Great Central Road Feedback

Just did this trek and road was in generally good conditions all the way across.....that is, for a sandy/dirt track. As mentioned there are some sections where the corrugations can get quite bad but I averaged 90 kph and varied speed according to the corrugations. The section from the WA/NT boarder to the Ulgas was probably the worst section at the moment. Diesel fuel was available at all stops OPEL was available for all but one stop along the route so it pays to stop a top up as you go. No one asked to see the access permits. Traffic was very light - saw 20 cars going the other way in the two days we took to do the trek. Be careful overtaking in NT as the dust can cut visibility a lot. Passed two big buses and one was towing some camels...so I think a 17' van should be fine. Also passed several everyday caravans. Only the locals drive 2wd - I would not recommend anything smaller than a falcon or commodore and no low profile tyres and nothing new. A good way to go if you are after a different route across Australia. The void of nothingness is what makes the trip interesting. No Roo's seen on the trek except at each end and then they are only small (probably due to lack of water in area).
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Reply By: Member - Fred G (NSW) - Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 19:35

Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 19:35
Thanks MLCV...we are keeping a close eye on all feedback on the GCR, as we are heading to the west for a Navy reunion in 2010, and want to either go or come back that way, with a 17 ft van, from the east coast. Thats a wonderfull lot of information there. Thanks mate.
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony B (QLD) - Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 19:51

Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 19:51
Fred. Its a well kept highway as far as outback roads go, so you will have no troubles :-). Cheers Tony
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Follow Up By: Member - Fred G (NSW) - Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 20:02

Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 20:02
Thanks Tony.
I'm one for driving to the conditions and all sounds promising. I am tempted to incorporate the Tanami on that trip in a sort of figure 8 route, so that we can also take in Parraburdoo where our daughter was born in 1973, and Mt. Doreen Stn (now abandoned) on the Tanami, where I lived in the 1950's but may at a later time for that one :-))

Cheers Fred.
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Follow Up By: Member - Fred G (NSW) - Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 20:02

Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 20:02
Thanks Tony.
I'm one for driving to the conditions and all sounds promising. I am tempted to incorporate the Tanami on that trip in a sort of figure 8 route, so that we can also take in Parraburdoo where our daughter was born in 1973, and Mt. Doreen Stn (now abandoned) on the Tanami, where I lived in the 1950's but may at a later time for that one :-))

Cheers Fred.
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 20:27

Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 20:27
Fred - why not loop back via the Gary Junction instead of the Tanami? From all reports it suffers less corrugations due to less traffic and is a good drive. Yet to do it ourselves.

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Follow Up By: Member - Fred G (NSW) - Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 20:50

Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 20:50
I shall look at that option Motherhen. I very much want to re visit Mt. Doreen or what is left of it, and that may mean a trip from from Alice and back. I am also keen to see how much Yuendemu has changed over the years, 50 years in fact. I know you were out there recently...any feedback? LOL
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 22:03

Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 22:03
Hi Fred

I can't say if Yuendumu has changed. Apart from what looked like a big new sporting complex, it was just a messy community like the other messy ones we saw in the desert regions. We went in and purchased fuel from a primitive outlet which was hard to find. Rabbit Flats was closed when we went through, and we had enough fuel to get to Tilmouth but didn't want to risk running short. It was however 1 cent cheaper than at the Tilmouth Well servo.

We didn't find the Mt Doreen ruins at all, but didn't know what to look for. There weren't any obvious tracks off the road in the area is was expecting it to be.

It would certainly be a lot shorter to go and see what you want around Yuendumu (it's not far on the scale of distances you are travelling) then go back to the Gary Junction turnoff than go all the way north on the Tanami and have to take the long way round to Paraburdoo. Even the CSR can hardly be considered a real short cut, and you will be travelling with your van. You could leave the van at Tilmouth RH.

Road conditions out there will have changed many many times between now and 2010.

