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Submitted: Friday, Oct 24, 2008 at 22:07
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Is there any ex Army or RAAF , members out there that would have any idea of what the hell this is for . the center one had a chimney coming out of it, ones laying on the ground in the top Pic, It;s located at the Fenton Airstrip Base Camp ,Each corner drum had a hole cut out so as to whatever was in it could get through to the center drum, the holes were about 200mm wide X 150mm high .
The concrete pad had something bolted down on it because the threaded studs 80mm long are sticking out of the Raised concrete section.

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Reply By: Miss(an)Jo - Toad Keeper (Bris - Friday, Oct 24, 2008 at 22:20

Friday, Oct 24, 2008 at 22:20
Nice to see they took their rubbish with them when they were finished!
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Reply By: kcandco - Friday, Oct 24, 2008 at 22:53

Friday, Oct 24, 2008 at 22:53
Hi Doug

I wonder if they are some sort of stackable camp ovens.

cheers Kc
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Follow Up By: Member - Crazy Dog (QLD) - Friday, Oct 24, 2008 at 23:13

Friday, Oct 24, 2008 at 23:13
Friendly communal dunny?

Grrr!!!
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Saturday, Oct 25, 2008 at 01:13

Saturday, Oct 25, 2008 at 01:13
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Too far from the Kitchen site,

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Reply By: stevie1947 - Friday, Oct 24, 2008 at 23:48

Friday, Oct 24, 2008 at 23:48
Hi Doug. Ex RAAFie here. I'm pretty sure that they are landing lights for night landings and takeoffs. They filled them with oil and placed them along the side of the air strip and lit them so the pilots could find the strip at night. No auto pilots in those days.
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Saturday, Oct 25, 2008 at 01:12

Saturday, Oct 25, 2008 at 01:12
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Not saying your wrong but these are 2.5 Klm from the end of the strip in the Base camp and there are only these 2 close together that I know of, I will find out and when I do I'll let you know, even if I have to contact the War Museum in Canberra,.

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Reply By: Member - DAZA (QLD) - Saturday, Oct 25, 2008 at 09:17

Saturday, Oct 25, 2008 at 09:17
Doug

Steve is correct, they were used as Night Landing Flares, the Concrete stopped the Drums from Rusting Out and Blowing Over,
they would place them on the Sides of the Strip, and at the Ends of the Strip, they would Light the Far End of the Strip not the
Approach End, and alternate when required.


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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Saturday, Oct 25, 2008 at 10:06

Saturday, Oct 25, 2008 at 10:06
Dazza
I said these drums are over 2Klm from the strip , at the Base Camp , 2 sets of 5 drums about 22 ft apart, nowhere near the airstrip as you can see in the pic .
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Saturday, Oct 25, 2008 at 10:09

Saturday, Oct 25, 2008 at 10:09
Dazza
Also the concrete is a pad a few meters away , there is no concrete in the drums, and each drum is set into the ground with what you can see above ground .
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Reply By: Member -Toonfish - Saturday, Oct 25, 2008 at 10:04

Saturday, Oct 25, 2008 at 10:04
i was going with small immersion heaters (CHOOFERS!).
BUT upon reading i agree with the others probably spares scattered around may have had a back up landing strip depending on nmbers and wind conditions i guess..

interesting hey
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Reply By: tonysmc - Saturday, Oct 25, 2008 at 10:40

Saturday, Oct 25, 2008 at 10:40
I would go with night landing flares. They still have night landing flares at Darwin airport to use if the lighting goes out (modern ones of course, not whats shown in picture) They are not along the runway, but are kept back at the terminal and they bring them out when needed. I would suggest that these "flares" were also kept back at base camp and placed along the runway only when needed. I'm pretty sure that during the war they tried to use existing roads as much as possible as runways so it was harder to spot. Leaving drums lined up would have given away their location. You could ask the Aviation museum in Darwin. They are very helpful

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Follow Up By: tonysmc - Saturday, Oct 25, 2008 at 10:48

Saturday, Oct 25, 2008 at 10:48
Heres something I cut and pasted about wartime.
Here it says each day they were collected and serviced.

Paraffin-burning ‘gooseneck’ flares were used to supplement the wartime shielded Drem runway lighting and large dustbin-like paraffin ‘money-buckets’ marked the runway threshold. Each day, these items had to be collected, serviced and then laid out and lit before night flying commenced. They were all extremely smelly and fearsome things, especially the ‘money-buckets’. These were large dustbinlike containers with a heavy lid. They were filled with paraffin and contained a large bundle of wick held in place by a ‘lobsterpot’ type cage.

