80 lt waeco
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Member - BUNDY BOY (WA)
Morning all...........just a wonder in a GQ with draw system and cargo barrier ...will a 80lt Waco fridge fit on the slider top of the draws............may seem a silly Q but the fridge looks al full big...and drawing current ....compared 40lt Engel
Bundy
Reply By: Member - RFLundgren (WA) - Saturday, Nov 01, 2008 at 10:47
Saturday, Nov 01, 2008 at 10:47
Bundy
You might be lucky. I have a 90 lt Waeco in the GU. Slide mounted on top of outback drawers and I cant get my cargo barrier in. Misses by about 2 inches or so if I recall.
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Reply By: Paul Grabonski. Vic - Saturday, Nov 01, 2008 at 11:04
Saturday, Nov 01, 2008 at 11:04
Perhaps you should consider how you will power the 80L Waeco when stopped. 84A in 24 hour period according to Waeco power specs. That is one hell of a lot of juice per day if away from powered site.
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Follow Up By: Boobook2 - Saturday, Nov 01, 2008 at 12:56
Saturday, Nov 01, 2008 at 12:56
Agreed, a Waeco 80l will drain a 100AH battery to about 50% in 12 hours. Ouch. If you stretch it to 24 hours your batteries won't last very long. PLUS people complain of the fridge never getting cold enough. Other Waeco's are ok but research gettting a 80 carefully.
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Follow Up By: Best Off Road - Saturday, Nov 01, 2008 at 13:33
Saturday, Nov 01, 2008 at 13:33
I've owned an 80 for 4 years.
In mild to warm weather it uses 50 to 60 amps per 24 hours (this is not a guess, I have worked it out). This is running it as a Fridge and Freezer, it will use less as all Fridge.
In stinking hot weather 40+ it can use over 100.
Fridge bag is a MUST, it reduces power usage significantly.
As for staying cold; never a problem. Even in 40+ without a bag, it had no problem staying cold ie -18 in the freezer and +4 in the warmest part of the fridge.
Jim.
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Follow Up By: Boobook2 - Saturday, Nov 01, 2008 at 19:42
Saturday, Nov 01, 2008 at 19:42
Jim your tests seem pretty consistent with Waeco's published use.
http://www.waeco.co.uk/page.aspx?page=powercon&s=4
84 AH per 24 Hours at 30 degrees ambient.
That is a lot. An average of 3.5A and means you really should have 170AH of batteries to last 24 hours without damaging them.
As a comparison a 50l Waeco will use about 24 AH according to Waeco, I measured about 30. I am pretty happy ith that.
My 74l National Luna Averages about 1.3A or about 32- 34 AH over 24 Hours as a freezer and a fridge mode that's 60% less power use than the CF80. I did a lot of research and that is exactly the reason I chose the National Luna over the CF80. Not even $1000 of solar panels would make up the difference for extended periods.
The Waeco tests don'say mention a bag but you are right, my bag helps my CF50.
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Follow Up By: Best Off Road - Saturday, Nov 01, 2008 at 20:29
Saturday, Nov 01, 2008 at 20:29
Boo,
At 30 max during the day I would suggest 65 amps per 24 hours by my extensive usage.
I get by with a 100 amp AGM,a 64 watt US Solar Panel and gennie. Typically we arrive with a full battery. On the first morning the panel goes out for the day and runs the fridge all day and puts back a little that has been lost overnight. At about 6pm the gennie goes on (attached to a 17 amp charger) and can run for between 1 and 3 hours (averages 2) depending on how much sun there has been during the day and how often I move the panel.
So, in essence, about 30 amps during the day from the panel and 30 at night from the gennie.
But I must stress, I run the fridge very bloody cold. I like my beer/cider at negative 3. If I don't rotate the stubbies I often end up with the odd frozen one.
Anyway at $980 for a monster fridge, I'm a very happy camper.
Jim.
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Reply By: Best Off Road - Saturday, Nov 01, 2008 at 11:58
Saturday, Nov 01, 2008 at 11:58
OK, here's how you check. The 80 is 455mm high plus allow another 45 or so for the fridge slide. You take a square, run it along the drawers until it hits the cargo barrier at a height of 500.
