Thread 62474

Baaaaahaaaahaaaaahaaaa .........

Well we know what side of the fence you sit on then dont we ....

I do hope that when load up your 4wd or all wheel drive station wagon and hook it up to your van ... you leave all your hobbies at home.

Lets see .... thought for the day .... I"m going caravanning next week ... so I wont need fishing gear, ham radio gear, astronomy gear, stamp collection, fossicking gear ... just caravanning gear.

The mindset of people in the country has certainly nosedived in tha last 20yrs or so.



overpriced blingfest box and wander off up the road .... probably looking like a lame duck from the rear ... to anybody wishing to overtake you.

Damn pain not being able to edit posts in this forum.

The lat paragraph is not for you ... Gramps

Done it again ... delete Gramps too

Hmmmpphhh .... I refuse to be deleted, so there :)))

Gramps I was ROFLMAO ... untill I read the drivel in your next response.

Oztroopy,

Coming from the likes of you, that's a compliment.

Here Here Gramps. The rules of the post are thrown out the window a lot of times. Best option is to let the rubbish go. Cheers Tony

Hahahahahahaha....Gramps



I am staying out of this one and post 62474


ROTFLMAO


Cheers

"" What on Earth does a gun club have to do with post 62474 ??? Stop trying to turn everything into a pro-gun campaign. ""

A gun club would have PLENTY to do with post 62474. Attendance at clubs is a requirement for a firearms license, in the case of most owners. Attending gun clubs wlist on a trip is one of the few legal reasons to be able to carry a firearm in your vehicle.

Stop trying to turn everything into a anti gun campaign.

"" The poster asked a simple question as to whether he should take a gun on a round Aust trip for protection. The simple answer is/was NO." "

Thats your opinion ... he's entitled to his own. ( or she )

"" Instead of that we had all the usual wannabe Rambos beating their hairy chests and carrying on. ""

Supplemented by the paranoid ... " oooooh its a gun " - " it scares me " crowd.

"" If you think that post was the worst in six years, you have'nt read much on here :))) ""

Public forums are a great thing ... plenty of diversity.

Oztroopy,

As previously stated, a gun club has absolutely nothing to do with whether one should carry a firearm for protection on a trip around Oz. How hard is that to understand ??? Who gives a toss whether it is a licensing requirement or not.

"Stop trying to turn everything into a anti gun campaign"

If you read my posts, you would know how ridiculous that statement is. I have never been anti-gun but then again I am not one of the Rambos on here either.

"Thats your opinion ... he's entitled to his own. ( or she )"

The poster was asking for our opinions. Do you have a problem with that or is the concept too complex for you to understand.

"
Supplemented by the paranoid ... " oooooh its a gun " - " it scares me " crowd"

So anyone who has a different opinion to yours regarding firearms is paranoid. If you bother to read the differing opinions to yours you'll find quite a few firearms owners amongst them.

Perhaps in future you'd like to let Kim answer for himself before entering the fray.

Willem,

Spoil sport hahahahahahahaha

Well Gramps ... your a line caster arent you ... most of the good ones are generally quite adept at presenting things out of context ....

You certainly have that ability down pat.

"" Oztroopy,

As previously stated, a gun club has absolutely nothing to do with whether one should carry a firearm for protection on a trip around Oz. How hard is that to understand ??? Who gives a toss whether it is a licensing requirement or not. ""

You need a legal requirement to carry a firearm with you ... gun club attendance allows this ... unless of course one is a criminal ... are you insinuating that brentos is a crimnial who does not need to adhere to the rules. ????

""Stop trying to turn everything into a anti gun campaign"

If you read my posts, you would know how ridiculous that statement is. I have never been anti-gun but then again I am not one of the Rambos on here either.""

You made the initial statement regarding pro gun campaigns ... that would lead one to presume you have a stance on the matter. I just gave you YOUR quote back ... reversed.

""Thats your opinion ... he's entitled to his own. ( or she )"

The poster was asking for our opinions. Do you have a problem with that or is the concept too complex for you to understand.""

Yes ... opinions was what was wanted ... hence the reason your emphatic statement ... " The simple answer is/was NO " required addressiing.

