Oodnadatta Track

Could anyone offer any answers to these 'Oodnadatta' quiestions, please?
I am considering travelling there next June. Is this a good time to travel?
I am intending towing a Jayco Dove - outback. Would this be satisfactory in terms of dust, shaking etc?
Are there set camping areas? What facilities do they offer [I know they will be basic]?
Where are the popular overnight spots?
Is fuel available? Is LPG available?

Looking forward to your replies/suggestions.

Gary
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Reply By: Member - Alan H (QLD) - Saturday, Oct 04, 2008 at 13:25

Saturday, Oct 04, 2008 at 13:25
June is excellent time to go.

The issue is stamina for equipment. Only need 2WD but tyres, clearance, rough spots, bulldust etc usually mean 4WD will handle it better and likewise with offroad van. being a wind up I would expect the shaking will nt do it any favours.

Plenty of camps along the track. Look for railway stations, near Oodnadatta is the Anglebuckina Bridge which has large camping area just pick away from the dust of passing traffic. There are no facilities at these only at commercial camps like William Creek.

Check out the side atttractions like Strangeways etc (get a hema desert map) Peake is one sidetrack you should probably give a miss. It is usually terribly rough.

Diesel is available at Maree and Oodnadatta. Don't know about LPG. Think you can get petrol there.

Great part of the world, leave yourself time to enjoy the area.

Alan
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Reply By: Member - Footloose - Saturday, Oct 04, 2008 at 13:54

Saturday, Oct 04, 2008 at 13:54
Can get vary cold at night in June, but as posted , a great time to travel there.

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Reply By: Member - John and Val W (ACT) - Saturday, Oct 04, 2008 at 14:39

Saturday, Oct 04, 2008 at 14:39
Hi Gary,

Petrol is available at Maree and Oodnadatta and possibly William Creek. Bush camping is possible at many places along the track. Find a line of trees along a drainage line (dry watercourse) and tuck in beside them a little way off the track so that you are out of the dust of passing traffic. Junction waterhole west of oodnadatta is one place where we have had a good bush camp and there are other similar sites around there. Coward Springs is a good commercial camping area with a hot artesian spa. Make sure you have a look at the mound springs.

Val.

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Reply By: MEMBER - Darian (SA) - Saturday, Oct 04, 2008 at 15:55

Saturday, Oct 04, 2008 at 15:55
Yep - June is a good time to give it a go - the Ood. track (a good road actually) is often excellent from top to bottom - depends on maintenance - I have a pic on my road surfaces page at my site [ http://users.picknowl.com.au/~darian ] - an example of how good it can be - there will still be some stony sections here and there where you need to slow down to save your tyres (but usually nothing like the stonier parts of the BV and Strzelecki 'tracks'.
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Reply By: Member - dajo trad - Saturday, Oct 04, 2008 at 16:52

Saturday, Oct 04, 2008 at 16:52
As everyone else has said a good time to go. Did it last year with a dove and had no trouble. Great camping at Beresford siding. Good map book on the track from the shop here. Enjoy.
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Reply By: wendys - Saturday, Oct 04, 2008 at 18:26

Saturday, Oct 04, 2008 at 18:26
Recommend you buy The Outback Travellers Track Guide Series 1 The Oodnadatta Track. Cost me $23 in 2007. Covers to Oodnadatta and out to Marla. Series 2 Track 1 covers Oodnadatta to Alice. The guides have great little pictures of all the track sections and notes about points of interest. They also cover some side tracks e.g. Muloorina, which is a lovely camp area. Their web site is www.outbacktravellers.com.au
Approaching from south, recommend the Copley Caravan Park and Drovers Rest at Marree, if you want to stop there: this is on edge of town, basic caravan park, owner is ex boss drover - living history.
Going north, Coward Springs is commercial operation - unpowered, artesian "spa", toilets, showers, can have campfire; is pleasant spot to stay, in among big tamarisk trees, with some history to explore. Is a newish campground at William Creek - power, showers, toilets, but bare (as you would expect); we stayed a night here to enable longish plane flight over Lake Eyre, Painted Hills etc. Bush camping by Neale River at Algebuckina bridge is magic (no facilities at all - byo spade or portapotti!) Do not recommend staying in Oodnadatta, but do visit the Pink Roadhouse there. In 2007 we went east from Ood. through the Painted Desert (absolute MUST) & stayed a night at Arkaringa Station - commercial, offered power hookup, showers, toilets, campfire.
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Follow Up By: Member - Min (NSW) - Saturday, Oct 04, 2008 at 23:07

Saturday, Oct 04, 2008 at 23:07
Strongly agree - do not stay at Oodnadatta (behind the Roadhouse). It's a dump of the first order. Coward Springs is lovely.
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Follow Up By: Member - John G- Sunday, Oct 05, 2008 at 11:10

Sunday, Oct 05, 2008 at 11:10
Re the 'caravan park' at Oodnadatta behind the Pink Roadhouse. We were there in July 2007, IMO it's 'very basic' rather than a 'dump'. Facilities were clean, water was hot, and our fellow travellers were as for most times, a great bunch.

