Jumper Lead Question

Submitted: Monday, Sep 22, 2008 at 20:04
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Hi,
I have a set of projecta jumper leads which are rated at 400amps

Just wandering if these are big enough to start a diesel (pajero 3.2).

Thanks in advance,
Richard
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Monday, Sep 22, 2008 at 20:08

Monday, Sep 22, 2008 at 20:08
Easiest way is try them.
Mine are made out of heavy duty welding cables and will start a truck or a bus no probs.

They will get hot if not enuf grunt

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Follow Up By: Member - Bucky (VIC) - Wednesday, Sep 24, 2008 at 06:42

Wednesday, Sep 24, 2008 at 06:42
Graham

Ditto, every thing is super heavy duty, cost me $150, 4 years back, and worth every penny.........
They will be handed to my grandchildren, when I loose all my teeth, and marbles

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Bucky



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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Wednesday, Sep 24, 2008 at 08:21

Wednesday, Sep 24, 2008 at 08:21
Well yours must be gold plated I bought the cable from a scrap yard for $15 and they are long enough to go across the front of two cars with a bit spare. Attached to the clamps off my old ones added spike protector and 15 years later still going strong
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Reply By: Tippa - Monday, Sep 22, 2008 at 20:10

Monday, Sep 22, 2008 at 20:10
It depends how flat the paj's battery is... if it just wont crank quick enough, then probably yes, but if its dead flat, then no jumper leads could do it. It does also depend on the car/battery/alternator which is being used to jump it too...
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Reply By: Eric Experience - Monday, Sep 22, 2008 at 20:34

Monday, Sep 22, 2008 at 20:34
Richard.
The answer depends on technique, The usual mad rush people are in they connect the leads and then immediately start cranking, but if you connect up, then run the dona car at fast idle for about 5 minutes the Paj will start using some of its own battery and some from the other vehicle. Works every time. Eric.
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Follow Up By: Member - Bucky (VIC) - Wednesday, Sep 24, 2008 at 06:43

Wednesday, Sep 24, 2008 at 06:43
Good call Eric

Cheers
Bucky
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Reply By: Nomadic Navara - Monday, Sep 22, 2008 at 20:43

Monday, Sep 22, 2008 at 20:43
Unless the battery is too buggered even much lighter ones will assist in starting a dead vehicle. It is just that the lighter the gauge of the jumpers the longer you will have to run the donor vehicle to put sufficient charge into the discharged battery. Never give up if you think the leads are too light - however if the leads get too hot whilst you are doing the charging then the receptor battery is too buggered, give up in this case.

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Follow Up By: Tippa - Monday, Sep 22, 2008 at 21:25

Monday, Sep 22, 2008 at 21:25
Exactly. If your battery is too far gone, ie the plates have deteriorated (or got sulfurication buildup) then it doesnt matter whether you have a Mack truck with 10 jumper leads...
In general terms, if the flat battery isnt too knackered and the donor car is giving good current then your leads will be fine. As mentioned, if it doesnt get yours kranking quickly straight away, let it charge up foir a few minutes and give it another go.
One thing to check is you should slide your handle grips off the jumper leads and check how good the handles are clamped onto the lead core wire. I ahve seen sets burn out there as they arent crimped enough and arc out, get hot and start smoking. Give them a good crimp and 400amp leads should be fine.
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Reply By: Stephen M (NSW) - Monday, Sep 22, 2008 at 21:57

Monday, Sep 22, 2008 at 21:57
I have also been told to turn the lights on with the car that has the flat battery so that when you connect the leads that the power will go straight to the lights and not the computer as to not spike it. Then when hooked up turn the lights back off and proceed. How true this is I wouldnt have a clue or just some thing someone made up. I know when I worked for Toyota and we had to jump the Lexcen's (commodores) we did fry a few computers but never tried the lights on first way. I have seen jumper leads with those anti spike thingys on them but not in heavy duty. Regards Steve M
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Tuesday, Sep 23, 2008 at 12:06

Tuesday, Sep 23, 2008 at 12:06
Have put anti spike module on mine by soldering it across the two clamps at one end of them. About $20 I think it was
Well worth it as I used to use them when Taxi Driving to give jump starts to people that went socialising and left lights on. A nice little money spinner it was Paid for leads in the first week.
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Reply By: Member - Russnic [NZ] - Wednesday, Sep 24, 2008 at 15:06

Wednesday, Sep 24, 2008 at 15:06
Hi.
My experience would suggest no problems, connections OK let the donor vehicle run for a short while, when you hook up most times you will hear the alternator cut in, check the voltage, idiot lights if in doubt.Wait a bit and crank up.
Along time ago doing Army National Service two of us were given the task or shifting two paddocks about (50 acres) of old Puddlejumper trucks, flat head Ford V8s and straight 6 Chevys.and the odd Bedford water truck as well, half tonners to 5 ton,we had to move them about half a mile down the track to another paddock,we were given a set of jumper leads, a container of petrol and air compressor, along with a brand new Landrover, any thing we could not get to go was to be left, no towing.
After a couple of days there was only a handful left, neither of us were mechanics, both country guys, i guess why we were there at that time of the year because of farm commitments we could not attend Annual Camp. Have often wondered when those trucks had been last shifted, looking at the ground under them it looked like it could have been a couple of years or so. Perhaps the Powers That Be had them shifted annually, I guess by now they have all been shifted to the East as scrap the Japs got them anyway.
I have started a lot of vehicles trucks/tractors over the years, weight of jumper leads not a big factor, first leads I had ,I had made from welding cable,not really required as I think most of the resistance is in the clamps, a little time and patience works better. Good idea about turning on the lights, normally do that to check the connections are OK first.
In saying that when I got back to NZ my old Jap Import Landcruiser would not fire up, hooked up the leads a dull click again, cranked up the gen hooked up the same result, hell those battery's weren't that old to be so dead, left the gen charging and come back to town, woke up in the night DUH Homer Simpson's Wise, can't start a 24v system with 12v eh
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Follow Up By: Tippa - Thursday, Sep 25, 2008 at 20:58

Thursday, Sep 25, 2008 at 20:58
Its funny you should mention about jumping a 24V with a 12V....
My backhoe is 24V and i have jumped it with my 80 series 'cruiser a few times and our mate's horse truck is 24V and i have jumped it a few times too... both have two 12V batteries hooked up in series, so i just put my negative on one battery's negative, and my positive on it's other battery's positive (ie series), let it charge up for a few mins, give her a go and every time they have kicked fast enough to start.
Just have to realise that they are usually two 12V batteries which can be charged by one 12V battery. Just because they are connected in series to be able to produce 24V doesnt mean they arent able to be jump started.
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Follow Up By: Member - Russnic [NZ] - Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 06:34

Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 06:34
Hi Tippa
I thought the same too, had managed to get 12v vehicles going with 6v ,my first car was a 6v V DUB. I had connected up the same way, and nothing, with both a 12v vehicle,12v charger run by the gen the charging light did not come on so then hooked straight to to the gen battery charger, there still appeared to be no charge response, digital meter was in town so could not check exactly what was happening. When I hooked up another 24v Cruiser let it run for a minute or two and it fired up, then found the inside light come on, the truck had been used by a fencer while I was in Aus, perhaps the batteries were that dead they did not respond to a 12v charge. No problems now after a run.
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