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Submitted: Wednesday, Sep 03, 2008 at 19:26
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Hi all,

I'm planning a camping trip at Greenpatch Jervis Bay in February and I haven't been camping since I was a kid. At the moment we are looking at buying all the equipment - we don't have anything yet. Greenpatch is a non powered camping ground but has showers etc.

My first and most important question for all you experts is what sort of tent should I get? I've read a few forums, lots rave about the Jackeroo 8 - 12 manners or the Stockman, both of which can be found at Kmart. (Who are having a big sale at the moment) and then some say I'd be mad to go to Kmart. We won't be camping a lot - maybe a couple of times a year - and don't want to spend a fortune, but do want something reliable.

I'd love any advice you can give me.
Thanks, Tam.
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Reply By: Hairs & Fysh (NSW) - Wednesday, Sep 03, 2008 at 19:56

Wednesday, Sep 03, 2008 at 19:56
Hi Tam,
Your a lost cause now. You've been bitten, It will start with out a tent, you'll do that once or twice. You'll look at what others have, talk to a few people add up the costs and next you'll be towing something behind you.
To be honest the journey never really ends. ;-) There is always something else you what or need.
But having said that, you've come to the right place.
How many of you is there to cater for?
Borrow equipment if you can from friends or relatives, Saves buying something if it doesn't work out.
If your buying a tent first up, invest in a good tarp to go over it and one that you can use down the track. We did some 6 years ago and we still have that tarp as a backup/spare.
I'm sure others will have more to offer.

Have fun :)
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Reply By: Tam1175 - Wednesday, Sep 03, 2008 at 20:14

Wednesday, Sep 03, 2008 at 20:14
Ha, Thanks Jon.

I had figured I was a bit of a lost cause, I've been doing my partners head in talking camping day and night. It hit me a couple of weeks ago when the delicious spring weather teased. I flashed back to happy family days at green patch about 25 years ago. It's pretty much the same there now, just a few bridges, ramps and rules added.

It will just be the two of us, and I have had a few offers from friends in the know to borrow from their selection, I would like to get our own stuff though. I am definitely borrowing from their experience though. What food to take and not take, how to pack it etc. Every time I've been camping there has always been someone else to look after all the cooking and cleaning, I've only had to worry about the relaxing and well, the relaxing. Now I'll be the boss! Its a big job!

Thanks for the advice Jon, I had noticed a few people putting another tarp over their tent. Sounds like a lock in.
Cheers, Tam.
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Reply By: garrycol - Wednesday, Sep 03, 2008 at 20:26

Wednesday, Sep 03, 2008 at 20:26
I hope you have already booked into the site - it is very popular and is normally booked well in advance.

Garry
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Follow Up By: Tam1175 - Wednesday, Sep 03, 2008 at 20:43

Wednesday, Sep 03, 2008 at 20:43
Hi Garry,

Yep I've called them, they only take bookings at a max of 4 months in advance so I have to call back in October. We're planning to go in February after the school hols are over. You have to go into a ballot for the period of the actual school hols but after that it quietens down a bit. I'll still definitely book as soon as I can though!

Thanks Garry.
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Reply By: Hairs & Fysh (NSW) - Wednesday, Sep 03, 2008 at 20:59

Wednesday, Sep 03, 2008 at 20:59
Hi Tam,
Here are a few links that might help you.

Travel & Camping

australian camper trailer manufacturers

Or confuse you?

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Reply By: Louie the fly (SA) - Wednesday, Sep 03, 2008 at 21:48

Wednesday, Sep 03, 2008 at 21:48
What sort of tent depends on your needs - # in family, cook inside or out, etc. We took a Taj Mahal of a tent to the Coorong once thinking that everything being inside was a good idea. Blew a gale down there and so the thing was an absolute B and took 2 hours to put up. And all those poles - what a PITA. I spat it several times. When we got home I gave it back to my mate I borrowed it off and told him to stick it up his quoit. LOL I would suggest that you go to a camping store to look at tents as they have a good range (generally) and the people know about what they are selling.

We bought a canvas centre pole tent (OzTrail Tourer 9 Plus) with extended back. Up in 5 minutes. All we do in the tent is sleep, everything else is outside. As Hairs said, you do get bitten by the camping bug. Next thing for us is some swags so we can rough it. We camp with very few luxuries. One bonus of the big tents is you can set up your camp shower inside the front and have a bit of privacy.
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Reply By: Gunna Do - Thursday, Sep 04, 2008 at 03:51

Thursday, Sep 04, 2008 at 03:51
Tam1175,

My advice would be to buy the best quality tent you can afford. We did this about eight years ago and ended up buying a Freedom Tourer Tent. Bit expensive at the time, but when you are out camping and it pours with rain and you don't have to worry about a tarp over it to stay dry or if it blows a gale and you don't have to worry all night if the tent will be in one piece in the morning then this bit extra money is money well spent.

Tarps are a good thing, but they are just something else you have to carry, set up and pack up. During windy conditions they also can cause problems flapping themselves to bits.

