Helena Spring ...Great Sandy Desert
Submitted: Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 07:33
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Willem
The turn off to Helena Springs lies between
Well 41 and
Well 42 on the
canning Stock Route. From there it is about 90km to this Tea Tree soak
Who has been out there recently?
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Extract from my website:
In October 1896 explorer David Carnegie was shown this spring by an aboriginal guide. Here he and his expedition partners spent a leisurely 5 days recuperating and washing their clothes. Carnegie named this spring after his sister Helena. He called it the 'Diamond of
the Desert'. Such a vivid description prompted me to seek out this place as I would pass this way but once.
Visitors to this place
Carnegie Historical Expedition 1982
Peter Vernon of
Melbourne 1992
Myself and Judith 1994
ExplorOz Member Equinox 2002
Cheers
Reply By: downtools - Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 08:53
Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 08:53
Morning Willem,
Fasinating area I hope to visit one day.
Pardon my ignorance, why would you be filling in the spring?
Looking forward to your next instalment.
Cheers Neville
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Follow Up By: Willem - Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 09:09
Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 09:09
G'day Neville
The 'spring' is a
Native Well from ancient times dug out of the
limestone hidden beneath the surface of the sand. I dug down until the
water seeped through.
The reason for filling it in again is that wildlife may come along and contaminate the
water by either dying there (falling in) or fouling the hole with droppings.
Cheers
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Reply By: Miss Jo - Toad Keeper (Bris) - Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 10:29
Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 10:29
I'm a sponge Willem teach me!!!!
I have added your website to my favourites, I shall do some light reading!
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Follow Up By: Miss Jo - Toad Keeper (Bris) - Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 10:39
Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 10:39
Oh and ummm.... I prefer your Grand Pooh Baah title!
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Follow Up By: Willem - Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 10:57
Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 10:57
Jo
What would you like to learn?...lol
Ahhh.......the self imposed Title of GPB. Alas too many cheeky insubordinates for now. Will have to go under my nom de plume for the time being :-)
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Miss Jo - Toad Keeper (Bris) - Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 16:28
Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 16:28
All of it Willem!
I want to know All of our outback history!
Actually picked up a book the Mailman of the
Birdsville Track, the story of Tom Kruse.. it is a great read so far and I have only just started.
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Follow Up By: Willem - Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 16:45
Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 16:45
Miss Jo
Maybe if you can find a book by Marcia McEwan, 'Great Australian
Explorers' ISBN 0 85835 864 6...Bay Books
Tailored for schools but a good read to give you an overall idea of the European Exploration of this country.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Miss Jo - Toad Keeper (Bris) - Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 16:51
Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 16:51
I just spent 100 bucks in the EO bookshop, I bet ya that book is in there!. I do have a list of books added into my wishlist so I remember the titles so I can purchase later on. I'll have to check if the book you mention is added in.
But for now I must go to bed...it's 4.50pm and I start my nightshift tonight at 10pm. Have to be out the door by 9.15pm.
night night! Get back to your posts in the morning.
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Reply By: equinox - Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 10:42
Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 10:42
I was camped out in the open on a sandridge to the north of the spring. It was quite likely there were no other humans within a 100 kms.
A single howl of a
dingo cut the silence of the night. It scared quite the living crap out of me. I retrieved my hunting knife from my bag and slept with it. In the morning there were
dingo tracks within metres - it could have got me if it wanted to.
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Follow Up By: Willem - Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 11:20
Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 11:20
Alan
As I recall you found the spring under
water.
Judith got a bit nervous out there. We camped close to the
water. The birds came in for a drink from all directions and that night the dingoes howled( maybe relatives of your
dingo...lol)
This place was then as remote and isolated as one could get.
On the way out I made the suggestion about taking the 'other' track back to the CSR but was voted down quite sternly...lol
In '94 I thought that I would never drive the CSR again. Did a section in 2005 and again in 2006 and will be there again in 2009.
I had used up all 7 jerries of Super by the time I got to
Well 26 and the fuel gauge was showing EMPTY!! Called up Meeka on the HF to see if there were other travellers on the CSR to help out. There weren't. Luckily fuel gauge was crook and we glided in to
Well 23 and our drum of dropped fuel with just 9 litres left in the
tank
I am better organised now...lol
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Miss Jo - Toad Keeper (Bris) - Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 16:22
Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 16:22
What is the longest distance you would drive in the outback that is between service stations?
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Follow Up By: Willem - Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 16:40
Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 16:40
Miss Jo
If I average 20/100 with diesel I have a range of 1650km.
Now I might go as high as 27/100 in place and as low as 12/100 in idyllic conditions.
Worst fuel consumtion was this year in the
Great Sandy Desert where I used 27.77/100 or 3.6km/litre
I covered 1550km offroad and offtrack once. That was from Tjukarilya Roadhouse on the GCR to
David carnegie Road,
Eagle Highway, cross country to Calvert Ranges, up the Canning to
Well 22(
Georgia Bore), along the Tlawana and via
Jigalong to
Newman. Used up 280 of the 330 useable litres giving 18.08/100. All this towing a bush trailer.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: equinox - Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 20:09
Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 20:09
Yes - it was completely flooded out when I was there, couldn't even see the spring through the
water.
Just thinking - Could the track in be the longest dead end track in Australia?
Cheers
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Follow Up By: equinox - Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 20:13
Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 20:13
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Reply By: Member - Peter S (VIC) - Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 10:51
Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 10:51
Hi Willem
WE drove out to
Helena spring about 3 weeks ago...it was just over 80kms from the csr turn off. The track was overgrown in parts and very slow travelling,took about 5hrs.There were numerous salty depressions there. According to our GPS co-ordinates from the Hema map the spring location was covered in bull rushes. There were two historic signs one with a shovel near the bull rushes marking the area.
Cheers
Peter S
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Follow Up By: Willem - Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 11:07
Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 11:07
Peter
Good to hear others have ventured out there.
There was only the Carnegie Historic Expedition
sign when we went there.
I must have clocked up the extra 10km in wheelspin...lol
I don't recall the bull rushes.
Peter Vernon put the track in by dragging a railway sleeper behind his Toyota in '92 but by 94 and goos rains the track was overgrown again. Still, the spring needed digging
Cheers
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Reply By: Steve - Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 16:36
Friday, Sep 12, 2008 at 16:36
Helena Springs: she used to be one of Bob Dylan's back-up vocals
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