""Supplemented by the paranoid ... " oooooh its a gun " - " it scares me " crowd"

So anyone who has a different opinion to yours regarding firearms is paranoid. If you bother to read the differing opinions to yours you'll find quite a few firearms owners amongst them.""

My comment was in reply to your stereotyping other individuals .. not in regard to others views. Both sides have their extremists ... and if you actually read my comments .. you will find they are very 'middle of the road'.

Kim ????? .... I responded to your post.

Copy and paste the item you are responding to at the top of the reply page ... helps keep you on subject and dealing with the actual comments.

Happy trails .....

Oztroopy,

You have once again demonstrated that you have absolutely no idea at all. Brentos first has to decide whether taking a weapon is necessary. The legalities then get sorted out AFTER that decision is made.

I truly hope you don't work in any official capacity for the SSAA or the like. Sporting shooters are doomed if we are represented by your logic.

Well Gramps ... now I'm starting to understand your " logic ".

Its obviously your preference ... to do what ever comes into your mind ... and then worry about whether it meets rules and regulations / reality / or social acceptance ........

Bit like your forum responses .....

... " Copy and paste the item you are responding to at the top of the reply page ... helps keep you on subject and dealing with the actual comments " ...

Happy trails .....

Oztroopy,

As stated previously, you have no idea at all. Since when does deciding whether to take a weapon constitute a breach of any law? It's only a decision, not an action. Obviously a concept far beyond your comprehension.

Once the decision is made to take the weapon, then he needs to consider the legalities.

Whats the go Gramps ???? .... my middle of the road attitude aggravates you and you want some hissing and spitting ????

" a person like me "
" no idea at all "

Show some literary skill and give me something to work with .... not the schoolyard name calling and innuendo.

Ya know, even after a good meal and time to think ... I still cant work out why you dont .. in the case of firearm carrying ... consider that the legalities are a part of the ... will I or wont I ... decision making process ... particularly now that you purport to be a sporting shooter member.

According to you ... and I quote ...........

"Who gives a toss whether it is a licensing requirement or not."

"Once the decision is made to take the weapon, then he needs to consider the legalities."

Those comments could have come straight out of a b grade yank redneck movie ... Could that have something to do with your singlemindedness ... And I'm a threat to the SSAA .... pffft

In actual fact ... A decision is something that someone intends to put into practice. To make a decision .. a logical person takes into account, all the things that affect that decision.

Only an child or an illogical person would make a decision without considering the ramifications.

I guess the only way to sort this is for me to apologise .... So I apologise for comprehending ( even though I cant according to you ) and taking into consideration the following:

Legalities,
Storage Space,
Security,
State Licensing requirements,
ammunition storage,
Accessibility
Need & Opportunity for use, etc. ....

Prior to deciding whether I would take a gun around Australia.

In this day and age of over legislation, all of the above items are just as important as actual weapon handling skills.

And lets face it .... if a person doesn't have at least a passing knowledge of any of it ... they shouldn't be putting a firearm in thier vehicle.

Oztroopy,

It's obvious that something has to be spelt out very simply for you to understand. Conversely, you seem to equate literary skill with verbal diarrhoea. I'll attempt to satisfy you on both fronts.

The original poster (brentos - guns) asked for our opinions on whether there was a need to carry a firearm for protection on a trip around OZ. He has a firearms license but does not own a firearm.

In the original thread I replied:
"The perceived need to carry a firearm for protection on a trip in Australia says a lot about the mental state and capability of the person concerned. Definitely not the type that should have a firearms license IMHO.

ps Yes, I am a firearms owner."

Did that comment upset you ? It appears not as you did'nt have the balls to reply to it then. By the way, I still stand by that comment.

Name calling ? I don't recall calling you any names other than Oztroopy. Redneck, schoolboy, etc - your words. Just a tad hypocritical are'nt you. I'll accept your gracious apology for the name calling though. Innuendo I'll cop, just matching yours.

As above, the original question regarded protection and firearms. Deciding if a need exists for protection comes well before the legalities. I am amazed that "Need" appears last in your list. If there is no "Need" then the rest of your list is superfluous. My logic is to address the key issues i.e. "Need" first as then you won't waste time on trivialities. You obviously follow the public sector dictum of making work where there is none.

