Missing captive for 75 series bucket seat.
Submitted: Monday, Oct 06, 2008 at 11:50
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Member - Boo Boo (NSW)
Well I found a couple of bucket seats complete with brackets that are made for a 75 series troopy.
I fitted the driver side
seat in no time at all and was impressed with my skills with a spanner.
I knew that the passenger side was a bit harder as I had to drill a hole in the floor to reveal a threaded nut.
So I put the runners and brackets together and bolted them to the three existing captives.
Then I checked for squareness and the marked where I thought the hidden captive was.
Drilled the hole without hitting the fuel
tank only to not find my hidden captive.
I stuck a piece of wire in the hole and probed around, but no luck, however there is a cut out in the vinyl floor which suggests that there is provision for this fourth hole.
Any suggestions.
Regards Bob
Reply By: Member - John (Vic) - Monday, Oct 06, 2008 at 11:52
Monday, Oct 06, 2008 at 11:52
Did you get underneath and have a look a whats there or not?
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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Monday, Oct 06, 2008 at 12:15
Monday, Oct 06, 2008 at 12:15
John
The first thing I did was to have a look underneath.
I can see the captive near the door ,but the one further in, if its there it is above the fuel
tank.
Regards Bob
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Monday, Oct 06, 2008 at 12:47
Monday, Oct 06, 2008 at 12:47
Above the fuel
tank....Bugga!!
It could very
well be inside a box section brace or cross member but having said that if you have drilled and found nothing odds on its not there.
Most of the 75's didn't have bucket seats but those 1.5 seats so it may not have had
the nut fitted in the first place for a bucket
seat??
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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Monday, Oct 06, 2008 at 12:54
Monday, Oct 06, 2008 at 12:54
John
There appears to be a box section a bit further towards the back of the troopy.
I can see it with the torh and feel it with the wire.
While the troopy did not have buckets there is one of those punch out holes in the vinyl floor that pretty much sits over the hole I have drilled, so I am thinking it could be there somewhere.
I must tell you that I am fairly dangerous as a DIY mechanic, but I keep trying.
I suppose one more hole won't hurt? LOL
Bob
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Reply By: Topcat (WA) - Monday, Oct 06, 2008 at 12:52
Monday, Oct 06, 2008 at 12:52
Hi Boo Boo,
If you draw a line through the centres of the driver's side
seat rear securing bolt holes & the rear left side passenger
seat bolt hole, then measure 310mm along the line from the centre of the rear left passenger
seat bolt hole, then you will have the position of the hidden captive nut. If it is not in that position then your vehicle does not have the captive nut fitted. That means you will have to drop your fuel
tank & fit a securing plate to bolt your
seat to. Cheers.
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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Monday, Oct 06, 2008 at 13:11
Monday, Oct 06, 2008 at 13:11
Topcat
What you have said is not what I wanted to hear.
Before I drilled my hole I drew a line from the hole on the handbrake side where the captive for the three qtr
seat is, to the centre of the captive near the door and measured back towards the centre of the car 310 mm and thats exactly where I had drilled the hole. No hidden captive.
Other than having a full
tank of fuel is it difficult to drop the
tank.
Its raining at the moment so I can't have a look.
Regards Bob
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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Monday, Oct 06, 2008 at 13:19
Monday, Oct 06, 2008 at 13:19
Topcat
If its any help I have got a floor jack and timber packing I could use to support the
tank.
Bob
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Follow Up By: Topcat (WA) - Monday, Oct 06, 2008 at 13:30
Monday, Oct 06, 2008 at 13:30
No it is not all that difficult if you jackup & properly support your vehicle to give sufficient ground clearance to drop the
tank. It is just a matter of undoing the filler hose clamps at the
tank end, the same with the fuel supply & return lines from the engine at the
tank end, unclipping the fuel gauge sensor plug & unbolting the two fuel
tank support straps, then gently lower down the
tank. (Note: you may have to lower the
tank to get at the fuel gauge sensor plug). Using the floor jack will assist in making the job easier then trying to manhandle it. Best of luck.
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Follow Up By: Topcat (WA) - Monday, Oct 06, 2008 at 13:46
Monday, Oct 06, 2008 at 13:46
Further to my last. When releasing & lowering the
tank, make sure the connecting hoses on the fuel supply & return lines are fully disconnected from the fuel pipes themselves, otherwise you risk bending & possibly breaking the fuel pipes. If you cannot get at them with the
tank in position, undo the nearest to the
tank fuel line support clip, lower the
tank a couple of inches so you can get at the hoses to remve them, Cheers.
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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Monday, Oct 06, 2008 at 14:07
Monday, Oct 06, 2008 at 14:07
Thanks Topcat
Your info is going to be a great help.
This should be fun.
Regards Bob
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic) - Monday, Oct 06, 2008 at 15:37
Monday, Oct 06, 2008 at 15:37
Ok, so you have drilled the hole without drilling the
tank, can you push a nut in there from anywhere attached to a piece of wire/rod. There are lots of Toyota spare parts like that, just to slip and hold it in an awkward place. Incorporate a washer on one side if you can though to spread the load
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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Monday, Oct 06, 2008 at 16:26
Monday, Oct 06, 2008 at 16:26
Thanks John
If it can be done thats sounds a lot easier than lowering the
tank.
Like I have said before on our
forum, I normally leave spanner work to some one else. I prefer to work with timber.
I will post what I end up doing.
Regards Bob
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Reply By: Mikee5 (Logan QLD) - Monday, Oct 06, 2008 at 14:31
Monday, Oct 06, 2008 at 14:31
Hi Bob,
If you are changing the seating like that and fitting plates etc, you may
well need to have the job complianced.
My 100 series was first owned by Qld Police and they took out the front
seat to fit the camera, it was re-complianced as a 4 seater, to sell it they put the
seat back in and again complianced it as a 6 seater.
Mike.
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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Monday, Oct 06, 2008 at 16:28
Monday, Oct 06, 2008 at 16:28
Mike
I will get an engineers certificate.
Regards Bob
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Monday, Oct 06, 2008 at 22:49
Monday, Oct 06, 2008 at 22:49
My 2002 79series had no captive nut, even though the RV version came with bucket seats. I got a
seat fitter to fit two plates and nuts underneath - one for the runner and another for the seatbelt. There is a channel running underneath, so no chance of hitting the
tank in my vehicle, and dropping the
tank would not have helped access. I don't know whether your 75series is the same.
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