I think the Pink Roadhouse has a website and it's worth a check. The owners have contributed mightily to travel on the Track, predominantly tho' informative 'drumlid' signposting, and they have a good 'brochure' on tyre pressures. They'd be well worth a ring to get latest info.

Apologies if someone else has already referred to this publication, but we used The Outback Travellers Guide publication, Oodnadatta Track. Web references: www.outbacktravellers.com.au and www.anfwd.asn.au

It's a great trip, and as someone else said, take your time

Cheers
John
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Follow Up By: Axel [ the real one ] - Sunday, Oct 05, 2008 at 11:33

Sunday, Oct 05, 2008 at 11:33
John G ,ever wonder why the pink roadhouse gives out such detailed information about tire pressures ???? Of course it would not be that they are in the buisness of selling tires that are stuffed if you follow their recomendation would / could it be ??
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Follow Up By: Member - John G- Sunday, Oct 05, 2008 at 11:49

Sunday, Oct 05, 2008 at 11:49
Yeah Axel

I read the pros and cons about tyre pressures - the RAA bloke in Copley south of Marree says he never varies his tyre pressures, just drives at reasonable speed, and the Pink Roadhose brochure (from memory) is a bit overkill. Dunno if I'm quite as cynical as you tho' - perhaps if they were the tyre distributors for all spots along the Track, or everybody had to leave from and return to Odnadatta , I might be, but that's not the case is it? In the end, you read the info, and take the responsibility for the decision you make don't you?

avvagooday
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Sunday, Oct 05, 2008 at 15:28

Sunday, Oct 05, 2008 at 15:28
I agree the 'park' behind the Pink Roadhouse is a dump of Third World proportions!

My advice, drive straight past the Pink monstrosity & get fuel at the Co-op just a few metres up the road.
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Follow Up By: Axel [ the real one ] - Sunday, Oct 05, 2008 at 15:38

Sunday, Oct 05, 2008 at 15:38
Cynical ? definately !! its the only place on the track that you can buy tires ,, as an aside ,I have met a fellow who spent 16 yrs as the tire fitter at Mungerannie on the Birdsville track and he actually was the one who put the doubts of tire pressures upon me ,as he put it "ask what pressures the mine companies use " and the answer will be maximum recomended for tire .
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Follow Up By: Willykj - Monday, Oct 06, 2008 at 07:49

Monday, Oct 06, 2008 at 07:49
We have travelled the Track twice & stayed at the Pink Roadhouse both times. Last year we stayed 2 nights as their is lots to see around Ood.
It is not a dump as others have said. Sure it's basic & we enjoyed our time there. Was clean & water was hot etc.
You do not get "5" star in places like that!!
Willy
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Saturday, Oct 04, 2008 at 19:13

Saturday, Oct 04, 2008 at 19:13
There is no LPG north of Leigh Creek (and Leigh Creek has been known to run out). Can get unleaded at William Creek (unless its run out too!)
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Follow Up By: Rossc0 - Sunday, Oct 05, 2008 at 12:08

Sunday, Oct 05, 2008 at 12:08
There is LPG at Lyndhurst and it was 10cpl cheaper than Leigh Creek when we were through there in August.

A good site to find LPG outlets is:

LPG Australia

From there it shows LPG at Marla as well

Regards
Ross & Belinda
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Sunday, Oct 05, 2008 at 14:39

Sunday, Oct 05, 2008 at 14:39
Ross,
Hadn't realised there was LPG at Lyndhurst now. Your link says there Isn't so maybe it went in recently?

Cheers
Phil
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Follow Up By: Rossc0 - Sunday, Oct 05, 2008 at 15:51

Sunday, Oct 05, 2008 at 15:51
Hi Phil

Noticed too that it's not on the LPG Australia site but we found a few places like that on our recent trip.

I got the info from Hema Atlas (seventh edition) 4WD section before we went.