If, however, it is decided that there is a "Need", then your list has to be considered. As brentos is already licensed, he is probably well aware of the legalities. I don't have to consider your list as I don't believe there is a "Need".

I hope that is both simple and verbose enough to satisfy you.

Now lets get to the crux of the matter. In both these threads there were quite a few posters who expressed a similar opinion to mine. Both gun owners and non owners. Obviously, since you concentrated on my reply to Kim, either you have a personal axe to grind with me or you are engaged in some minor official type work with a gun club or such. Or ......... are you really Kim of "Kim and Damn Dog" fame, travelling incognito, since he does'nt seem to have the balls to respond to replies to his own thread. He just goes off and starts yet another thread.

Gramps ... Just to get back on track ...

Your reply post to Kim and his damn dog ....
AnswerID: 329787 Submitted: Tuesday, Oct 14, 2008 at 02:46

Gramps (NSW) replied:

What on Earth does a gun club have to do with post 62474 ??? Stop trying to turn everything into a pro-gun campaign.

The poster asked a simple question as to whether he should take a gun on a round Aust trip for protection. The simple answer is/was NO. Instead of that we had all the usual wannabe Rambos beating their hairy chests and carrying on.


And my followup reply to your post in which I pasted your statements as reference: ....
FollowupID: 597285 Submitted: Tuesday, Oct 14, 2008 at 10:43

OzTroopy posted:

"" What on Earth does a gun club have to do with post 62474 ??? Stop trying to turn everything into a pro-gun campaign. ""

A gun club would have PLENTY to do with post 62474. Attendance at clubs is a requirement for a firearms license, in the case of most owners. Attending gun clubs wlist on a trip is one of the few legal reasons to be able to carry a firearm in your vehicle.

Stop trying to turn everything into a anti gun campaign.

"" The poster asked a simple question as to whether he should take a gun on a round Aust trip for protection. The simple answer is/was NO." "

Thats your opinion ... he's entitled to his own. ( or she )

"" Instead of that we had all the usual wannabe Rambos beating their hairy chests and carrying on. ""

Supplemented by the paranoid ... " oooooh its a gun " - " it scares me " crowd.

"" If you think that post was the worst in six years, you have'nt read much on here :))) ""

Public forums are a great thing ... plenty of diversity.

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My responses to your post were clearly defined by pasting your statements followed by my comments.

In the case of your first statement I gave a valid reason for a gun club being relevant to the carriage of a firearm ... something I presumed useful for all readers ... followed by a simple, matching retort to your "pro-gun" comment.

In your second statement you emphatically made a point about whether someone should carry a firearm around Aust ... I simply made mention that it was the individuals choice.

In your third statement you provided YOUR description of what I presumed was a percentage of firearm owners. ... that deserved a retort which aptly described their equivalents in the non firearm owner camp.

In your final statement of your post you suggested that there are plenty of heated debates on this forum ... and I agreed with you.



From there the posts went downhill rather rapidly ...

As I understand it ... the CRUX of the matter is the two posts shown above.

I personally would find it difficult to believe that any properly registered/licensed firearm owner who is also a Member of a Gun Club would even consider taking a firearm for "Personal Protection" which was the primary point made by brentos in his "Guns" post.
(Let alone try and use the gun club excuse to legitimize the carrying for "Personal Protection")

Yes I can believe that a registered/licensed firearms owner who is a Member of a Gun Club would certainly transport a gun with the express intention of undertaking respective shooting activities in conjunction with a gun club he was intent on visiting.

Its obvious the above two points are not linked, different reasons entirely for the carrying of a firearm.

I also believe that this is why Kim and Damn Dog was getting upset with the attitudes of some on here who advocate the carrying of firearms for the purpose of "Personal Protection" or those who insinuate the possible use of a gun for settling a dispute or event with others such as some have advocated or insinuated with such statements in other posts (61764) as "On the basis there were about 10 of them and one of me plus a shotgun"

Its obvious from his posts that Kim is a properly licensed/registered shooter who is a member of a Gun Club that works pretty hard to maintain a good, safe and responsible gun ownership image so that the sport is not adversely targeted for the Rambo image that some less responsible gun owners portray.