At the end of the day it comes down to dollars, buy the best quality you can afford. Good luck with your decision.
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Follow Up By: Hairs & Fysh (NSW) - Thursday, Sep 04, 2008 at 06:53

Thursday, Sep 04, 2008 at 06:53
Gunna Do,

Your dead right, Always buy the best you can afford. Doesn't matter what it is. Buy right the first time and it will serve you well for many years.
When it comes to tarps, yes they will cause problem 'If' not erected properly.
Easter 05 was our Baptism of Fire with storms. We just started to camp again after not doing it for quiet a few years, We were with some good mates at Evans Head and we had two storms that that left us wondering 'wtf'. We where in ankle deep hail after one storm, A lot packed up and shot through. We had three kids under 5, We had a blast.
What helped was that both Mark and my self drive trucks, so we knew how to tie down properly.
I believe this is the trick to tarps. Not to Big, Anchor properly and make them as tort as you possibly can.
We've never had a problem with ours, knock, knock touch wood. :)
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Reply By: Outa Bounds - Thursday, Sep 04, 2008 at 10:03

Thursday, Sep 04, 2008 at 10:03
Just having sold our camper trailer, we will have to foray into the world of tent camping. The off road camper was no longer suitable for our new car etc etc.

Anyway we're thinking probably going for two 3 man hiking tents (like DMH Derwent or similar) The two kids can sleep in one and we can sleep in the other. I know those sort of tents are pretty light to carry (compared to the center pole variety - it was something like 16kg, and if not for the huge bulk and weight probably would have got one of the Oztrail or Primus brands). The hiking tents also only have two poles so should be quick and easy to put up, plus the kids can carry them on school camps when they're old enough.

I agree that the best thing is to go to camping store (BCF has a lot set up). Have a look and consider the designs you like, price, and think about how easy it will be to put up, also the packaged size / weight if it matters to you.

Like some of you have said I'll be trying to convince Hubby to get a tarp to put up so we can cook under etc, but he seems to think that those gazebo things are a good idea? I don't like the gazebo idea but anyone tried it? Personally I figured putting up a tarp would be no harder than putting up the camper awning!
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Reply By: Tam1175 - Thursday, Sep 04, 2008 at 10:55

Thursday, Sep 04, 2008 at 10:55
Thanks everyone for your replies, I'm so glad I found this site. I nearly bought the Jackeroo on sale this morning but figured I'd hold out until I've been to a camping store. I would definitely rather spend the money and not have to survive a night in the elements with a wet tent sagging down around me! My problem is I'm so excited I want it now! Ha, I'll wait and get something good. I'm sure once I have the tent sorted I'll be back here asking more questions, and I'll keep watching the forum for hints on things I'm sure I haven't even thought of yet.

Thanks again guys.
Tam.
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Follow Up By: Outa Bounds - Thursday, Sep 04, 2008 at 14:59

Thursday, Sep 04, 2008 at 14:59
You're a bit like my husband, once he's got a bee in his bonnet he's got to get it right away, whereas I like to do research and make sure we're buying a good product.

This is how I see it:

Family camping, once or twice a year, staying in one spot for a week or more, then you can consider the KMart type thing, or those big dome tents from the camping store, it will take a while to put up (from what I hear - never had one) but once it's up you have heaps of space.

If you're setting up camp every night (say your yearly trip is to a destination that requires a fair bit of driving and overnight stops) then you would want to consider the touring tents, they are heavy but very quick to put up (like OzTent (you need a roof rack) Black Wolf Turbo, or Southern Cross - and Oztrail Tourer 9 for the budget version).

Otherwise like us if you see tents really mainly being used to sleep in then consider the more compact versions, small dome or hikers - although the lighter weight hiking tents do cost more than your average dome.

Lol it's a bit of a contradiction, we're looking at the two hiking tents as well as a couple of those double 4wd sleeping air/foam matresses as they seem comfy!
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Reply By: Member RayJen Paj05 (NSW) - Thursday, Sep 04, 2008 at 16:03

Thursday, Sep 04, 2008 at 16:03
Tam, we went to Greenpatch 2 yrs ago. Should be called 'Blackpatch'. Nice as it is, be aware the 'sand' is black and makes everything it touches filthy and, it seems, permanently stained. Our camper canvas annexe is still stained everywhere it touched the 'sand' when being put up and taken down; I'd suggest a large base tarp, always good anyway, anywhere for tent campers to minimise sand in the tent/bed.

Cheers, RayJen
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Follow Up By: Tam1175 - Friday, Sep 05, 2008 at 00:11

Friday, Sep 05, 2008 at 00:11
Thanks RayJen thats some great advice, I vaguely remember that black stuff from when I was a kid though I don't remember it being too bad. Maybe because I didn't have to deal with it. We'll be going down soon for the day to check it out so I'll make sure i keep an eye out for it.

cheers Tam.
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Reply By: Bagwon - Thursday, Sep 04, 2008 at 20:53

Thursday, Sep 04, 2008 at 20:53
Hi Tam Im a old codger,we bought a oztent rv4.30 seconds to put up,great tent in wet weather.well worth spending a bit more and get something that does the job. fitted inside the nisson with a rear seat down.

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Follow Up By: Tam1175 - Friday, Sep 05, 2008 at 00:36

Friday, Sep 05, 2008 at 00:36
Hi Bagwon,

Thanks that is actually the way I am leaning, I definitely want something that can handle the weather and easy to put up would be an added bonus. I was looking into how big they are when packed up as I only have a sedan but if they fit in your nissan then there may be hope for me with the seats down. I guess it depends if you're talking pajero or skyline though!

Tam.
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Reply By: Bagwon - Friday, Sep 05, 2008 at 17:49

Friday, Sep 05, 2008 at 17:49
HI Tam,Sorry i should have put nisson patrol.grab a tape measure and see how much length room you have.the Oztent is 2 mtrs long.realy great tent if you have room.

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