Solar panel

Hi guys
I was hoping some one would be able to help me out with a solar panel I got on ebay, was advertised as suitable for charging 12 volt batteries 12volt 5 wats.
When I put it in direct sun light and check with meter I get 24 volts.
Will this stuff my batteries??
Can I get a resistor to bring it back down to 12 volts.??
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Reply By: Notso - Sunday, Oct 12, 2008 at 13:43

Sunday, Oct 12, 2008 at 13:43
Yes,

It needs a regulator. Otherwise you'll cook the battery.

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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Sunday, Oct 12, 2008 at 14:21

Sunday, Oct 12, 2008 at 14:21
A 5 watt panel is too small to cook anything. see below.

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Reply By: Flywest - Sunday, Oct 12, 2008 at 13:46

Sunday, Oct 12, 2008 at 13:46
You say in your post that you want to charge batteries - plural - hence more than one batery - presumably 2 batteries i.e.2 x 12 volt batteries - i.e. 24 volts requirement.

Just wire the two batteries in series for charging purposes from the solar panel = problemn solvered!

Disclaimer - I know nuttin (as Ol Sgt Schultz would say) bout lectrckery - to me it's just white fella magic, so you might wanna check my suggestion with someone who knows whatthey are doing round lectrcikery!

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Reply By: Nomadic Navara - Sunday, Oct 12, 2008 at 14:20

Sunday, Oct 12, 2008 at 14:20
Solar cells do not produce a constant output voltage. The ones most commonly used to charge 12 V batteries have an open circuit voltage of over 20 V. However they do hot produce much power at this voltage. They produce their highest power output at around 17 V. As you attempt to load them more heavily the voltage drops considerably but the current does not rise much.

Take a look at the facts. Current = power / volts. For your panel current = 5 (W) / 17 (V.) therefore the maximum current will will not be much more than 300 mA.

You measured the open circuit voltage. Now go and measure the short circuit current. If you have a meter with a current range in excess of 300 mA, set it to that range and connect the panel across the meter current terminals. If you have a meter with a 1 A scale or more you will not damage it with your panel. Others can do that with their panels. A 1 A range for panels up to 10 W, a 2 A range for up to 20 W panels and a 10 A range for most of the rest. This is a standard method of checking panels.

As your panel will only put out a very small current you will only be able to charge very small batteries. Your panel will only be able to give a maintenance charge to a decent size battery. I use a 5 W panel WITHOUT a regulator to keep the battery in my wife's Corona charged whilst we are away on our 6 months trips.

You too can use your panel, without a regulator, to keep a battery alive if you are not charging it for a few months. However forget about charging batteries with it unless you get a regulator and another dozen panels to accompany it.

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Follow Up By: Member - John and Val W (ACT) - Sunday, Oct 12, 2008 at 20:12

Sunday, Oct 12, 2008 at 20:12
i lean - I agree with Peter 100%. Your little 5W panel can probably supply enough current to keep a car battery alive when the battery is not in use. You will not need a regulator. It will probably maintain a charge, but not charge a battery which is significantly discharged.

If you want to charge a vehicle size battery, or one that runs a fridge, you'll need much more than 5Watts.

For camping I carry 2 big panels capable of supplying a nominal total of 140W. This is adequate for my energy frugal camp. It requires a regulator to prevent overcharging and this capacity costs about $1500.

Suggest tell us what you plan to use it for and we'll be better able to assist.

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Reply By: MEMBER - Darian (SA) - Sunday, Oct 12, 2008 at 14:28

Sunday, Oct 12, 2008 at 14:28
If you can include the panel's tech specs here (from the rear label), you'll get much better feedback re the query.
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Reply By: Motherhen - Sunday, Oct 12, 2008 at 20:04

Sunday, Oct 12, 2008 at 20:04
As PeterD says, this type of panel is for keeping a charged car battery from going flat when left for periods of time. I considered one of these four daughter's car, but opted for a jump pack as being more useful.

I don't know whether you intention was to keep a car battery topped up, or to use as a power source for a separate battery when camping. For the latter use one 80 w (at least) panel to charge one battery.

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Reply By: NeilT - Sunday, Oct 12, 2008 at 20:33

Sunday, Oct 12, 2008 at 20:33
He doesn't need a regulator but doesn't he need a diode in the circuit to make sure the battery doesn't discharge back through the panel?
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Follow Up By: Member - John and Val W (ACT) - Sunday, Oct 12, 2008 at 22:02

Sunday, Oct 12, 2008 at 22:02
No. The reverse current is negligible.

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