Radiator Flush

Submitted: Thursday, Sep 25, 2008 at 11:58
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Was just wondering how many of you pull out your radiator and take to the professionals for a strip down, flush, pressure test etc or am I asking for trouble by upsetting something that is all ok.Hvae been quoted $90 to do it thats me pulling out of vehicle. Myn has never been pulled out, has always run genuine coolant and changed when required by log books. I was going to pull out and just flush out with hose and also degrease the core/cooling fins (outside only with degreaser) and flush through to clear any mud etc. Whats your thoughts. Vehicle has done 176 klm's also is auto which has cooler running in the bottom tank of radiator. Regards steve M
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, Sep 25, 2008 at 13:11

Thursday, Sep 25, 2008 at 13:11
From what I've seen, if you have had the original Toyota coolant in it since day 1, I wouldn't be pulling the radiator apart.

If its had different coolants, then different story.
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Follow Up By: Stephen M (NSW) - Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 15:39

Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 15:39
Hi Phil, reply to "Troopyman below" Has always had genuine coolant but read up on some issues last night common with the V6 prado water pump. Thankyou Regards Steve M
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Reply By: Member - Redbakk (WA) - Thursday, Sep 25, 2008 at 14:53

Thursday, Sep 25, 2008 at 14:53
A new engine will cost you approx $9000 plus.....and you worry about $90.........???!!!!!!!
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Follow Up By: Member - Redbakk (WA) - Thursday, Sep 25, 2008 at 14:54

Thursday, Sep 25, 2008 at 14:54
or $900 for that matter
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Follow Up By: Stephen M (NSW) - Thursday, Sep 25, 2008 at 19:15

Thursday, Sep 25, 2008 at 19:15
Redbakk, $90 was never the issue. The question was does any one else have it done professionally. In other words do I need to, or will just a normal flush do then add required coolant back into the system again and not upset anything that is all working fine. Its just that its up for a coolant change so thought maybe with klms on it and knowing it has never been out is a pull apart flush,tanks off etc required. No current leaks anywhere etc Regards Steve
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Follow Up By: Member - Madfisher - Thursday, Sep 25, 2008 at 22:02

Thursday, Sep 25, 2008 at 22:02
Goodday Steve,
Guess if you are planning a desert trip it would be good preventative maintance, but if only doing shorter local trips I would leave it unless getting hot.
Cheers Pete
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Follow Up By: Stephen M (NSW) - Thursday, Sep 25, 2008 at 22:38

Thursday, Sep 25, 2008 at 22:38
Hi Pete, na definately no desert trips planned,way to busy for the next year or two. (things in the pipeline). No issues with getting hot etc all running spot on (except a stupid annoying noise every now and then) Just doing the scheduled coolant change and just thought maybe it needs to come out but think I will leave for now and just do as mentioned below with a reverse flush through the heater hoses (heater tap open of course). Might pull the fan shroud back thou and give a good flush back towards the grill to remove any crap that could be there cought up in the cooling fins (nothing visible) Regards Steve M
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Follow Up By: Member - Redbakk (WA) - Thursday, Sep 25, 2008 at 22:55

Thursday, Sep 25, 2008 at 22:55
Steve...do it all anyway....with summer almost here it will give you peace of mind....nothing worse than getting stuck...particularly if the wife and kids are with you on a hot day.
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Follow Up By: Stephen M (NSW) - Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 15:34

Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 15:34
Redbakk, reply to Troopyman below "follow up".Thanks again Regards Steve M
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Reply By: Robnicko - Thursday, Sep 25, 2008 at 17:00

Thursday, Sep 25, 2008 at 17:00
Steve,
My 80 series has 100k ontop of yours and I have always changed the coolant everywhere 2 years with the genuine red concentrate. I have (touch wood.......hand onn head) not had an issue to date and when flushing it with clean water, and the motor, have never had any muck or crap come out. When looking through the filler it is clean. The important thing is to keep flushing till it comes out totally clean as old coolant mixed with new coolant can gum up.
I use the genuine red concentrate, 4 litres and the rest water.

