Cargo Barrier for LC 100S 2004d

Submitted: Wednesday, Oct 15, 2008 at 11:49
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I have just read threat 62560. I have been wondering whether I should install a barrier or not, but feel it may interfer with my set up in the back and limit storage space even further. Most things that are stacked in the back are tied down with straps etc, but yes there is the odd loose thing that could cause a problem.

From a general point of view has anyone had any issues with installing them in the LC 100 serious.

The pic gives you an idea of my back end, obviously it is not loaded up.

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Can you get barriers to just cover the area between the roof and back of the back seat? Any idea what the approximate cost?
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Reply By: troopyman - Wednesday, Oct 15, 2008 at 11:57

Wednesday, Oct 15, 2008 at 11:57
A half barrier is only for installing on top of drawers and they are not rated for the application you want and installers will not install them . The half barriers have anchor points on the bottom so where are they going to anchor to if there is nothing there . You may think a cargo barrier will allow you to pack less but i have found i can pack more because you can pack right to the roof line . Heavy things on the floor and lighter things the further up you go . Go to a reputable milford installer and you wont look back , well not without a reversing camera anyway .
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Follow Up By: Member - Troll 81 (QLD) - Wednesday, Oct 15, 2008 at 12:21

Wednesday, Oct 15, 2008 at 12:21
I second that
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Follow Up By: OzTroopy - Wednesday, Oct 15, 2008 at 14:21

Wednesday, Oct 15, 2008 at 14:21
From what I have seen ... the majority of barriers are fitted in the following manner:

Step 1/. With a 25mmm holesaw bore holes in the upper, inner bodywork and roof liner. It is important to ensure that the pilot drill contacts the outside body skin enough to cause paintwork damage.

Step 2/. drill a second 12mm near the first hole. alignment is not a consideration as the whole can be enlarged to make up for any poor measurement.

Step 3/. insert an unpainted block of steel through the larger hole and fit mounting bolts through barrier mounts into threaded holes in steel block. Tighten bolts to ensure roofliner is damaged 20mm beyond the original 25mmm hole drilled. Do not use seatbelt type spacer as this will not allow damage to the roof lining.

Step 4/. Carry out the same process to vehicle floor and carpet.

At no time is the installer to vac out iron filings or paint exposed edges of holes ... this will result in ptotecting the customers vehicle against rust.

A half height barrier could easily be fitted using the above procedure. Instead of the floor process ... the interior panel work at window sill height could be swiss cheesed to allow the fitting of the barrier mounting blocks and brackets.
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Follow Up By: troopyman - Wednesday, Oct 15, 2008 at 16:32

Wednesday, Oct 15, 2008 at 16:32
Nonsense .
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Follow Up By: OzTroopy - Wednesday, Oct 15, 2008 at 17:57

Wednesday, Oct 15, 2008 at 17:57
" Nonsense " ..... how do you figure that ......

Unless of course you are a fitter of these items and wish to defend what I have described as found on 3 out of 5 vehicles with barriers fitted.

The 4th was more professionally done, apart from the filings and exposed metal, and the 5th only used the seat belt mounts.

Prickle wanted to know how to fit a half height barrier. Using the same mounting method on the sill panels, would be no weaker structurally, than using the floor and inner roof support sheet metal as the barrier manufacturers do.

If the sill panel is not strong enough ... then what is the liability of vehicle manufacturers in regards to spare wheels mounted on them.

pffffft.
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Wednesday, Oct 15, 2008 at 18:37

Wednesday, Oct 15, 2008 at 18:37
hahahah Oztroopy change your installer. I have had several fitted in Warrnambool and never had a zot of trouble with them. All have been professionally installed with the minimum of damage done.
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Follow Up By: OzTroopy - Wednesday, Oct 15, 2008 at 19:23

Wednesday, Oct 15, 2008 at 19:23
LOL Bonz ....

Believe me, if it was the quality of work provided ... at my request for fitting, I would be name dropping the installers long and loud .....

All the examples were in second hand purchases or friends vehicles.

Good to see you have someone in your area who takes pride in their work.
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Follow Up By: Member - Prickle (SA) - Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 12:48

Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 12:48
Thanks for you input guys.
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Reply By: chisel - Wednesday, Oct 15, 2008 at 13:06

Wednesday, Oct 15, 2008 at 13:06
As with any vehicle, you do lose a couple of inches of space behind the rear seats in the 100 series when you have a barrier. Some people have minimised this by modifying/turning the straps usedat the barrier mounts, but you'll still lose a bit - so if you're gear in the back is currently tight up against the back seat (and no space at the tailgate end) then you may have an issue. But as others have said, the positives outweigh the negatives and you can more effectively use the full height in the back.

I can dig up a pic of mine if you like - or try lcool.org.
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Follow Up By: Member - Prickle (SA) - Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 12:50

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Thanks Chisel,
Yep post the pics so I can have a look.
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Reply By: Member - Wim (Qld) - Wednesday, Oct 15, 2008 at 13:58

Wednesday, Oct 15, 2008 at 13:58
Prickle.

I have installed the half hight barrier on top of my draw set in my LC 100.

Have install a number of small items (epirb, inverter, fire extinguisher ect) on the mesh.

I am interested in the padding your photo shows. In particular the tailgate cover. Are these commercially available?

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Follow Up By: Member - Prickle (SA) - Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 12:54

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I think due to the way I have things set up, the half barrier would be more suitable, will have to have a look at it.

The whole back of the LC is covered with a canvas insert includes a flap over the tail gate. Not commercially available, just went into a canvas place told them what I wanted and they made it up. Made local (Adelaide) cost me $300 at the time.

I then cut a marine ply plate for the base, secured by the tie down points, also put other tie down points on this plate for boxes, fridge etc.

Means I can take things out, put the mower in the back with other stuff and not have to worry about the carpet and plastic getting damaged.
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Reply By: Member - evren1 (WA) - Wednesday, Oct 15, 2008 at 18:05

Wednesday, Oct 15, 2008 at 18:05
with out a dout, I can fit more in my 100 now than I could before I had draws and a barrier installed.
Stuff packs up neatly, more important it is accessable, can be packed right up to the roof and no safety concerns especially with the maggot in the back. only thing different is surfboards have to go on the roof now!

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Follow Up By: Member - Prickle (SA) - Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 12:56

Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 12:56
Thanks for the feedback.

I miss the hi lux, had a canopy on it and was able to pack it to the rafters, so the barrier is certainly a consideration.
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Reply By: Member - Shane D (QLD) - Wednesday, Oct 15, 2008 at 18:27

Wednesday, Oct 15, 2008 at 18:27
Hi Prickle,
Have no Idea on cost's ,etc, My cruiser came with one.
I can't lay down the rear seat for the long stuff that I seldom carry, and I have taken out the barrier just for the space for the "one off" events, but now my HF is mounted permantly on it.
I now have an opposite lock roofrack for the long stuff (light) or get a trailer.
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Follow Up By: Member - Shane D (QLD) - Wednesday, Oct 15, 2008 at 18:34

Wednesday, Oct 15, 2008 at 18:34
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Not anywhere as neat as Evrem1 set up but still you can go to the roof if need be
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Follow Up By: Member - Prickle (SA) - Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 12:59

Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 12:59
Thanks Shane, yep, will certainly have a bit more stacking space.
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