There's actually a sign somewhere between Parachilna and Lyndhurst (can't remember exactly where) advertising that Lyndhurst is the last LPG heading north ie next is Winton (Qld) heading that way or Marla on the OT.

Regards
Ross
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Follow Up By: Willykj - Monday, Oct 06, 2008 at 07:46

Monday, Oct 06, 2008 at 07:46
We have travelled the Track twice & stayed at the Pink Roadhouse both times. Last year we stayed 2 nights as their is lots to see around Ood.
It is not a dump as others have said. Sure it's basic & we enjoyed our time there. Was clean & water was hot etc.
You do not get "5" star in places like that!!
Willy
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Monday, Oct 06, 2008 at 09:22

Monday, Oct 06, 2008 at 09:22
I have a huge respect for Adam and Lynnie Plate who run the Pink Roadhouse at Oodnadatta. In the 1980's they opened up the west side of the Simpson Desert at a time when the Ghan Railway closed and Oodnadatta was expected to die.

There were no road signs up that way, so they made them all and they were great. When our families passed through on a hot October day in the late 1980's first thing he did was offer the use of his backyard pool for the kids to have a swim. We've been there maybe a dozen times since, and they always offer something extra. His tyre advice is spot on for the those tracks.

Theres a link to their roadhouse with all his mudmaps:
http://www.pinkroadhouse.com.au/biziworks/BiziGen4117.html?ownerID=WILLIBR&docID=29
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Reply By: Anthony (Vic) - Saturday, Oct 04, 2008 at 21:08

Saturday, Oct 04, 2008 at 21:08
We took a Dove Outback along OT last Nov. We changed a few things on ours to help handle the OT and other tracks but we still had a few problems.

Dust was a bit of a problem but you can always use zip lock plastic or larger plastic bags to key the dust out of laptop or towels etc.

By the time we got to the end of the OT I needed to replace one of the the Dove wheel bearings.

Before we left Melb I fitted a stone guard to the Dove A-frame. Changed the rims to the same on the 4wd. One item I suggest is a must do is protect the tank drain tap from stone damage by extending the tank stone guard with another piece of sheet steel.

I've added a couple of pics to show the stone damage to the shockers and tank guard after 3000kms on outback tracks including OT and the track itself.
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Reply By: Member - Bucky (VIC) - Sunday, Oct 05, 2008 at 07:44

Sunday, Oct 05, 2008 at 07:44
Gary

The track itself, is one of the best dirt roads in the outback. But in saying that, 4B's just do it with a little less stone damage.
Now in saying that, I must add that you can do the track in your mother's little Corolla, but you just never know if there is a wash out, just around the next corner.

LPG available ?..............Not too sure, as I never really looked for it, as we have a diesel..but I would say not, maybe Leigh Creek the last heading up.

There are lots of things to look at on the way up , and that's where you may need a 4B, but not all the time.If it rains, then you will be in the "poo", as the road turns to into slush, and water pools in many spots. Hence the 4B, but even sometimes, they will not through.

June is a good month, but it's cold at night.

Most things to see, are covered on this website so check it out.

Have stayed at Beresford Siding, (free) and not that far out of William Creek, another time. Friends stayed Algbukina Bridge area, and loved it, but got blown away at one of the lake Ayre sites. So have you guessed it, we free camp everywhere.

It's all nice along the "track", and when you start meeting some of the locals, it's even better. Great people out there !

Cheers
Bucky

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Reply By: The Landy - Sunday, Oct 05, 2008 at 15:23

Sunday, Oct 05, 2008 at 15:23
As with any outback road conditions will vary over time and it is worth checking prior to your trip. However, nothing wrong with the trip you are siuggesting with the equipment you are taking. Athough a trip to the outback wouldn't be complete without "dust and shaking" !!

I would highly recommend that you purchase a copy of a map on the "Oodnadatta Track" produced by Westprint Heritage Maps. It is comprehensive, gives detailed information on the area and places of interest to visit. I'm not sure if it is available through this website, however you should have no trouble locating one.

Regards
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Reply By: Member - Kiwi Kia - Tuesday, Oct 07, 2008 at 19:09

Tuesday, Oct 07, 2008 at 19:09
Have a look at the camp area behind the old ruins at Farina 25 km north of Lyndhurst. I recomend it - good toilets and VERY quiet (compared to Lyndhurst). Honest box for camp fee - can't remember how much but it was cheap. I have also camped on a side track running east just sth of the last dune about 10 km sth of William Creek a couple of times.
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