Its also obvious that there are also responsible gun owners on here who are not Gun Club Members but also advocate the non carrying of firearms for "Personal Protection" and only for legitimate Sporting Shooting activities.

Reading all these gun posts also shows not one "Anti Gun" comment by non shooters/non gun owners, only objection to the "Rambo" and "I need for self protection" image and comments made by some.
I include myself in this point. I am not "Anti Gun" and whilst not a licensed Shooter I have enjoyed aspects of the sport with licensed owners at places like Gun Clubs over the years and have no problem with the concept of Sporting Shooters as such.

I like the way the proponents for carrying guns for self protection try and support the argument with stories like the croc attack in which the croc was shot.
Its a one off story that compared to the tens of thousands of people who camp and travel safely in high risk croc areas every year show that the risk is so small as to be non existent and certainly "One" such incident does not support the carrying for "Self Protection".

The same applies to the Falcone Murder and the Kimberly Killer, how many hundreds of thousands travel and camp in this country every year compared to the couple of incidents that have happened over the years, there is just no tangible risk to use these incidents as justification to carry a gun for "Self Protection"

Think about how many commercial airliners have fallen out of the sky over the years for various reasons killing lots more people than croc's or gun toting outback killers and yet I don't see anyone advocating we don't fly in commercial jets, Why is this??

G'day John (vic)

All good points.

Bit concerned though ... about your statement regarding gun clubs being used to legitimise self protection.

Had to have another read through the whole lot again ... to find that Kim mentions gunclubs in his post ... probably because he wants the uninitiated to visit and see the professional conduct, and I mentioned them, as attending them is one of the few legitimate reasons for having firearm in your vehicle.

Did I miss a post ... ??????

Oz T post 62474 was purely a post about carrying for "Self protection"

brentos asked "would i take a gun with me for protection for my family cause you never know who or what is out there,be it animals or humans, to ruin your life"

brentos did not mention Gun Clubs at all.

Many of the posts since over various threads have turned the reason for carrying a gun to various legitimate reasons one such as to be used at a Gun Club.
This is correct and Gun Club use is a very legitimate reason to transport or carry a gun in your vehicle.
The same as carrying or transporting a gun to hunt is also a legitimate reason to carry a gun in your vehicle.

There is no way I would believe that a responsible licensed gun owner who is a Member of a Gun Club would try and legitimize or use as an excuse the carrying for "Self protection" with the excuse of carrying to use at a gun club.

Gramps comment is correct in my view, The Gun Club issue does not have anything to do with the "Self Protection" issue raised by brentos in his original post.

Cheers

Cheers John ....

Still at a loss though ... as to who said gunclub use would legitimise carrying a firearm for self protection.

In this thread ..........

Kim expressed his distaste at the responses on the other thread and basically offered an invite for people to visit a club.

The way I read it, his gun club comment had nothing to do with Brentos or carrying a firearm for self protection. It was a suggestion to allow people to gain a better understanding of firearm owners I presume, rather than have people think that all of them, are the same as the extremists that get so wound up on these topics.

" Gramps " is the one who who hijacked the thread and turned it into gunclubs and self protection issues and dragging other threads into the fray. Not to mention constantly avoiding points or posting totally unrelated comments as replies.

I just responded to one of his comments with the fact that club attendance is one of the few legal reasons for carrying a firearm ...

By the same token and logically, if you are aware of the rules, carrying for personal protection is not ........ ( unless for work blah blah blah ) So anyone making a decision to carry a firearm against the rules is likely to have their holiday cut short and get sent on one of a different nature. ( wink )

The Brentos Guns thread is the Brentos Guns thread ... this one is about someones view on behaviour and an opportunity to see things differently ... firsthand.

The only reason I can see for all these replies, that have been going on is because Gramps has decided that I'll be a good target to stir up, or he doesnt like anyone who doesn't totally agree with him, responding to his posts. ... and Im enjoying his embarrassment as payback for his initial unprovoked comments in this thread.

Given we have the same views on the suitability of firearms for self protection against man or animal ... I dont know why he has knickers in a knot.

