pajero vs cruisers

Submitted: Saturday, Sep 13, 2008 at 12:08
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Hi everyone,

I am currently looking a buying a new 4wd (finally upgrading from our Toyota surf). I want a Pajero but the hand brake wants a 100 series cruiser (even though she will only use it as her shopping trolly).

I work for ARB and have worked on many pajeros and I personally think they are a better vehicle, however I would really like to here from those of you who own or have owned a pajero just to hear how you found them. Off road and as a everyday family vehicle.

Thanks

Demc
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Saturday, Sep 13, 2008 at 12:34

Saturday, Sep 13, 2008 at 12:34
Depends what you are going to do with it I guess.
If you are towing the Croozer has a higher rated capacity.

After seeing the trouble my mate has with last years Exceed and the auto probs I had a few years ago with a Mitsi bitsi I wouldnt touch one with a 40 foot pole.
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Reply By: MrBitchi (QLD) - Saturday, Sep 13, 2008 at 12:43

Saturday, Sep 13, 2008 at 12:43
Pajero Club Forum

I'm biased but I believe the Paj makes a far better daily driver then the Cruiser. Drives more like a car, and in standard trim there's not much between them off road.
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Reply By: Member - Redbakk (WA) - Saturday, Sep 13, 2008 at 12:52

Saturday, Sep 13, 2008 at 12:52
Got a few mates with petrol and diesel pajeros....all love them without exception.

Again know a few with prados...they are the same...love them

Then there are of us who own toyos and nissans and we all love them warts and all.....

So make a choice and just love it to death and don't care about anyone else......they are all good....life is too short.
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Reply By: Dave Thomson - Saturday, Sep 13, 2008 at 15:59

Saturday, Sep 13, 2008 at 15:59
If youv'e got a good Surf {3Lt with no probs} I'd hang on to it, my first 4by was a surf and I wish I'd never let it go,the only car I've found to compare is the Prado a very good buy but the surf had all I needed and everything in it in fact the only thing I didn't like was the rear electric window,to get in the back the window had to be down and that was my only beef, think on it,
regards,
Dave
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Reply By: Member - Andrew (WA) - Saturday, Sep 13, 2008 at 16:52

Saturday, Sep 13, 2008 at 16:52
I have had a NM Paj Petrol auto, a GU 3.0TDi Patrol series III, and currently have a 100series TD 5sp auto.

While all have their +'s and -'s, I find the 100 TD to be the most over rated talked about of the lot. It's heavy, not particularly nice to drive about town and Oil changes @ every 5000k is a bit of a bleep er.

I loved the Paj, and of all the cars it was the best to drive hands down, down side was rattles...I hate rattles and the economy was terrible. I know the diesel is much better but haven't owned one to comment.

Anyway, either there is something wrong with my cruiser that I don't know about, or it's just a very over rated machine as far as I am concerned. Off road it's good, but with the weak front diff one has to be careful.

If I had the money to upgrade, I be looking at a DiD Paj, Prado or dual cab SR5 Hilux DiD.

I even towed a 1200kg van with the TD100 recently on a 7000k holiday. I was disappointed to say the least compared to my previous Patrol 3.0tdi.

The Patrol was a manual, that may have made a difference.

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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Yalgoo) - Saturday, Sep 13, 2008 at 23:29

Saturday, Sep 13, 2008 at 23:29
why do you change the oil every 500km? its not in the service manual as needing it exept if using it under the heavy duty conditions section
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (WA) - Sunday, Sep 14, 2008 at 02:55

Sunday, Sep 14, 2008 at 02:55
It's generally the accepted intervals by TD100 owners who really look after their engines..

I know it can be done at 10,000 but I think you will find most do it every 5000 - 7500k's.
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Reply By: Member - Madfisher - Saturday, Sep 13, 2008 at 18:35

Saturday, Sep 13, 2008 at 18:35
Demc hi,
Why dont you let her take a 100 series for a drive, then take a Paj of your choice for a drive. One word of warning my exwife is looking at $5000.00 to rebuild her auto in her nm. Take a prado for a drive as well.
Cheers Pete
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Reply By: Member RayJen Paj05 (NSW) - Saturday, Sep 13, 2008 at 19:27

Saturday, Sep 13, 2008 at 19:27
H&D, we have an '05 Paj diesel NP; now 91,000k. +2", Lovell + Bilsteins and we go anywhere the 'big boys' go...I know 'cos we go with 'em....Gibb River Rd, Tanami, Vic high country back tracks, Simpson Desert - towing CT with tinnie on the roof.

Never a complaint, never a rattle, never an issue (oh I forgot, cd player bit the dust, replaced under warranty); I did take advice and got the suspension toughened up for serious off-roading.

