Mining in the Sandy 60's and 70's. Pole found marked RCH 2/1015/6
Submitted: Sunday, Oct 12, 2008 at 12:37
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equinox
Hi all,
I was driving in the Sandy Desert and came across an old track bearing approx. north south that did not look like it had been used for decades. I followed the track about 1 kilometre and came across this
metal pole in the ground alongside the track.
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Looking on the internet it seems there was a bit of mining exploration in the area in the 60's and 70's. It's right out there being 80 kms north of
Gary Junction Road and 150 east of the CSR yet only about 10kms north of
Wilson Cliffs. [Pole location - 22 01.343S, 127 02.339E]
Are there any old mining hands out there who could provide any information about it? It would make my day to have an answer to the puzzle.
Regards
Alan
Reply By: Flywest - Sunday, Oct 12, 2008 at 13:24
Sunday, Oct 12, 2008 at 13:24
Equinox,
Hesperien Press here in
Perth (Ozzie
Park?) usually have a printed copy of all old expired mining leases from Dept Mines WA.
If you don't want to buy a black and white print copy tolook it up - reeds prospecting supplies in Maida vale have a copy they might let you view in the
shop.
If it were a still current lease - then the WA dept Mines website has a "tengraph" section where you can look up current mining leases / pegged claims online - but you have to register and get issued a password etc first to be able to access the database.
You might even require a miners right number as
well I think...but don't quote me on that, if so they are only about $25 and last a lifetime.
There was / is a period where large companys now peg VAST exploration leases, just in the hope that if something is found on it - they can claim ownership (those with a miners right can explore on an existing mining tenement as long as they have permission fo the tenement holder. Some Tenement holders allow prospectors with miners rights to explore their tenements for minerals - on an agreemet that any finds a are shared & notified - this then saves paying geologists and drilling rigs to extensively sample...for tenement holders short of cash it sometimes helps define areas worthy of later closer scrutiny/research and investement in a drilling program).
Hopefully those leads might get you started on the trail of discovery...
I'm recently hearing rumours of gold discoveries outside the
well known "Yilgarn formation" (that gold bearing formation that runs basically south east to North west from just west of
Esperance thru to the
Pilbara and includes most of the known goldfields in WA with the exception of the
Kimberley) - out into the central deserts, into areas just such as you describe.
Legends of Lasster drew a LOT of early and even later exploration out into the red centre, people might be surprised how many mining tenements cover this vast state of ours - theres hardly a square inch that someone hasn't got a tenement over these days.
Cheers & good luck chasing it down.
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Follow Up By: equinox - Sunday, Oct 12, 2008 at 14:10
Sunday, Oct 12, 2008 at 14:10
Flywest,
I think you are implying that it could be a peg, indicating the border of a tenament. Could be.
"Tengraph" brings back a few memories. I used it 6 or 7 years ago when I was checking on land tenure on a few areas. I seem to remember giving up as my computer back then was a bit slow to download the "Vector"?? maps. I still have the password somewhere; may have to chase it up.
Those "rumours" never let up. There must be heaps of "Yellow Stuff" around I'm sure.
Thankyou for the detailed answer.
Cheers
Alan
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Reply By: Member - Footloose - Sunday, Oct 12, 2008 at 13:51
Sunday, Oct 12, 2008 at 13:51
No idea sorry, but you certainly were out with the camels up there. Looks to recent for the Hunt Oil people, and they were south a long way of course.
Was that the only old track in that area, or was there one bearing WSW I wonder ? I can't seem to pick up any tracks in this area on G Earth?
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Follow Up By: equinox - Sunday, Oct 12, 2008 at 14:15
Sunday, Oct 12, 2008 at 14:15
Footy,
Definetely the only track in the area that I came across. It was hard to spot and almost completely gone back to nature. I couldn't find it on Google Earth either.
It might have swung around to the west as if it still continued to the south I should have crossed it earlier but as I said it would be easy to miss.
Regards
Alan
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Reply By: Member - Phil B (WA) - Sunday, Oct 12, 2008 at 16:34
Sunday, Oct 12, 2008 at 16:34
Hi Alan,
I suspect it's oil related rather than minerals eg gold.
Like you I have come across a number of welded markers in various designs in the deserts and all so far have been oil related.
As for this one I don't know of it sorry.
There was one on the top track over the
Kennedy Range, did you spot it?
cheers
Phil
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Follow Up By: equinox - Sunday, Oct 12, 2008 at 17:13
Sunday, Oct 12, 2008 at 17:13
Howdy Phil,
Yes - you are right of course about oil rather than gold.
I think this is the one you mean at
Kennedy Range. Would that be yards or feet?
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All the best
Alan
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Sydney. - Sunday, Oct 12, 2008 at 19:00
Sunday, Oct 12, 2008 at 19:00
Alan ,
What are you refering to when you asked " yards or feet " ?
Willie
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Follow Up By: equinox - Sunday, Oct 12, 2008 at 19:10
Sunday, Oct 12, 2008 at 19:10
Hi Willie,
There was a drill hole nearby.
I'm assuming the TD means total depth. I think we changed to metric in '73, I was just a little kid then.
Cheers
Alan
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil B (WA) - Monday, Oct 13, 2008 at 05:22
Monday, Oct 13, 2008 at 05:22
Hi Alan,
Yep that's the one on the top track.
I am sure that it would be feet. If it was yards that would make it over 4
miles deep!
I also looked at the 1:250K Geo maps - nothing mentioned of your
Wilson Cliffs pole.
cheers
P
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Reply By: Member - Dick (Int) - Sunday, Oct 12, 2008 at 17:51
Sunday, Oct 12, 2008 at 17:51
Thats a very lonely area Alan, what were you looking for out there.
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Follow Up By: equinox - Sunday, Oct 12, 2008 at 18:08
Sunday, Oct 12, 2008 at 18:08
I had just visited
Wilson Cliffs (one of Carnegie's features). I found a rockhole of his and one of my own there.
I was heading roughly north west to position myself so I could eventually follow the grain of the sandunes to enable a relatively simple journey to the CSR.
Cheers
Alan
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Reply By: Oldsquizzy (Kununurra) - Sunday, Oct 12, 2008 at 22:19
Sunday, Oct 12, 2008 at 22:19
30 September-3 October, 1996 (ed RCH Shepherd). Weed Science Society of Victoria ... Leeuwen S (1996). Biological survey of the southern
Little Sandy Desert:
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Follow Up By: equinox - Sunday, Oct 12, 2008 at 23:07
Sunday, Oct 12, 2008 at 23:07
Thanks Oldsquizzy,
I've now done a few searches on RHC Shepherd. He (or she) obviously knows all about weeds. I really think though that the degradation of the track would make it a lot earlier than 1996. I also should have made it clearer that it was the
Great Sandy Desert.
Regards
Alan
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