I am back!

Submitted: Monday, Sep 29, 2008 at 16:43
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So our 3 weeks trip around the globe finished safely. So now I will be busy by sorting tons and tons of photos and video. However I like to share with you some thing that wonder and even puzzled me.

Our roads in Australia are firs-class. Anyone who said that we have “3-rd country” roads either never been anywhere else or plainly blind. I could believe that in Germany roads better that ours (never been there as yet), but in France they no nearly as good as ours. Toll roads are better, but no way they better then our Hume freeway. “Ordinary” roads….. just ordinary. Narrow, without shoulders and no nearly “smooth as glass”. In Canada roads pretty much like ours with fewer double-lined separated freeways. In Japan roads utterly shocking. In California there are *ABUNDANCE* of freeways – if we have as many as they, then each street with 70km/hr and higher in Melbourne would became freeway. Their freeways very well organized and at some places can handle up to 6 cars abreast. Quality of road surface, however, very much as we use to use on ours freeways – better on evidently new roads and not that good on older one.

“Speed kills” only in Australia. Everywhere else it does not kill somehow. In California they do 80+ m/hr (130 and more km/hr) where signed speed 65-70 m/hr. On my question being catching by cop they answer that their cops only stops them if they drive well faster then other traffic. Similar situation in Canada. On roads very much as ours two-lines roads in rural areas they doing 120-130 km/hr with posted 100km/hr limit. Explanation the same – one should exceed speed significantly, say 40-50 km/hr to be stopped and booked. In France I been driving by my own. I been doing 60 where 60 is posted and been continuously overtaken by all other irritated traffic. I heard an opinion that Victoria is “Police State”, but never took it seriously. But the fact is it is true.

And last funny (for me) things – dogs (and I guess cats for this merit) permitted in Canada *EVERYWHERE*. All parks, caravan parks, walking tracks accept dogs. Plenty of people walking with dogs on tracks. Maximum “dog restriction” can be observed in biggest parks where there small part of camping spots reserved for “no dogs”, but never other way around. My Canadian friends told me that they never even think to go without their dos and could not recall even one place where dogs prohibited. This particular matter always been puzzled me – we as nation pretending to love our pets to death but in fact support “rid of your dog if you going out” mentality, thus actually (again as nation, I am not talking about individuals here) happily put our “member of family” in small kennels in “dogs hotels” and lets them suffer for weeks. We use to use it and believe that it is OK, but in fact there is other way to manage it and I saw it in great success with my own eyes.

Cheers
Serg
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Reply By: Member - Footloose - Monday, Sep 29, 2008 at 18:09

Monday, Sep 29, 2008 at 18:09
Your observations are well noted, but it can be misleading to compare apple with oranges.
I have seen tourist buses not only pulled over and booked for exceeding the limit by 20k/h, but also forced to watch a safety lecture in France, thus delaying the trip by several hours !
What are the stats on say, American fatalities per vehicle registered compared to ours ? Not all would be partly caused by speed but it would be interesting. How different is their driver licensing and minimum ages ?
On my first day back from the UK (years ago admittedly) I went for a drive on one of our country roads and damm near killed myself trying to take a corner too fast. I had been used to their roads which were much faster and far superior, because the local councils were responsible for their upkeep and could be sued if the road was deemed to have been the cause of an accident! Road crews were filling in pot holes in a blizzard..I couldn't believe it!
Perhaps this is no longer the case ?
How much unique fauna is found in the Canadian National Parks, and how is it's preservation handled ? Do they have dingos that breed with domestic dogs etc... ? If your dog gets eaten by a bear can you sue them :)))



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Follow Up By: Member - Serg (VIC) - Monday, Sep 29, 2008 at 19:17

Monday, Sep 29, 2008 at 19:17
Footloose,

I have not said anything what they do in France – just my observation. Also I have not say anything about “open space road” in UK (though their London traffic is most ugly). What about California (frankly it differs a lot from other states) and Canada – it is information from first hands from people whom I trust for more then 25 years and who been living there for number of years. Covering a lot by wheel in all 3 places I still insist that our roads damn good comparing what people using in other places. I been told that in California they have learn permit in 15 and can have driving license in 16. In 2006 in California there was 4197 fatalities on the road per 37m of population rendering 113 per million. In Australia for the same period (1601 per 20m) was 80 per million. In USA there is 765 vehicles per capita USA (Californian number will be higher, but I could not find it) while in Australia only 619. Thus number became much close – 148 and 129 correspondingly. Put into account that they have much dense traffic one can easy conclude that “Speed kills” slogan been invented to plant in someone heads that speed cameras invented purely for safety, not for revenue rising. Anyone who has even smallest amount of grey matter clearly can see that this is no more then propaganda and it has only one aim – revenue rising.

As to dogs in Canada – they warn everywhere that everyone should keep dogs on leashes. Otherwise they can be eaten by bears. And yes, they can get feral and breeds very well with coyotes and wolfs. If they did not eat them.

Dingoes should be considerer as “native” to Australia. As least canines (not like felines) been here long enough for their prey to readjust habits not to be catch easily – thus I honestly do not believe that dogs can destroy Australian fauna that easy. Thus being not that dog-oriented person in whole I would vote for “dogs in national parks” by both hands.

YMMV.

Cheers
Serg.

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