To light these markers, the lids were first removed and placed inverted at each side of the runway threshold. A metal ‘shepherd’s crook’ was used to lift the paraffin-soaked wick from the bucket and place it on the upturned lid. A ‘portfire’ lit this device, which was soon a major conflagration! To extinguish the inferno, the ‘shepherd’s crook’ was again used to lift the blazing wick from the lid and place it back in the dustbin bucket full of paraffin, the lid then being placed back on top to extinguish the fiery mass.

Although these lighting aids may seem archaic today, the heat given out was such that they cleared any mist or fog around their sites and they were most successful. During the War, some fifteen Master Diversion airfields were fitted with petrol-burning “FIDO” pipes alongside the runway for a similar reason.

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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Saturday, Oct 25, 2008 at 11:29

Saturday, Oct 25, 2008 at 11:29
Tony
Have a good look at the photo's , these are set into the ground , not something you would dig up every night and cart 2.5 Klms to an Airstrip.
I have sent the photo's to the A.W.M in Canberra .

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Follow Up By: Member - joc45 (WA) - Saturday, Oct 25, 2008 at 13:48

Saturday, Oct 25, 2008 at 13:48
Yeh, Doug, I've seen them as well and was wondering what the hell they are.
As I recall they are right amongst an admin area of the old air base. Don't look like flaming dunnies to me. Or if they are, perhaps the shape was designed so that you don't sit there too long wasting valuable time :-)
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Saturday, Oct 25, 2008 at 15:52

Saturday, Oct 25, 2008 at 15:52
Gerry
Good to find someone who has actually seen them , and of course they're not dunnies, could'nt imagine sitting on that sharp edge eh, and of course like me you know they're no where near the Airstrip.
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Reply By: Off-track - Saturday, Oct 25, 2008 at 10:54

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Maybe they were flares that were relocated back near a recreation area for lighting and entertainment purposes?
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Reply By: nickoff - Saturday, Oct 25, 2008 at 12:13

Saturday, Oct 25, 2008 at 12:13
Sorry fella's,

Have to disagree with the flare idea. They look more like "flaming furie" dunnies.

The "Funnel" in the outer drums was removed, and you sat and did your business. On a regular basis, a mix of diesel and petrol was applied, the funnels inserted and the whole lot torched. The funnels created a down draught fire, as it drew air in, and the flames smoke and STINK went out up the chimmney from the centre drum.

This is the first combined unit I have seem, usually they are a single drum, funnel and chimney.

they are lots of these still visable at Truscott, on the Anjo Peninsular in the Northern Kimberley.

The concrete pad was possibly a shower block?

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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Saturday, Oct 25, 2008 at 12:38

Saturday, Oct 25, 2008 at 12:38
Sounds more plausible to me. You get my vote.

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Follow Up By: Member - Redbakk (WA) - Saturday, Oct 25, 2008 at 19:18

Saturday, Oct 25, 2008 at 19:18
LOL Gramps..... : )
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Follow Up By: Member - Redbakk (WA) - Saturday, Oct 25, 2008 at 19:20

Saturday, Oct 25, 2008 at 19:20
They look uncomfortable to sit on too... : )
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Saturday, Oct 25, 2008 at 19:35

Saturday, Oct 25, 2008 at 19:35
LOL it looks like the Whoopee cushions have deteriorated over time then.

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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Saturday, Oct 25, 2008 at 19:39

Saturday, Oct 25, 2008 at 19:39
Maybe they had a tent or tin structure (Now gone) over the top with some sort of floor/seat arrangement over the top to sit on??

Just a guess, interesting set of photos (I love guessing games) would be good to get a definitive answer Doug.
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Saturday, Oct 25, 2008 at 19:43

Saturday, Oct 25, 2008 at 19:43
Also meant to add.

They had to be placed for specific reason as they appear to have been laid out very neat and even, not a random placement.

They don't build drums like that anymore, buried in the ground and they still look to have held up really well after 60 odd years.
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Reply By: Gramps (NSW) - Saturday, Nov 01, 2008 at 18:37

Saturday, Nov 01, 2008 at 18:37
Doug,

Any solution to the mystery ?

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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Saturday, Nov 01, 2008 at 19:26

Saturday, Nov 01, 2008 at 19:26
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No not yet, still waiting to hear from AWM in Canberra,
Some seem to think toilet, why would they have a toilet there when they had the usual Latrine blocks.

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