Unstakeable Tyres?...Maybe.........................

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I was in Port Augusta today and amongst other things looking for some new tyres as 3 of my 'old' MRF Super Traction tyres are showing some wear.

Came up with this lot. It is a discontinued brand of MRF and the fella behind the counter said they were 14 ply so I thought..."Yeah, that should be OK". When I got home I saw that they are 16 ply. Now that might give too hard a ride but they should definitely give the mulga stakes a good go. Time will tell.

MRF Super Lug 7.50x16 16ply inluding MRF Tube = $155each

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Reply By: On Patrol & TONI - Wednesday, Sep 03, 2008 at 17:53

Wednesday, Sep 03, 2008 at 17:53
Willem
they would look good on a BMW x5 or a Toe-rag etc, just the thing to pull a 747 down a runway maybe.LOL
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Reply By: Member - Mick O (VIC) - Wednesday, Sep 03, 2008 at 18:01

Wednesday, Sep 03, 2008 at 18:01
Could I borrow one Willem! I'm a stake magnet at the moment!
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Follow Up By: Willem - Wednesday, Sep 03, 2008 at 19:10

Wednesday, Sep 03, 2008 at 19:10
Mick

I will have a few as spares soon. Ofcourtse you can borrow some...lol



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Reply By: Nutta - Wednesday, Sep 03, 2008 at 18:37

Wednesday, Sep 03, 2008 at 18:37
They look like theyd suit a forklift, like solid rubber, rippers!
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Reply By: Crackles - Wednesday, Sep 03, 2008 at 18:54

Wednesday, Sep 03, 2008 at 18:54
Will be interesting to hear how they go in the sand Willem. With such stiff side walls I couldn't imagine they will bag out too well. What sort of KM's did you get out of the old MRF's?
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Follow Up By: Willem - Wednesday, Sep 03, 2008 at 19:09

Wednesday, Sep 03, 2008 at 19:09
Hi Craig

I am up to 40,000km on the old ones. Probably about 5000 left on three and 10,000 on two.

I have learned that you have to change them around about every 3000km

Yes, it will be interesting to see how these 16 ply tyres fare. I have seen prospectors in the Pilbara run 16 ply Chinese tyres in the rough stuff. Yes they do give a hard ride but are very good in the rocky and turpentine country. They may even be better in sand due to less traction in the centre of the tyre whereas my Super Tractions dug in like a traxcavator....lol

I am planning some serious off track stuff over the next two years so will need 'stakeproof' tyres


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Follow Up By: Crackles - Wednesday, Sep 03, 2008 at 19:19

Wednesday, Sep 03, 2008 at 19:19
That's excellent milage from a rag tyre. Got to be happy with that. Ran the Custom Extra Grip & Triple Traction rags for years. Great in the mud but usuable tread didn't last us much more than 30,000km. At 16 ply they should almost be bullet proof :-) Good pickup.
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Yalgoo) - Wednesday, Sep 03, 2008 at 20:07

Wednesday, Sep 03, 2008 at 20:07
Youll be surprised how far the MRFs go I got 10,000 (approx) out of mine and they were bald in the centre when i got them
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Follow Up By: Austravel - Wednesday, Sep 03, 2008 at 20:36

Wednesday, Sep 03, 2008 at 20:36
I didn't think the ply rating made much if any difference to the side wall strength. The 16 ply relates to the contact/rolling surface which does wrap around to the leading edge of the side wall. I thought side walls were normally all 2-3 ply. Maybe totally wrong and wouldn't doubt it as know bugger all about tyres. Just recall being told this by a tyre salesman, said if the side walls were any more than 2-3 ply you'd never handle the ride. Got a feeling though that some rag tyres had 4-6 in the side wall.

Feel free to correct me if wrong.
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Yalgoo) - Wednesday, Sep 03, 2008 at 21:07

Wednesday, Sep 03, 2008 at 21:07
The super tractions Willem was running were from memory 4 ply sidewalls and those super Lugs pictured are a 6 ply sidewall........................
Ive put MRF tyres and Goodyear MTR tyres down the exact same track

with the difference being MTR 3 sidewall puntures and 2 wrecked tyres
MFR no problems so id say even the number of plys has less to do with the construction of those plys
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Reply By: Splits - Wednesday, Sep 03, 2008 at 20:03

Wednesday, Sep 03, 2008 at 20:03
Willem

I think that salesman should pay more attention to the catalogue. It looks like that size only comes in one ply rating according to the MRF export site.

7.50 - 16 16 6.0G 212 825 18.0 1580@7.75

Geez, 16 ply, 18 mm tread depth and a maximum load of 1580 kg. I think there will be a few very sorry stakes out there when those things roll over them.

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Follow Up By: Willem - Thursday, Sep 04, 2008 at 11:04

Thursday, Sep 04, 2008 at 11:04
Brian

I am going to the Flinders Ranges in 10 days time so will fit the tyres and see how they behave and will report back.