And since every body else keeps dragging posts from the OTHER thread in here ... and just to make my position clear in regards to firearm carrying as personal protection ..;


FollowupID: 597116 Submitted: Monday, Oct 13, 2008 at 16:30
OzTroopy posted:
Hey Brentos,

Just having a read through the responses should answer your initial question ... lol

Basically a firearm is like a fire extinguisher ... if its not easily accessible and charged for use ... its worthless.

Current legislation, gun paranoia and the lack of respect for other peoples property ( ie theft ) make it impossible for a responsible owner to have a firearm available for use in despatching an injured animal etc quickly.

Just keep a 1/2 drive socket bar alongside your drivers seat - use it as nescessary.

Aaaahhh .. so it was just personal all along Oztroopy. You were just too gutless to admit it. You pathetic hypocrite. Bye.

Baaahaaahaaaa.............

I'm seriously becoming worried about your state of well being ... or is your lack reasoning caused by maybe having your monitor mounted sideways making the words hard to read .............

The last sentence in this paragraph DOESN'T mean it was personal .... It means YOU MADE IT personal, during the course of the posts.

FollowupID: 597657 Submitted: Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 14:44
OzTroopy posted:
"The only reason I can see for all these replies, that have been going on is because Gramps has decided that I'll be a good target to stir up, or he doesnt like anyone who doesn't totally agree with him, responding to his posts. ... and Im enjoying his embarrassment as payback for his initial unprovoked comments in this thread."

BTW - you forgot to mention you had wasted a heap of time by by starting all this because you didnt read the initial thread post properly.

Methinks you may have a personal vendetta against Kim and his dog ... and in your obvious insecurity ... anybody you construe as " being on his side ".

And as for personal ... Lets just say .... You ensured it BECAME personal with me, by about your third or fourth post ......

Your plethora of antagonistic, off topic posts finally got the better of my better judgement. But ... its all good ... at least I know I wont have to waste my time reading any of your further posts - on any subject.

1/. Coming from the likes of you, that's a compliment.

2/. " You have once again demonstrated that you have absolutely no idea at all. " ..... " Sporting shooters are doomed if we are represented by your logic. "

3/. " As stated previously, you have no idea at all. " ..... " Obviously a concept far beyond your comprehension. "

4/. " Conversely, you seem to equate literary skill with verbal diarrhoea. " ..... " It appears not as you did'nt have the balls to reply to it then. "

Whilst I will concede that these are fairly mild comments ... you ensured that the constant use of them instead of posting anything of relevance caused the result you wanted.

Congratulations ... you got what you wanted ... and a lot more besides ... You will just probably never realise it. LOLOLOL

Finally though, you eventually posted something of worth ......

FollowupID: 597794 Submitted: Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 21:43
Gramps (NSW) posted:

Bye.

Regards


Al

If you have lost a family member due to a firearm incident Daza, I sympathise wholeheartedly with you.

Just as I do, for all those who have suffered loss from motor vehicle accidents - which incidentally, occur more often.

Maybe you and I could get firearms and vehicles removed from australian daily life.

No Family Members, just a couple of Mates, might have been before you where Born, late 1960's.

No Daza ... not before I was born.

I presume you are referring to that ridiculous SE Asia incident we had no need to be involved in ????.

OzTroopy,
Maybe, just maybe, some of the blokes that served in SVN don't think they were involved in a ridiculous incident!

Dennis P ...

My apologies ... yopu have it out of context.

Our countries involvement is what I am referring to ... not the situation its miltary was placed in nor the exemplary performance of the troops.

Having been in a unit with 5 battle honours from that period, I am unlikely to denigrate those who earnt them.

OzTroopy

Just gotta make sure you mount it far enough to the rear ... so that when it fires ... the back blast doesnt scorch the paint off your roof .... LOLOLOL

.............well then..........Image Could Not Be Found

Yes, we have a few Grumpy Old Men on the Forum, but its so easy to Skip and read some thing else.

Hey Mark

Thats a cute photo of yourself when you were a Baby


Cheers
Daza

spot on DAZA................Image Could Not Be Found

Mark,

Is that a baby photo of Hairs?? LMAO

Cheers Kev

Daimantina

You are not a Member here so you have no commitment to the site. So threatening to leave doesn't really wash. It is up to you however. 99% of the material on this Forum is good value.

