Hf radio mounting.

Submitted: Sunday, Sep 14, 2008 at 09:03
ThreadID: 61650 Views:4943 Replies:7 FollowUps:8
This Thread has been Archived
I have just bought a 100 series and am asking where fellow travellers mount the transmitter unit of their Hf.
I don't like the idea of down low in case it gets wet ect.On my old troopy I mounted it on the cargo barrier.
I appreciate your advice
Mike.
Back Expand Un-Read 0 Moderator

Reply By: Louie the fly (SA) - Sunday, Sep 14, 2008 at 10:19

Sunday, Sep 14, 2008 at 10:19
I have mounted a few high up on the cargo barrier, and also made brackets to mount to the cargo area wall above the wheel arch.

I've also made a shelf out of 3mm sheet that sat parallel to the floor but up near the roof, picking up the mounting points for the cargo barrier, and attached to the barrier with a few other small brackets. It worked great and got the units up into the space that didn't get used much. This housed a Codan and a Motorola VHF, a box of bits, and a few other specific bits and pieces of "work gear". Then I just ran all the cables down the cargo barrier (separately) in black spiral conduit. Time consuming though. That was in one of my ex work cars, a GQ Patrol.

Decide carefully before putting holes in your trim.
AnswerID: 325214

Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Sunday, Sep 14, 2008 at 10:20

Sunday, Sep 14, 2008 at 10:20
Well firstly what make and model radio have you got.
MY NTG is screwed to the passenger end of my drawers and the mic is on the edge of the centre console. The UHF is under my seat and the mic is beside the other one.
However I dont intend to take the car swimming so it wont matter. The Autotune is mounted at the rear on the Kaymar spare wheel carrier. See post 61389 for pics
below is pic of handset mounted on tunnelImage Could Not Be Found
AnswerID: 325215

Reply By: Stu & "Bob" - Sunday, Sep 14, 2008 at 12:48

Sunday, Sep 14, 2008 at 12:48
The Tx unit of my 9323 is mounted under the driver's seat on my 105. I don't intend to take it swimming, so it should be ok there. The remote head is mounted on the transmission tunnel, and 9350 autotune antenna is mounted on the far left hand side of the bullbar.

HTH

.
AnswerID: 325228

Reply By: Mike Harding - Sunday, Sep 14, 2008 at 13:40

Sunday, Sep 14, 2008 at 13:40
Where ever you mount it; keep in mind the three prime rules of HF radio installation:
1 - Earthing
2 - Earthing
3 - Earthing

Mike Harding
AnswerID: 325236

Reply By: Member - Shane D (QLD) - Sunday, Sep 14, 2008 at 15:25

Sunday, Sep 14, 2008 at 15:25
Hi Burnsy,
This is what I did with my Barret 250

Image Could Not Be Found

Image Could Not Be Found

Image Could Not Be Found
I went the safe "up high" mounting point, I don't intent to use my cruiser as a submarine, but I have totally underestimated a puddle on occasion and it could of cost me big time.

When I'm travelling, all the sleeping bags, bedding, & pillows go up against the unit so if there is an accident, the only things that are going to hit the unit will be soft.
I have never had the need to remove the cargo barrier, this maybe a factor if you wish the remove barrier when not in use, and the other thing is that the big siutcase size box creates a large blind spot if you use the center rear-view mirror all the time.
Shane
AnswerID: 325246

Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Sunday, Sep 14, 2008 at 16:01

Sunday, Sep 14, 2008 at 16:01
Jesus! Is that really the size of a Land Mobile HF radio!?

My Yaesu FT857D (100W on HF, 50W on 2m, 20W on 70cm) is about 210L x 150W x 50D and it only cost A$1000.

Mike Harding
0
FollowupID: 592359

Follow Up By: Mike - Sunday, Sep 14, 2008 at 17:28

Sunday, Sep 14, 2008 at 17:28
Hi Mike, with your Yaesu, do you TX Rx on the VKS 737 network with it, if so what antenna do you have/use...........I have a Codan NGT in the Landcruiser, but thought that a Yaesu would be handy when I am away on country trips in my Car.
0
FollowupID: 592367

Follow Up By: Member - Shane D (QLD) - Sunday, Sep 14, 2008 at 18:58

Sunday, Sep 14, 2008 at 18:58
Ummmm. . . yep
I don't know how old it is, but it works a treat, found on Ebay, Got change out of $1K with aerial (multi-tap of course), bloke I got it from help with setup and ensured that I fitted correctly (Did some-one say EARTH) and the aerial was tuned.
I am sure that the newer ones arn't anywhere as big as this and I, like the large general public, dont have a clue where to seek alternatives other than Codan or Barret.
Shane
0
FollowupID: 592385

Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Sunday, Sep 14, 2008 at 19:05

Sunday, Sep 14, 2008 at 19:05
>with your Yaesu, do you TX Rx on the VKS 737 network with it

Of course not Mike! That would be illegal as many on here will lecture you in regard to :) Although few of them will understand the differences between a "Type approved Land Mobile" and an Amateur Radio - anyone game to state them?