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Reply By: Member - Davoe (Yalgoo) - Wednesday, Sep 03, 2008 at 20:04

Wednesday, Sep 03, 2008 at 20:04
Thats a great buy Ilast priced them in 06 for $180.
they were used alot by Barminco underground.
I did however see one hanging off the back of a troopy with a huge tear through the sidwall............... However Barminco are rough on gear
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Follow Up By: Willem - Thursday, Sep 04, 2008 at 11:02

Thursday, Sep 04, 2008 at 11:02
Davoe

Apparently the price of all MRF tyres went up on Sept 1. Was quote $190 for Super Milers without a tube from another tyre dealer.



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Reply By: Member - DAZA (QLD) - Wednesday, Sep 03, 2008 at 20:30

Wednesday, Sep 03, 2008 at 20:30
Hi Willem

I had a set of Tyres with Similar Tread Pattern, some years back on
a Jeep we used when we worked on Pipe Line Easements, you
could never wear them out, but they were Noisy on the Bitumen.

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Reply By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Wednesday, Sep 03, 2008 at 21:05

Wednesday, Sep 03, 2008 at 21:05
MMMM! I can smell that new rubber from here!! Michael
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Reply By: Member - Axle - Wednesday, Sep 03, 2008 at 21:23

Wednesday, Sep 03, 2008 at 21:23
Christ Willem!!, the only thing to come near them as far as un stakeable goes, UMMMM!!, let me think, The tyres on Freddy Flintstones Wagon....LOL..... Must be a serious trip on the agenda, Keep at it While the goings good!.


Cheers Axle.

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Reply By: Richard Kovac - Wednesday, Sep 03, 2008 at 21:56

Wednesday, Sep 03, 2008 at 21:56
Even Len got stakes on the 17K (No. 12).
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Reply By: troopyman - Thursday, Sep 04, 2008 at 09:29

Thursday, Sep 04, 2008 at 09:29
16 ply forklift tyres Hahahahahaha . Awesome tyres for what you want to do LOL .
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Reply By: Rod W - Thursday, Sep 04, 2008 at 10:49

Thursday, Sep 04, 2008 at 10:49
How often is a tyre staked throught the tread. More often than not it will be through the side wall as has been mentioned above.
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Follow Up By: Willem - Thursday, Sep 04, 2008 at 11:00

Thursday, Sep 04, 2008 at 11:00
Normal tubeless radials are 2-3ply on the sidewall. These are 6 ply.

I did stake one of the Super Tractions(4ply in sidewall) this year in the Great Sandy Desert on an exposed bit of Gidgee at the bottom of a dune. But tyre is still in use with new tube ofcourse. The Super Tractions have done around 2000km off track over past two years with only the one puncture. A good result.


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Reply By: Member - MUZBRY (VIC) - Thursday, Sep 04, 2008 at 12:19

Thursday, Sep 04, 2008 at 12:19
Gday Willem
You must remember that in this high tech world "steaks" are getting longer,tougher , stronger and sharper for the same price.There is no guarantee with them.
You can also return and puncture the other tyre free of charge on the way back.
I hope all goes well with the new tyres.
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Reply By: Member - Paul B (WA) - Thursday, Sep 04, 2008 at 19:18

Thursday, Sep 04, 2008 at 19:18
Great for off-road/track/everything. Not so great if you want to drive down the highway in a straight line tho! Good luck with em Willem.

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Follow Up By: Willem - Thursday, Sep 04, 2008 at 19:27

Thursday, Sep 04, 2008 at 19:27
I know, Paul

Give me a 285 x 16 x 8 tubeless 16 ply tread and 6 ply sidewall and I will sell the house to buy them.

Tyres are always a compromise. What you gain in the bush you lose on the bitumen and vice versa.


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Reply By: Steve - Thursday, Sep 04, 2008 at 22:11

Thursday, Sep 04, 2008 at 22:11
These are a great buy ..but they are not Radial cross ply tyres ..as i see from the photo...

But you know all this so why do you ask info on this Forum ?
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Yalgoo) - Thursday, Sep 04, 2008 at 22:27

Thursday, Sep 04, 2008 at 22:27
Too much to drink?
never head of a radial crossply and the post contained no question requiring info
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Follow Up By: Willem - Friday, Sep 05, 2008 at 07:56

Friday, Sep 05, 2008 at 07:56
Steve

I will be gentle with you.

Just in case you are unaware. This Forum has been designed so that you may ask a question. But you may also make a statement or tell jokes or make up stories, though the New Thread still says: Ask a Question

There is no such thing as a Radial Crossply. It is either a Radial tyre or a Crossply tyre. Radial tyres normally have layers of steel in their make-up while Crossply tyres have Nylon layers.


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