I have been here since 2002 and we have had some classic stoushes, arguments, name calling, bleep words and more.
Some protagonists have been on here for a long time and go Fishing for arguments or elicit negative responses. Then there are the TROLL posts mainly during school holidays.

All of this is part of human nature but our agression towards one another via the internet medium is unwarranted and I have been guilty of that too at times. It is very easy to sit here at a keyboard and vent whatever feelings you may have without any consequences. Many people may post late at night after consuming a number of beverages which may or may not cloud their judgement.

A funtion of this site is ALERT MODERATOR. In here you may go to the Management of this site and make a suggestion or ask for a post to be removed giving your valid reasons. It is then up to the Management to make up therir minds what they want to do. Sometimes Management delete a post without a request being made if they feel it is contrary to the site image.

Cheers

Further to what young Willem has said, I did a search of "Diamantina" and frankly found nothing. That is to say, what has been your contribution to this wonderful site that makes you feel you have some right to lambaste it?

Whilst a lot of the banter in the said thread was quite childish, most of those involved have actually contributed significant content over the years, which has made this the place it is.

Jim.

Hey Kev,
I've never been that Cute.
Fysh will testify to that.

I've got a head like a smashed crab.

Hairs,

I hate to think what Marks looks like then LOL

an oil painting KevImage Could Not Be Found

Diamantina,

I have been visiting the site for a while and have now become a member.

You can sift through the crap if you want to however I have picked up some very usefull information .

I find the CRAP quite humerous at times and after all we do live in a democracy and free speech is what its all about.

Lighten up.

Cheers

So ... be disgusted ....

I'm more concerned about the right and left attitudes displayed rather than how they are displayed.

The obvious lack of commonsense and middle ground shown by the vocal percentage of the population is imho, what has this country in the state is in now.

But its a public forum ... so be what may .....

WILLEM, I’LL START WITH YOU:

>“You are not a Member here so you have no commitment to the site. So threatening to leave doesn't really wash. It is up to you however. 99% of the material on this Forum is good value.”

If me saying that I am seriously thinking of leaving doesn’t wash with you, then that is fine by me. I have read this forum for a couple of years now, I ‘registered’ - (is that what it is called?) – in about July, with a view to eventually upgrading that to membership; Which means that if I leave now then you have lost a potential paying member.

>“I have been here since 2002 and we have had some classic stoushes, arguments, name calling, bleep words and more.
Some protagonists have been on here for a long time and go Fishing for arguments or elicit negative responses. Then there are the TROLL posts mainly during school holidays.”

I won’t complain about the stoushes, arguments, name calling etc, being the exception rather than the rule. What I am seeing is it becoming the rule rather than the exception. I often see someone start a thread with worthwhile information or a question, somebody will reply, - sensibly or not, - and there starts a page or two of name calling, ‘bleeps’ etc, etc, etc. I DO NOT APPRECIATE THAT. (I don’t remember straight off the names of the ringleaders.)

>“All of this is part of human nature but our aggression towards one another via the internet medium is unwarranted and I have been guilty of that too at times. It is very easy to sit here at a keyboard and vent whatever feelings you may have without any consequences. Many people may post late at night after consuming a number of beverages which may or may not cloud their judgement.”

I agree, and I am of the view that we should ALL (me included) ask ourselves “Would I say this to so-n-so if they were standing next to me in front of everyone that is on this forum??”

>“A function of this site is ALERT MODERATOR. In here you may go to the Management of this site and make a suggestion or ask for a post to be removed giving your valid reasons. It is then up to the Management to make up their minds what they want to do. Sometimes Management delete a post without a request being made if they feel it is contrary to the site image.”

Thank you for drawing that to my attention, I was unaware that I as a non-Member was able to do that. I am prepared to say to management everything that I have said here if that is necessary.

JIM,:

>“Further to what young Willem has said, I did a search of "Diamantina" and frankly found nothing. That is to say, what has been your contribution to this wonderful site that makes you feel you have some right to lambaste it?”

