soft or hard tyres outback
Submitted: Thursday, Sep 11, 2008 at 22:11
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Member - nigel P (NSW)
The weight of opinion seems to be for soft, but some say hard to reduce area in puncture/ staking conditions. If soft, what pressure?
Nigel
Reply By: Member - Mick O (VIC) - Thursday, Sep 11, 2008 at 22:23
Thursday, Sep 11, 2008 at 22:23
Nige,
it's all about the side walls.
Yea and verily the bible doeth sayeth...let your tyres down! Any real damage is going to come through the sides of the tyres. Most tyres these days, regardless of creed, have a sh1t-load of steel belts that only the most treacherous of stakes could penetrate. Your best
tools are your eye's, caution and taking the tracks slow!
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Cheers. Mick
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Follow Up By: Member - Mick O (VIC) - Thursday, Sep 11, 2008 at 22:26
Thursday, Sep 11, 2008 at 22:26
Or this.......and it's the same friggin tyre 2 weeks earlier!
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Thursday, Sep 11, 2008 at 22:56
Thursday, Sep 11, 2008 at 22:56
I have a few photos that match that!
The answer is .. .NEVER use Cooper tyres off road!
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic) - Thursday, Sep 11, 2008 at 22:57
Thursday, Sep 11, 2008 at 22:57
Anyone who has the white writing to the outside deserves that Mick. LMAO
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Follow Up By: Moose - Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 13:28
Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 13:28
So Mick O which are you admitting to - not using your eyes, lacking caution or driving too fast? :-)
In that first shot do I see 2 stakes? - there appears to be a little one a few inches up from the big one.
And in the second one you demonstrate just how tough Cooper tyres can be - bloody big stick through the side and it's still inflated!
Cheers from the Moose
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 16:51
Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 16:51
Not wanting to seem politically incorrect, but the doctors said that Steve Irwin would have lived, if he had left the barb IN his heart.
Sorry, but of the all the things Cooper tyres may or not be, tough certainly isn't one of them!
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Follow Up By: Member - Mick O (VIC) - Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 19:17
Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 19:17
Moose.
It's only one stake. The top photo shows the end of the plug that fixed the hole caused in Photo 2. I never buy into the tyre debate because I could wreck a tyre of any make..lol.
Cheers Mick
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Reply By: Eric Experience - Thursday, Sep 11, 2008 at 22:39
Thursday, Sep 11, 2008 at 22:39
Nigel.
If you have any concerns about letting your tyres down do a simple experiment. Get hold of a wheel and tyre that is worn out and inflate it to 20 lbs, then hit it with a pick or wood splitter, then inflate it to 50 lbs and hit it again with the same force. you will notice a big difference. Eric.
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Follow Up By: Moose - Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 13:19
Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 13:19
Hey Eric - I like that method of proving that lower pressure = less likelihood of punctures heaps better than the usual balloon analogy that others regularly trot out.
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Reply By: Member - Footloose - Thursday, Sep 11, 2008 at 22:42
Thursday, Sep 11, 2008 at 22:42
I hate to sound negative, but have you searched the archives ? There is more info than you can poke a stick at :)))))
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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Thursday, Sep 11, 2008 at 22:44
Thursday, Sep 11, 2008 at 22:44
Yer good on ya truckster... :-)
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Follow Up By: Member - Mick O (VIC) - Thursday, Sep 11, 2008 at 22:46
Thursday, Sep 11, 2008 at 22:46
Cruel Footy.....but fair! The stick reference hurt but! :-)
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Follow Up By: Member - Footloose - Thursday, Sep 11, 2008 at 22:53
Thursday, Sep 11, 2008 at 22:53
I don't know how many times this topic comes up but it's a heck of a lot. Everyone has their own personal experiences to draw on, and hence there is no "one" answer.
But don't you blokes get sick of the same questions ?
I was far more polite than truckster, Richard.
And Mick...I can sympathize. It was intentional :)))
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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Thursday, Sep 11, 2008 at 22:58
Thursday, Sep 11, 2008 at 22:58
Yer I know :-))
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic) - Thursday, Sep 11, 2008 at 22:59
Thursday, Sep 11, 2008 at 22:59
F'loosie, it is all because the white writing is to the outside and the driver was showing off his Coopers.
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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Thursday, Sep 11, 2008 at 22:59
Thursday, Sep 11, 2008 at 22:59
But I must say I would rather read this than a post about cane toad's.. ;-(
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Follow Up By: Member - Footloose - Thursday, Sep 11, 2008 at 23:01
Thursday, Sep 11, 2008 at 23:01
Never heard of flat tyres due to running over cane toads ?
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Follow Up By: Member - Footloose - Thursday, Sep 11, 2008 at 23:03
Thursday, Sep 11, 2008 at 23:03
John, that brand is probably a good drink, a decent
creek, and a good kids name. But a decent tyre...I don't think so ! :))
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Reply By: Cape York Connections - Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 06:22
Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 06:22
I always air down when on dirt.
For what pressure for me depends on load.
I run Maxxis bighorns 32 x 11.5 x 16 in the cape 20psi front and 24 rear.
If travelling the oddnadata track it would be 24 front and about 28-30 rear as I said above depends on load.
On lower pressures I never travel over 80kph.
All the best
Eric
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Reply By: RobAck - Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 18:11
Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 18:11
Nigel the answer really depends on what you mean by outback. If you are travelling the Oodnadatta/Birdsvile/Strazlecki etc then 26 psi or thereabouts is the norm for all our vehicles regardless of weight and tyre type. We also run 26 psi in the Flinders on all the tracks as this allows you a softer footprint which offers more grip and so less wheel spin therefore you are not damaging the tracks as much
The Simpson starts at 20 psi and we can normally sustain that or 18 psi for most of the trip. Although if we are on the French Line and it is really soft then 16 psi is the go
About the only rule that is constant is that there is no such thing as a puncture proof tyre
As
well when you lower your tyre pressures you lower your speed otherwise you will significantly increase the risk of a puncture
Regards
RobA
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