In regard to antennas - at HF frequencies; a bit of wire in the trees will beat a vertical whip anytime. Sometimes I use a Famparc whip but mostly I use an inverted vee dipole - the inverted vee, with an antenna tuner, lets me chat to people across the world.

Mike Harding
0
FollowupID: 592389

Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Sunday, Sep 14, 2008 at 19:08

Sunday, Sep 14, 2008 at 19:08
>I, like the large general public, dont have a clue where to seek
>alternatives other than Codan or Barret.

Of course you don't! And a lot of people would like to keep it that way.

How else would they make ridiculous profits out of HF radio otherwise?

Mike Harding
0
FollowupID: 592390

Follow Up By: Member - Shane D (QLD) - Sunday, Sep 14, 2008 at 19:18

Sunday, Sep 14, 2008 at 19:18
Thats why I said it.
Shane
0
FollowupID: 592394

Follow Up By: Mike - Monday, Sep 15, 2008 at 18:47

Monday, Sep 15, 2008 at 18:47
Mike..........are you saying that even if you are a member of VKS 737 and have permission to use their frequencies, that you are not allowed to TX RX on your Yaesu Radio ?????
0
FollowupID: 592527

Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Monday, Sep 15, 2008 at 19:35

Monday, Sep 15, 2008 at 19:35
Hi Mike

>are you saying that even if you are a member of VKS 737 and have
>permission to use their frequencies, that you are not allowed to TX
>RX on your Yaesu Radio ?????

Yes that's correct. Only "Type Approved Land Mobiles" are, legally, permitted to be used on VKS737, it's a similar situation with CB.

There is some sense to this; in order to obtain "Type Approval" for a radio the major requirement is that it be "Channelised" ie. the user is technically prevented from transmitting anywhere other than the frequencies approved for his system - VKS737, CB, etc. Whereas an Amateur Radio will allow the user to transmit anywhere on the band.

For people who are technically inept this is, probably, a good thing but for those who are able to handle a modicum of technology (can you programme your VCR etc?) it's needlessly prohibitive and enables manufacturers/resellers of Land Mobile HF radios to charge a significant premium for their product. NB Codan/Barrett et al produce a quality product but it is seriously overpriced.

In reality what happens is that many people who understand these things buy an Amateur Radio to use on VKS737 and those who don’t buy Codan etc. No one polices the situation. Amateur Radios usually lack Selcall but a Jenal mike will fix that.

Jenal

Finally: someone mentioned his Land Mobile covers the Amateur Bands… not really it doesn’t. Sure it’s possible to programme specific frequencies into it but Amateur Radio is not channilised and having fixed frequencies is virtually useless eg. I have a regular schedule on 3.682MHz but if that frequency is busy we’ll go to 3.677MHz or 3.563MHz or 7.105MHz or…? You cannot change the programming in your Codan to accommodate that.

Mike Harding

mike_harding@fastmail.fm
0
FollowupID: 592536

Reply By: Member - Mark E (VIC) - Sunday, Sep 14, 2008 at 19:59

Sunday, Sep 14, 2008 at 19:59
Mike,

A couple of pics of my setup for you....
Image Could Not Be Found

Image Could Not Be Found

Hope this helps.

Not getting into the debate over amateur v commercial, suffice to say my Codan has been installed over thousands of k's of corrugations without incident. I'm happy with mine and it owes me similar to that of the amateur set AND will do amateur if so desired and appropriately licenced.

Cheers,

Mark


AnswerID: 325296

Reply By: burnsy - Monday, Sep 15, 2008 at 08:11

Monday, Sep 15, 2008 at 08:11
Thanks for all your feedback. I suppose I'll have to get used to the fact that the old Troopy{where you could bolt to anything anywhere} is on the outer. SWMBO doesn't think that we will have enough room in the new cruiser. I too don't want it to go swimming but haveing said that I have been caught out on the odd occasion in the past so I think that I will perservere with the higher mount option.
AnswerID: 325352

Sponsored Links

Popular Products (9)