Where did you search??? I searched for myself and came up with all the posts that I have written, a lot of other stuff came up as well, but all my posts are there. I won’t say that the little I have contributed has been unworthwhile, nor will I say it has been worthwhile, but maybe have another look. If you like I could find the posts in question and link to them for you.

>“Whilst a lot of the banter in the said thread was quite childish, most of those involved have actually contributed significant content over the years, which has made this the place it is.”

I don’t doubt for one minute that they (whoever ‘they’ are) haven’t contributed significant content over the years; all I said was that the majority of posts in thread 62474 were disgraceful. I then made a general comment that the overall standard of this forum has gone downhill noticeably.

DAZA – please see my reply in paragraph 2.

I also wish to make the point – If I have been put off by the content of the threads, who else has?? How many supporters & paying members are ‘we’ losing by what is being written??
It took me a long time to pluck up the courage to post for the first time because I couldn’t be sure of the reception I would get – would I be blasted or not??

I have found useful information and I appreciate the vast experience of many of you on this forum, and thank those who have graciously replied to my questions etc. All I am asking for a tidying of the tone of the place. I read a couple of other forums, and the whole atmosphere on them is far lighter, brighter, and friendlier to those who come in from outside - and I assure you that there is language and comments that I would regard as unacceptable.

I have said what I wish to say, and unless I have am seriously mistaken on a point, then I would like to leave the matter there.
-D-

Yer full of aggro

Bye Bye Diamantina

Well, I'm a reasonable man, so I tried searching harder.

Had to go back to 3/9 to find a six line contribution about the Darling River Run. During that time you asked two questions.

Ipso facto that is a 2 to 1 take/give ratio.

Contributors here generally go about 20 to 1 in the opposite direction.

Jim.

Diamantina,

I agree with you on one point. Posters using foul language should be barred. Don't care if they're Members, Visitors or Customers. Absolutely no need for it.

you lot have ambushed this thread...its supposed to be about guns, not us members or non members squabble

Quite correct Nudie.

We ought be ashamed.

I think I'll shoot myself. On track enough?

Jim.

Hey Nude-nut

Pull yer ears in..............................................hahahahaha

stop pickin on me ears...i cant help it ....blame me swmbo (no it wasnt me mum) its swmbo...she drags me around by them when she goes shopping for jewellry

MEMBER NO. 1

do they double as riding stirrups on the work bench?

Diamantina,

you say you are a "potential paying member".

When I had my shop that's how a shoplifter referred to himself.

He's a thief until he gets caught then he's a "potential paying" customer.

What a joke.

I kicked him out on his lying, thieving cheapskate arse.

Love it! hahahaha

" and your car breaks down".......SHOOT THE BLOODY THING.

Cheers....Lionel.

So what do you do "when a car load of pi$$ed white fellas pull up to offer you a lift"

sing out Mateeeeeeeeeeeeeeete... LOL

Gidday Hairy

Yer your right. I was working late and had a few charges. Think I'll give the site a miss for a while.

Regards

Kim

Hey Richard,
"So what do you do "when a car load of pi$$ed white fellas pull up to offer you a lift"

Probably make sure I don't have a run in my fishnet stockings, my lippy's not smudged and jump in.
ROFTFLMAO

No you don't want to picture it ;-)

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Wow Mark

Is that your work Clobber?,

You people who live at Maclean certainly, no how to Brighten up the
Night,

How do you change gears in that truck you drive, with that short
dress? as I said WOW WOW WOW.

Hairs & Fysh (NSW)

what ever you want to wear is fine by me, just call in if you ever make it to WA..
weirdo..

that was ment to read "just don't call in if you ever make it to WA" ;-(

Geeeezzz

Thats one ugly wog!

Kim and Dam Dog

Crikey I bet you never thought this would go so far.

I have carried a gun around for some years as part of my job and will still do so when visiting remote areas but not necessarily to ward of would be axe murderers.

Ive found it does give some comfort when camping alone in country 150km north east of Newman where you can hear the dingos howling at night.

Call me a woose but thats how I see it.

Cheers

Richard i believe that is what is called a Freudian Slip...and i don't mean the garment type slip....LOL