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Follow Up By: Graham & Ann - Sunday, Nov 02, 2008 at 21:18

Sunday, Nov 02, 2008 at 21:18
Fred
We camped near the old Mt Doreen ruins when we passed thru on our way to the Kimberley in 2005. Not much left, but bring back some memories for you no doubt. The Tanami is no where near aqs interesting drive as the GCRd. so you'd not need to allow as much time to travel it as the GCRd. Get good up to date Hema map of the CGRd area, lots to see and on this trip, a very scenic outback road overall, we did it in 2007 see a bit of info here may help WA trip via Great Central Rd. and some photos of the trip here WA Trip Albums
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Follow Up By: Member - Fred G (NSW) - Monday, Nov 03, 2008 at 06:02

Monday, Nov 03, 2008 at 06:02
Thanks for that Graham & Ann. I'll have a look at all of that.
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Reply By: Holden4th - Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 19:55

Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 19:55
Did the GCR in June 07 from the Perth end and thoroughly enjoyed the journey. It is a very interesting stretch of road and not too hard to traverse. Roos are not a problem but larger livestock certainly are. I've got pix from the trip showing both camels and cattle on the road who don't move when they hear you in the distance. They stop and face what they hear coming - not good when you're cresting a rise. As I'm not a member of EO I can't post them. The camels took quite a bit of coaxing (read aggression) to get them off the road.

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Follow Up By: Member - Fred G (NSW) - Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 20:04

Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 20:04
Holden4th you are welcome to send any photos to goerke@bigpond.net.au

Cheers from Fred.
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 22:05

Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 22:05
Those camels certainly know they own the road!

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Reply By: Member - joc45 (WA) - Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 20:26

Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 20:26
I concur with the above.
Travelled thru there in mid-August, no problems. Cruised at an easy relaxing 90km/h, was in no real hurry. Was passed by someone doing about 120, so the road is pretty good. Got a bit sandy on the NT side thru to the Olgas, with some soft sandy ruts which made speed a bit dicey (vehicle tended to pull one way or the other). Looks like the WA side is pretty well maintained, and on a good wide formed base. The NT side doesn't seem to have a formed base.
It's a pity that one can't venture off the road, as there are some really magic ranges around Giles and the border. Out of bounds tho without a special permit.
Re fuel, I carried a couple of jerries and filled at Laverton and then Yulara. All the fuel stops have cut-off times for serving fuel, and charge a hefty fee for opening after hours. Fuel at Laverton was about the same price as Leonora.
Cabins are avail at Tjukayirla and Giles (we used them coz it was freezing and it saved pitching the tent) Both were $60 for a twin room - the ones at Tjukayirla were very clean and new, Giles were ok, but a bit tired. Giles had a good kitchen, with TV and both places had quite reasonable shower blocks. Can't comment on Warburton.
If you don't want to spend time (and lots of money) in Yulara, then Curtin Springs east of Yulara has free camping, pay showers and good pub meals.
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Follow Up By: Member - Fred G (NSW) - Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 20:45

Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 20:45
Thannks Gerry for some very in depth feedback. Much appreciated.

Fred.
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Reply By: Motherhen - Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 20:29

Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 20:29
Goes to show how quickly conditions changed. The WA/NT border to Kata Tjuta was freshly graded when we went through.

We saw lots and lots of camels on the WA side.

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Reply By: Wayne's 60 - Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 22:07

Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 22:07
Hi MLCV,
as indicated in post 62897 there are parts of the GCR that can be travelled at speed and others that cannot.
There were two road crews on the GCR, one working on the road up-grade between Yulara and Docker River and the other working from Warrakurna to Docker River.
In the replies todate there is no indication of vehicle types or towing/not towing, to add valid information to the post.
Travel speed to the conditions and to your capabilites and that of your vehicle.

Cheers,
Wayne & Sally.

PS NOT happy that we are home and NOT travelling, otherwise a very interesting trip and one we will do again.

W&S.
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