Tyre Rotation
Submitted: Friday, Sep 19, 2008 at 08:03
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RobEG
I am interested in the experience of other LC100 owners with tyre rotation. The handbook sets out a five wheel rotation regime but the dealer only does front to rear at every 10000km with the outcome being and old, unused spare. I would appreciate comments from others on best practice here.
Reply By: Member - Wim (Qld) - Friday, Sep 19, 2008 at 08:33
Friday, Sep 19, 2008 at 08:33
RobEG
All five (in the case of town shoes) and all six (in the case of out of town shoes) get rotated.
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Follow Up By: Rod, Sydney - Friday, Sep 19, 2008 at 10:30
Friday, Sep 19, 2008 at 10:30
I agree. Cheers
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Follow Up By: Heefers - Friday, Sep 19, 2008 at 14:06
Friday, Sep 19, 2008 at 14:06
Here Here. Means you have to buy five tyres when the time comes but at least you can play around with size and brand and be confident that the spare will cause no trouble through being mis-matched. Don't know if it's overkill but I do
mine every 5,000 or so. I have a good trolley jack and a good set of stands that make the job extremely easy. As stated below make sure though that you haven't got directional tyres fitted before changing from one side to another.
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Follow Up By: Heefers - Friday, Sep 19, 2008 at 14:07
Friday, Sep 19, 2008 at 14:07
Sorry Wim, that advice about directionals was meant for RobEg
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Reply By: Member - Olcoolone (S.A) The O - Friday, Sep 19, 2008 at 13:33
Friday, Sep 19, 2008 at 13:33
There is a new theory about rotating off road tyres.
They say to only rotate tyres from front to back and not diagonally.
So left hand side tyres can only be fitted to the left side and right hand side tyres only to the right side.
This is to do with the tread design.
Rotating tyres are going to be a thing of the past soon as more vehicles are getting fitted with stability and traction control.
The stability and traction control logs a fault as it is detection one wheel is turning faster then the other
wheels and acts accordingly.
This may also be the case if you destroy one tyre that has lost 15mm of tread depth and you fit a new tyre.
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Follow Up By: Off-track - Friday, Sep 19, 2008 at 13:52
Friday, Sep 19, 2008 at 13:52
That is for directional tyres which can be easily identified by a direction arrow on the sidewall. Been around for years.
Stability and traction control will not be/is not that sensitive. Been around for years.
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Follow Up By: Member - Olcoolone (S.A) The O - Friday, Sep 19, 2008 at 19:27
Friday, Sep 19, 2008 at 19:27
No non directional as
well.
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Reply By: Member - Ross S (QLD) - Friday, Sep 19, 2008 at 14:03
Friday, Sep 19, 2008 at 14:03
Rotate your tyres as per the handbook.
There's no point if paying >$250 for a tyre and only keeping it as a spare then throwing it away after 5 years.
By evening out the wear over the 5 or 6 tyres you also don't end up with one almost new tyre and one down to say 5mm of tread left on the same axle. Which causes other problems.
I rotate 6 tyres, spares to front, front to diagonal rear and rears to spares.
This is every 5000kms (except if I am away on a long trip and then they get done when returning home). It also shows up any alignment problems.
Other than a damaged tyre have yet to get to a point where I don't replace all tyres at the same time.
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Ross
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Reply By: RobEG - Friday, Sep 19, 2008 at 17:27
Friday, Sep 19, 2008 at 17:27
Tks guys. Appreciate the time taken to reply. Was not happy with the dealer only doing front to rear because the spare ends up useless so makes sense to go as the book and rotate the lot.
Cheers
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Reply By: Muddy doe (SA) - Friday, Sep 19, 2008 at 19:43
Friday, Sep 19, 2008 at 19:43
My tyre dealer in a bid to build customer loyalty does a free rotation for me every 5,000km for the life of the tyres.
This is good for me as they do all the hard work and inspect them each time. Occasionally I change them myself when changing from the road set (Cooper ATR's) to the off-road set (Goodyear MTR's) prior to a trip.
The biggest hassle is the Toyota dealer stuffing around with them when it gets serviced. I have marked them a few times and checked afterwards. They are a bit hit and miss. Once they did all 5, once they didn't move anything (they said they did) but mostly they do front to back.
I tell the dealer service agent to leave them alone as the tyre guys look after it but as usual they do what they like and bill accordingly.
I try and ensure that the spare "keeps up" in terms of wear so they are all similar. One guy in our club had a delamination of a spare that had been on the back door for years weeks after he put it on. The car was new to him and it looked like the spare had never left the back door until he used it (GQ). Did a fair bit of damage after letting go at 80km/h.
Mine is a Prado but I think the concept is applicable to all vehicles.
Cheers
Muddy
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Reply By: Member - Paul W (VIC) - Friday, Sep 19, 2008 at 20:04
Friday, Sep 19, 2008 at 20:04
i rottate front to rear every 10k, then f to r but diagonals the next 10k, then f to r only etc etc etc, on muddies it is good because it stops excessive feathering of the outer lugs on the tyres.my pro comps have done 52 odd thousand kays and are all nice and square, and still have 7/8mm of tread left on them.they only get used for outback travel and muddy 4WDing, otherwise my venture A/Ts are used and rotated the same way even marking individual
wheels so i know where they are to be put next time they get used. cheers Paul
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