Posting coordinates

Submitted: Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 21:10
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It would be great if all coordinates posted were like" 22°13'21.85"S, 121°49'16.14"E which can be copied and pasted straight into Google Maps / Earth which are very unforgiving. The slightest error on the dd.mm.ss format leads to all sorts of errors and confusion. d{>_<}b
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 21:23

Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 21:23
Hi Helping

We find it much better if coordinates are in UTM which is a 7 number readout direct in meters.

Very handy for all sorts of quick calcs
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 21:54

Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 21:54
I need to learn how UTM works I think it'd be better than DMS that I use, just need to nut it out
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 21:55

Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 21:55
You aren't planning on going to the Pyrenees are you Robin?
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Follow Up By: helping - Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 22:12

Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 22:12
Is "We' as in "We find it much better" the military, aviation and Google Earth/ Maps? How about a conversion facility on ExploreOz that changes formats such asthis d{>_<}b
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 22:33

Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 22:33
a bit more than 7 numbers Robin ;-)

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Follow Up By: x4by4 - Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 23:23

Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 23:23
Robin,
The only problem I have with the UTM coordinates is that nobody tells you the CM or zone that was used.
If they mention a town nearby I can suss it out, otherwise it could be in WA, SA or western Vic.
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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Friday, Oct 31, 2008 at 08:21

Friday, Oct 31, 2008 at 08:21
Hi Guys

Its a pretty fair comment that some don't tell you the zone your in and its a pain, I also imagine that this is more of an issue in some states than others.

Here in victoria , almost all the maps use UTM , including many people are not aware of such as the state vicroads country directory and most of our good areas are covered by rooftops maps which are beautifully done with utm co-ords which fit perfectly with 1km square grids.

Because UTM reads out in meters , its just so much easier and more meaningful to watch a gps co-ord counting down to zero as you drive toward it.

We have had several situations already this year in which we have had to do diversions or cut across country and the ability to look at a co-ord and quickly estimate a distance has been priceless.

Hi Bonz
Am hoping to make Pyrennes , taken many nights to build a double bed framework inside the Patrol to test out feasibility of sleeping in car - but last night actually got to lay on bed in car so we should be in position to test it even though all the ancilary bits won't be done.










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Follow Up By: helping - Saturday, Nov 01, 2008 at 12:58

Saturday, Nov 01, 2008 at 12:58
I posted this thread with the aim that people would post coordinates in a format that was easily copied and pasted into Google Earth / Maps. Before the hand held device it was hh.mm.ss.ss. The Army played with Grid then the hand-held allowed the +'s and -'s and decimals of degrees to enough decimal places to be as accurate as hh.mm.ss.ss.

I guess that the 4WD type communities are relatively small in the overall scheme of finding places using Google Earth / Map.

Whatever the format and whether people like meters or furlongs to go or whatever is up to the device in their vehicle.

My wish is to have formats posted on this forum that is easily copied and pasted to Google Earth/ Maps.... d{>_<}b
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Saturday, Nov 01, 2008 at 13:17

Saturday, Nov 01, 2008 at 13:17
Two points that are 6 degrees apart (approx 600km) will have exactly the same UTM 13-digit co-ordinates.

You have to state the UTM zone (2 digits) as well as the Easting (6 digits) and Northing (7 digits) to make it useful.
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Follow Up By: equinox - Saturday, Nov 01, 2008 at 13:27

Saturday, Nov 01, 2008 at 13:27
Zones in Australia:





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Reply By: Member - 1/2A - Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 21:25

Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 21:25
Try this link
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Follow Up By: helping - Sunday, Nov 02, 2008 at 13:59

Sunday, Nov 02, 2008 at 13:59
http://boulter.com/gps/ is excellent 1/2A. 10/10 and thanks. All can be copied and pasted straight into Google Earth/ Maps except UTM which I think the Army use.
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Reply By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 21:48

Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 21:48
Hey look, if you put helping's co-ordinate's into 1/2A's website you end up in Algeria!



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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 22:04

Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 22:04
I added his co-ords to GE and ended up here
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Follow Up By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 22:07

Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 22:07
Wow, that's weird.

How about we split the difference and call it the middle of the Atlantic?

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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 22:09

Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 22:09
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Follow Up By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 22:26

Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 22:26
You know Doug, I could say "What was I thinking?"

But really, there was no thinking involved in that one!

Thanks for the hint!

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Follow Up By: Boobook2 - Friday, Oct 31, 2008 at 06:51

Friday, Oct 31, 2008 at 06:51
How can 22 degrees South and 121 degrees East be anywhere near Northern Africa?
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Follow Up By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Friday, Oct 31, 2008 at 08:24

Friday, Oct 31, 2008 at 08:24
That's the million dollar question isn't it?

Best ask the website that resolved the co-ordinates!

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Follow Up By: geocacher (djcache) - Friday, Oct 31, 2008 at 11:35

Friday, Oct 31, 2008 at 11:35
I don't think he said anything about south & east. Many websites default to N & W or sometimes N & E and if you want anywhere else you have to tell it.

Sticking an S & E before the respective lat & lon will change the result.

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Follow Up By: geocacher (djcache) - Friday, Oct 31, 2008 at 11:36

Friday, Oct 31, 2008 at 11:36
Oops. Didn't notice. He did but he put it after the coords not before.

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Reply By: x4by4 - Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 23:13

Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 23:13
Helping,
Google earth / map will also accept Deg.degrees format which the exploroz place files have. They can be copied into Google but you need to remove the degree symbols and the leading minus symbol.
eg. from ExplorOz Places - Gorges
Adcock Gorge WA Position: -16.9259º S 125.7788º E (GDA94)
Enter 16.9259 S, 125.7788 E

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Follow Up By: helping - Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 23:37

Thursday, Oct 30, 2008 at 23:37
Understood and thanks Peter B. To add "S" as the hemisphere then take away the minus sign is tedious and could be confusing. The random coordinates as an example which was taken from another post at ExploreOz has found both Western Australia and the Sahara in this thread. It would just be great to copy and paste contributor's coordinates straight into Google Earrh / Maps and Bob's-your-Uncle:- you're there.
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Follow Up By: Rossc0 - Friday, Oct 31, 2008 at 11:38

Friday, Oct 31, 2008 at 11:38
There is no minus sign in places and the coords are in both Deg.deg and D.M.S

You can see the google satellite photos in places as well, so unless you are making a .kmz file there is probably no need to enter them into google earth anyway.

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Reply By: Member - Mick O (VIC) - Saturday, Nov 01, 2008 at 12:06

Saturday, Nov 01, 2008 at 12:06
I believe the co-ordinates are for where we set up the base camp on one of the exploration trips into the Rudall River this year.

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The range of hills with the moon above them is the range at which the coordinates sit on the base of. The "creek" photo is one of the pseudo track that appears on the GE image just to the above left of the coordinates.

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