Measure from this point to the rear of the drawers. The 80 is 940 long with the handles or 790 without. I don't think you've got a hope in hell with the handles on, but without, maybe.
Cheers,
Jim.
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Saturday, Nov 01, 2008 at 12:14
Saturday, Nov 01, 2008 at 12:14
I agree....
If the fridge is going to be a permanent fixture in the GQ (ie: not be taken out whenever you're not on a trip), then I'd suggest ditching the handles. You might be able to use the 4 screw holes in the front of the fridge to mount a drop down handle of same sort, just so you can pull the fridge out on the slide.
Another alternative (not so good IMHO), would be to modify the cargo barrier so that the fridge was able to go through towards the rear
seat. This may seem to be defeating the purpose of having a cargo barrier, but if the fridge is VERY
WELL SECURED and cannot possibly come loose in an accident (and take your head off etc), then I don't see that it would be a problem. Nothing else in the back would be able to get past the fridge when it is locked down.
Cheers
Roachie
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Reply By: Member - Barney Rubble - Saturday, Nov 01, 2008 at 22:00
Saturday, Nov 01, 2008 at 22:00
Gday bundy yep no worrys the 80 lt waeco fittted no worrys in my gq draws fitted outback roller draws fitted no cargo barrier but quite sure it was no worrys anyhow
its now alittle tight in the gu but still fits ok
current draw is an issue but ive found if you cool it down on 240v before ya go and turn it down at night ive not had an issue
Cheers barney
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Reply By: patrolmann - Sunday, Nov 02, 2008 at 00:29
Sunday, Nov 02, 2008 at 00:29
Hi buddy boy
i have a GQ and an 80 litre waeco.
Mine fits long ways in the back with room to open the lid just. I don't have draws but i can get it in and open the lid all the way. I have a dual battery and i run it as a fridge freezer and have never flattened the battery yet. But i drive every day so it recharges.
cheers
patrolman
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Reply By: Sea-Dog - Monday, Nov 03, 2008 at 10:38
Monday, Nov 03, 2008 at 10:38
I have a CF80 that I run in my 80 series with a supercharge alrounder 105A/hr aux battery...
I don't know where the power usage figures come from on these posts because
mine uses nowhere near that amount of current draw.. maybe if it was running 24/7 without cycling it would draw that much juice but I can easily run
mine for 3 days without any dramas and without running the engine to recharge the battery.. mind you I normally do run the engine for about 30 mins a day at least to put a quick charge to the battery anyway.... never had any real dramas with doing that..
As for will it fit.. as the GQ has
barn style doors the fridge on top of the side by side drawers will fit and when it slides out the lid will clear the roof ok.. only problem is that you will need a step ladder to see into the thing... I built my draws on top of each other on one side and the fridge down lower on the other.. works a treat!
What a lot of people don't realise, and it doesn't apply to your car, is that when you have the GXL cruiser style doors that open upwards the lid of your fridge will not open fully.. that in itself may not pose that much of a problem other that having to fill the fridge one item at a time rather than filling the basket first and then putting the entire basket in the fridge.. what the main problem is that you can't get the basket out at all for cleaning etc.
A little forward planning goes a long way.. sounds like you are on the right track.
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Reply By: Member - Robert G (WA) - Wednesday, Nov 05, 2008 at 20:34
Wednesday, Nov 05, 2008 at 20:34
I ran my 80ltr waeco on a recent trip to DHI and never took it out of my vehicle for the whole time and never had any issues. I turned the temp right down each night (otherwies it would freeze) and carnked it to full each day. I had removed one of the fridge freezer dividers as I find the fridge side very inefficient with both fitted. I am running 3 batteries (1 x 80amp, 1 x 100amp, 1 x 35amp) and drove the vehicle most days probably with an hour or 3 running time each day at low speeds. The batteries certainly got low but I don't recall any time where the beer was cold or the fridge stopped.
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