Rob
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Follow Up By: Stephen M (NSW) - Thursday, Sep 25, 2008 at 19:19

Thursday, Sep 25, 2008 at 19:19
Hi Rob, its clean inside and it has always had the genuine coolant added at the required intervals, The mud Im referring too is from the outside (playing in the mud). Fom what I can see obviously without dropping the coolant the overflow bottle it spotless inside and when I checked the radiator all looked nice and clean. Think I will just do a normal flush. Regards Steve M
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Reply By: Dunaruna - Thursday, Sep 25, 2008 at 17:13

Thursday, Sep 25, 2008 at 17:13
Good quality coolant will help to minimise block/head flaking but the majority of crud comes from plain old tap water. Unless you use demineralised water from day one, crud builds up over time and deposits in the tubes, and it sets rock hard. You can flush till the cows come home, you will never remove it. The only solution is to get the tubes rodded out. Also, many radiators these days use folded tabs and 'O' rings instead of solder, the 'O' rings get replaced as part of the rodding out service. Not to mention plastic tanks that get brittle and you won't know until it cracks/leaks - too late.

I suggest a good rodding every 150,000km. The radiator also.

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Follow Up By: Member - Redbakk (WA) - Thursday, Sep 25, 2008 at 22:51

Thursday, Sep 25, 2008 at 22:51
Yes....this is the way to do it....mine is booked in at toyota next week for all the above and it will come with a 2 year waranty.

And yes I use demin water.
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Follow Up By: Stephen M (NSW) - Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 15:42

Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 15:42
So Dunaruna, Redbakk, I take it demin water should be used instead of tap water ?? Better for it ?? I can get this when ever I want from work so when all is changed and cleaned I should refill with this. Regards Steve M
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Follow Up By: Dunaruna - Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 17:46

Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 17:46
Yes, demin water should be used but the reality is that most people use plain old tap water (me included).
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Reply By: Willem - Thursday, Sep 25, 2008 at 18:10

Thursday, Sep 25, 2008 at 18:10
Stephen

I replaced the radiator three years ago at 300,000k

I pull the radiator of the GQ out every year after the 'travelling' season is over. Luckily the Nissan radiator is very easy to remove and re-install. I debur, debug and wash it out throughly with water and then after refitting fill it with ordinary green coolant.


Cheers
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Reply By: philldeb - Thursday, Sep 25, 2008 at 20:10

Thursday, Sep 25, 2008 at 20:10
drain system revurse flush via heater hoses etc replace coolant go
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Reply By: rags - Thursday, Sep 25, 2008 at 21:46

Thursday, Sep 25, 2008 at 21:46
Hi Steve
Just had to replace the radiator on the prado 98 mod 230 km auto,very slowly weeping, always flushed and replaced with toyota red coolant as per book times.Radiator place suggested that a professional flush ie remove hoses and tank tops etc is the best way to do it.He suggested that a stray earth problem may contribute to the early failure of the radiator [ must check that out]. Very happy with price and service of the radiator place in windsor nsw.
Thanks
Russell
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Follow Up By: Stephen M (NSW) - Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 15:36

Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 15:36
Hi there rags, refer to reply to Troopyman below. Thankyou Regards Steve M
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Follow Up By: Stephen M (NSW) - Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 15:37

Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 15:37
Russell, just thout Id ask (forgot to in reply above), have you had the water pump replaced yet ?? I read a bit on the V6 prado motors last night and seems common for the water pump to go with around the klms mine has on it ?? Regards Steve M
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Reply By: Krakka - Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 05:08

Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 05:08
Just replaced my radiator, coolant changes and flushes by the book from new, now 160k, you can't tell when the plastic tanks become brittle enough to give way. Not many more dollars to replace radiator instead of just replacing top tank. Total peace of mind now.
Regards Krakka
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Follow Up By: Stephen M (NSW) - Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 15:45

Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 15:45
Hi Krakka, reply to "Troopyman" below. Thanks for the reply. I am doing the lot, pump,belts, and pulling tank out to get checked/cleaned etc. Regards Steve M
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Reply By: troopyman - Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 07:20

Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 07:20
Go to this site ARE cooling and read the tech info .
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Follow Up By: troopyman - Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 07:21

Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 07:21
direct link
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Follow Up By: Stephen M (NSW) - Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 15:32

Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 15:32
Very good link there Troopy, I have ordered the parts today. I decided to replace pump and belt + drive belts and a couple of the tensioners at the same time. Belt is due at 200k but have also heard that the V6 water pumps have a habit of going and seems to be around the same klms mine has on it now. So will pull the radiator out get it checked and serviced whilst that is been done my mate (Toyota mechanic) will do the other stuff. Seems a common comment about the tanks possibly splitting/cracking and wife will be using it more soon as we will need the room so yes piece of mind for me and her as far as the cooling system goes. And she looooooves using aircon + will probably be running the rear air more as well so that will put more strain on everything in the extreme heat that they say we are going to get this year. thanks again. Regards Steve M
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