Heating Oil
Submitted: Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 16:22
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Can anyone tell me if heating oil can be used to run a diesel engine or what organisation can contact to test a sample and advise?
Thanks
Reply By: howesy - Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 16:49
Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 16:49
The only side affect i can think of is total engine failure and disintegration.
has a different flash point and burn rate so you need to have some adjustments/alterations made to run it efficiently and safely, just as is done to run cooking oil.
Some one else may have more knowledge on this matter but I wouldnt be doing it without 1st seeking professional advice.
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Reply By: ob - Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 16:54
Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 16:54
Hi Turist
Firstly I am not in anyway setting myself as an expert on these matters but I know from personal experience that the armed forces of USA and Australia run diesel vehicles on a fuel called JP8. Apparently this stuff is basically aviation kerosene with a few nasties added to give more bang for your buck. Heating oil used to be some time ago kero with a percentage of diesel added. As I said I dont profess to be an expert so dont try it on your vehicle on my say so.
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Reply By: Member - 1/2A - Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 17:32
Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 17:32
Many years ago I worked for Ansett and they ran their ground power units on jet fuel(Jet A1) for many years, but the engines were Detroit diesel engines and not anything like the modern diesel engine we have today. I do know that heating fuel contains more sulphur than diesel.
Sulphur in diesel
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Reply By: Saharaman (aka Geepeem) - Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 17:51
Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 17:51
When Rudolf Diesel first invented the diesel engine distillate as we know it today did not exist. He did all his testing using peanut oil.
But the COR diesel has come along way since Rudolfs first model. So it depends I think on what type of diesel you are talking about - if it a is modern COR diesel I would not risk it. If its an old single cylinder stationary diesel pump engine then maybe its OK.
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GPM
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Reply By: Member - Kevin J (QLD) - Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 18:08
Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 18:08
From memory heating oil as we know it in Australia is a blend of 5% Fuel Oil (heavy black ) and 95% lighting (home) kerosene which in it's cleanest form is Jet A1 aircraft fuel.
The percentages may be incorrect but the blend is certainly not a fuel which I would recommend for our current run of diesel engines.
Kevin J
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Reply By: Member - barry F (NSW) - Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 19:29
Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 19:29
probabley a silly question, but why do you want to?
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 19:46
Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 19:46
Dont know about here but several years ago in NZ the Taxi company I worked for had a diesel heater in the offices.
They changed over to electric heating and I bought the 2,000 litres that were left in the
tank for the then price of 25c a litre (1/2 price)
I was running a Datsun Bluebird 2.0 litre diesel and it would still be running on it if an idiot hadnt driven through the side of it one saturday night. LOL
It depends on what the heating oil actually is. Some heaters just run straight car diesel some use different stuff.
Probaly can tell what it is if you sight a receipt for a delivery.
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Reply By: Nomadic Navara - Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 23:10
Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 23:10
Back in the 60s when Pioneer Coaches were running those tour buses with the rounded back ends and large 4 cylinder GM diesels, some of them were run on power kero (which is like heating oil.) The motors in the kero buses differed in that they had different injectors in them. My neighbour (who maintained them at
Cooma) gave me a full description of the differences but the years have faded my memory.
PeterD
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Friday, Oct 31, 2008 at 09:40
Friday, Oct 31, 2008 at 09:40
It does depend a bit on your type of diesel Turist, I would not run it in say a 3lt patrol or later cruiser 100 series but If its like the 80 series, or 4.2patrol i.e. not to modern with a little pre-combustion chamber then its usually quite ok to run it as a blend.
Old (filtered) non-synthetic engine oil can also be blended in.
Suggest you do a trial run though with a small amount - friends of
mine run a 50% blend often, but I would start with less (25%)
I know in there case they began with just putting a few liters in a mostly full
tank and added more when no significant performance drop occurred.
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Reply By: Member - DOZER- Friday, Oct 31, 2008 at 20:31
Friday, Oct 31, 2008 at 20:31
I remember reading somewhere that Alpine diesel is a mix of heating oil and diesel...because it has less cetane than diesel, u use more....but for $0.25 a litre, i would use it mixed 3/1 with diesel. Chances are you do already, and just dont know it :(
Andrew
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