This is something I have also heard said by a few others now.

Cheers,
Roo.

Andrew

Had a set of Cooper ATR's, on our Navara, and had 110,000 km when I sold the vehicle, to a bloke just down the road.

Tough as hell, never had a puncture, except when I picked up a nail from the floor of my shed one day.

I did trips up into the desert..chopped up a little, but still had another 30,000 left in them..


Now the downside,,,...

Rough as hell to ride in.
Pulls to the left, , no matter what was done, but in qualifying that, should I say they would "tramlining" road contours, evenly, no matter what the camber was like.......(back to Tyre Dealer 6 times)
Absolutely no help from Mr Cooper, kept telling me it was not the tyre..
Chunks fly off them.


Would not go back to them, and can't wait to get the ST's off our Patrol, but they are good in the mud.

Mickey T's are a left handed Cooper ?

Will get BFG's

Cheers
Bucky

I had MT Dick Cepek FC II's on a LC100 IFS - Did nearly 100,000ks in them and still had at least 15,000ks when I took them off.

Took them outback up Oodnadatta Track and over the Simpson etc..

Did loose a couple of chuncks.

My major issue with them was that they started to delaminate at 90,000ks but I'm not 100% sure that wasn't to do with how I treated them.