240 volt in to CT

All Equipment fitted must be double pole activated.

This means when you turn it on/off it breaks 2 circuits not just one.

MAtt

i hope an RCD/ELCB (safety switch) was fitted also?

Paul,

Yes, that is what the switch is. Sorry, lay term for me is a 'circuit breaker switch'.

Thanks for the correction.

Why do you keep shouting ... and please stay at home with your lectures.
have fun
gmd

It's only illegal in Oz because the electricians union managed to persuade government that they needed their jobs protected.

Many countries allow people to do their own low voltage wiring (UK, NZ etc) and they're not littered with the corpses of the burned or electrocuted. Basic low voltage wiring is very simple and does not require a high level of knowledge or expertise to do safely. Given the number of stores selling cable, fixtures etc into the public arena I would have thought this was self evident.

Mike Harding

Hi Mike
I am well aware of your views/opinions on the subject of anyone being allowed to do 240v work[simple?]. You have a right to express your opinion , but the point is the performance of such work by uncertified persons is illegal in Oz
Mike said
"It's only illegal in Oz because the electricians union managed to persuade government that they needed their jobs protected."
A strange statement ,since the greatest supporters of the existing situation are the various contractors associations[Business groups. this has also been supported by govt of all colours .

Mike said" low voltage wiring is very simple and does not require a high level of knowledge or expertise to do safely"
Yet the standards ass find it necessary to regularly refine & update the regulations, how many of those you propose should be allowed to do this work are aware tthat there are specific standards coveriing caravans etc.

Mike said'Given the number of stores selling cable, fixtures etc into the public arena I would have thought this was self evident"

Mike, you & I are both aware that because something is sold it does not neccesarily make the use of such legal ie after market car components , fitting lpg to autos ,gas & plumbing fittings such work again on health & safety grounds to be only carried out by qualified gas fitters &/or plumbers.
Mike I recognize by your many posts that you do have a high level of elect knowledge ,sometimes that can lead us to think that "it is so simple any one should under stand"unfortunately this is not always true.
I will know tell you of an incident my son [ a certified electrician]came across only today.He was asked to check out a fluoro that was not working in a home which showed some evidience of home handy man elect work. On removing the fitting he was horrified to find that the frame had been connected via green earth wire to the switch wire. The frame was alive when ever the light was on.
Needless to say that house is now up for a full inspection & test
HOW would you propose such errors, potentially deadly, be avoided if any one be allowed,to do such work.

Mike, I think you would be shocked (pun intended) by the number of shody 'handyman' electrical repairs in vans. Just last week we had to rewire (12 & 240) a van that had caught on fire due to wiring faults that the owner created.

The list of stupid repairs is staggering, I've seen 12v circuit breakers used in 240v circuits, auto wires used for 240v, earth wires going nowhere (not connected), live frames, screws/nails through 3 core, earth wires connected to timber frame (my personal favorite).

Thank you gentlemen for your considered replies. I could tell you a few tales of sparkies who should never be allowed near a multimeter too but it doesn’t prove anything. I suspect we’ll just have to agree to disagree :)

Just one thought, and I do believe it’s a gaping hole in your argument: Aussies are not less capable or less intelligent than Poms, Kiwis etc so how come they can manage to do home wiring and we can’t? One of the drawbacks of being such a remote island race is that we are not exposed to other cultures and lifestyles in the way (say) European nations are and that leads us into a tendency to believe our way is the only way.

Mike Harding

mike_harding@fastmail.fm

Dumb laws for dumb people .. and they get even dumber.
Electricians throw wires across attics with little protection, they connect up 12V transformers on top of chiprock ceilings with simple cable joiners (no junction boxes).. it took Australia how long to make RCD's mandatory ?? pathetic .. and thats not because there are so many dumb people doing worse jobs.. give me a break.
I have seen so many shotty jobs by so called "electricians" in this country it's not funny. I learn for an electricians exam in an afternoon, not much to it .. is it ??

have fun
gmd