No doubt the others are really good but nothing wrong AT ALL with our Paj! Running costs, km/l generally lower. Day to day running - 9.1 l/100 km

Cheers, RayJen
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Follow Up By: Member - Nick (TAS) - Saturday, Sep 13, 2008 at 19:38

Saturday, Sep 13, 2008 at 19:38
Goes everywhere the big boys go ay..........I seem to remember a certain spot behind Halls Creek where a certain Paj..........I will say no more.
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Follow Up By: Member RayJen Paj05 (NSW) - Saturday, Sep 13, 2008 at 19:41

Saturday, Sep 13, 2008 at 19:41
Yes Nick, ok but that's the only time.....and we got out of it, didn't we????

Hope all good for you in Tas. Cheers, Ray
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Reply By: Rossco td105 - Saturday, Sep 13, 2008 at 22:17

Saturday, Sep 13, 2008 at 22:17
G'day,

I'm not sure about the price difference, but probably in favour of the Pajero. The Pajero is a capable touring vehicle with a nice diesel engine (if that's what you're looking for). The cruiser is a good touring vehicle with better towing capacity but not so great in the day to day city driving stakes. Like some one said above, let the hand brake (your words) drive both and see what happens... (and I even drive a cruiser!).

Good luck,

Ross.
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Reply By: Crackles - Saturday, Sep 13, 2008 at 22:56

Saturday, Sep 13, 2008 at 22:56
A 100 series Cruiser is probably a bit big for a daily driver. instead I'd recommend a 120 series Prado which is a far better comparison in size to a Pajero. 180 litre fuel tanks, good fuel econemy, excellent handling & with much of the driveline similar to the 80 series is an excellent all round performer offroad as well.
Cheers Craig...........
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Follow Up By: Tippa - Monday, Sep 15, 2008 at 21:21

Monday, Sep 15, 2008 at 21:21
Just an interesting point i'd like to add to this, is i own an 80series, my f-i-l owns a new prado. The prado looks a lot smaller. Curiosity won us over and out came the tape measure...
Surprised to say the least, every point we measured came up within an inch of eachother... wheelbase, total length, width, roof height, cargo size (big surprise), door to door width etc etc.

Another mate just got a 100 series, and we measure them too... there is bugger all difference in measurements between my 80 and it too...

So although they may look far different in size, deceptively the prado is actually as big as a 100 series landcruiser within an inch in any measurement.
Of course the cruiser will be heavier, and spec sheets may state otherwise, but trust me and get a tape out and compare them all- it surprised the hell out of all of us to the point of my f.i.l who i recommended to downsize to a prado feeling ripped off that it is actually the size of a full sized landcruiser!
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Monday, Sep 15, 2008 at 21:51

Monday, Sep 15, 2008 at 21:51
Although some measurements like overall length are almost identical the width in particular finds the Prado body almost 80mm narrower than a 100 series. One only has to drive up the bush to see the extra dints & scratches of the full sized Cruiser. Just compare the size of the centre consoles between them to see the real difference. Depending on spec level the other big difference is the weight which is around half a tonne. Because they are lighter the Prado actually has a greater payload than it's bigger brother even though it carries more fuel.
As you said the big surprise was the similar cargo size.
Cheers Craig.........
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Reply By: puttputt - Sunday, Sep 14, 2008 at 09:54

Sunday, Sep 14, 2008 at 09:54
When you say new, I assume you talking 2nd hand, because it seems Mitsi will be upgrading diesel donk soon (see Overlander forum).

My opinion.

The Mitsi DID is a great motor, but the 100 would be my choice, but too big for the missus' daily driver. Watch out for pajero crd dpf problems.

My friend bought a spotless Prado 120 06 T/D (pre d4d) 70000kms gx man at auction for $25000. I would say prado is a great option.

Best value for money is new Mitsu Triton VR DID dual cab 4x4 for about $34990, huge interior and does not have pajero dpf problem.
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Reply By: Corio - Sunday, Sep 14, 2008 at 11:46

Sunday, Sep 14, 2008 at 11:46
Demc,

From recent experience you should also consider Toyotas exyensive dealer network and that with Toyotas and Nissans most mechanics in the bush have some knowledge to be able to rectify any problems .

Just something to consider.

Cheers
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Reply By: Richard W (NSW) - Sunday, Sep 14, 2008 at 14:11

Sunday, Sep 14, 2008 at 14:11
Demc,

I had a 2001 NM Paj Petrol auto and replaced it with a TD100 about 3 years ago. I bought the cruiser because of three teenage kids however I now have a small sedan to run around town. The TD100 has cost me a lot more in replacement parts and I have used both vehicles on similar terrain.
If I was in the market again I'd probably go the Did Paj.
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