Codan NGT
Submitted: Wednesday, Oct 15, 2008 at 20:12
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blue one
Just whacked the new NGT into the Patrol. Great system, the range and clarity is exceptional.
There is a pretty steep learning curve, though owning a Codan before helps alot.
Has anyone used a Super Rod before and if so what's the story.
Does it have the vibe?
Cheers
Reply By: Member - Footloose - Wednesday, Oct 15, 2008 at 20:23
Wednesday, Oct 15, 2008 at 20:23
Like any long aerial of the appropriate length, they work
well. But not while mobile :))
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Reply By: Member - Rod N (QLD) - Wednesday, Oct 15, 2008 at 20:29
Wednesday, Oct 15, 2008 at 20:29
See ThreadID: 60952. Discussion here about it.
Rod
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Reply By: MEMBER - Darian (SA) - Wednesday, Oct 15, 2008 at 21:21
Wednesday, Oct 15, 2008 at 21:21
Any Super Rod users I've 'commed' with all seem very happy with it... far as I know, it is just a device for conveniently elevating 9 metres (or so) of wire.... most autotunes use whips to a max of around 1.8m, being a practical compromise so long wires (in various arrangements) nearly always add great performance. I have heard (and seen) first hand though that some autotunes don't tune all commonly available frequencies on the long wire... the 14Meg area is one that I recall .... some networks (including their Radphone functions) use even higher numbers so they might be out of the auto's range too. Guess the usefulness of the beast is related to which frequencies you will be needing.
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Reply By: Abraxxas - Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 11:21
Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 11:21
Hi Blue one
I recently installed the NGT and I agree, range & clarity are exceptional however, I'm disappointed that Codan does not allow users to program the radio. Any frequencies you want add to the NGT have to be programmed by a dealer who naturally wants to be paid for the time it takes.
My previous HF was a Barrett 950, also a very good radio and I found it easier to use than the NGT. The Barrett gave users the freedom to program frequencies.
Cheers,
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Follow Up By: VH-GU4 - Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 16:07
Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 16:07
You can still free tune to any frequency and listen in on, just not Tx. The place you brought the radio from should just install the freq for you at no cost if they are a good mob.
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Follow Up By: Member - Craig D (SA) - Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 16:21
Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 16:21
As far as programming goes for the NGT I have had three different programs uploaded by the dealer for nil cost - just outlined what I wanted and they did the rest. And yes, as VH-GU4 has said, you can Free Tune anywhere from 2 - 30 MHz anyway and TX is only allowable as far as the usage of your licence allows.
What Rec Version is with your NGT blue one?
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Follow Up By: Abraxxas - Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 16:28
Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 16:28
Thanks Guys. At the time of purchase I was told to provide all the frequencies I wanted programmed into the radio. I have since decided to join an additional
HF radio club which means at least 10 more frequencies need to go in. I'm told there will be an additional cost every time I want to alter, add, delete data in the NGT. However, since posting a fellow club member with Codan approval has offered to add the frequencies.
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Reply By: Member - Craig D (SA) - Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 15:27
Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 15:27
Gidday blue one,
I have an NGT and also use a Super Rod. As said above, it's just a collapsible 'squid pole' with a light gauge wire running up its centre. The wire is approx 9metres in length and thus equals 1/4 wavelength for VKS Channel 2 (8 Mhz). Due to the design of the Codan autotune the Super Rod requires an L/C matching network to enable it to tune to 5Mhz. I use Bushphone frequencies regularly and do not have too many problems tuning their frequencies. As far as performance goes I usually have the base operators reporting me as very strong when logging in and using the SuperRod (compared to my SS whip side-by-side). Admittedly they are not cheap and you'll need the matching network for a Codan, however, they perform as advertised, take up little room, and they have the added benefit of being able to be used a back-up should your autotune become u/s (just stick the SupeRod's wire in the back of the txer, lay the rod on the ground and bang away on 8Mhz.
Cheers.
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Reply By: blue one - Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 18:41
Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 18:41
Thanks to all for your advice.
Cheers
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Reply By: Tony MD - Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 20:13
Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 20:13
The Codan 9350 auto tune antenna will tune an extended wire so long as the length is less than a quarter wave length. Use the formula 300 divided by the frequency in MHZ to give a full wave length in metres.
Example 8022 KHZ (8.022 MHZ) has a wave length of 37.39 metres.
A 1/4 wave is 9.35 metres.
No additional matching network is required as it is already there in the auto tune antenna.
The wire can be supported by a 9 metre or shorter squid pole that should cost less than $100.00.
By doing the math, you will see that this 9 metre wire will not tune frequencies over 8022 KHZ.
The reason that performance is enhanced is due to better radiation efficiency with an antenna close to a full 1/4 wave length.
I have found that there is no need to remove the Codan whip when using the squid pole, I just connect the wire into the spring.
Do not confuse this antenna with a long wire antenna. A long wire antenna is many wave lengths long.
Cheers, Tony.
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Reply By: blue one - Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 22:34
Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 22:34
Thanks Tony
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